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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamz12

I thought post-partem depression happens becuase of sleepless ness as you need to feed the baby every 2hrs or less and also because of fatigue. My sister-in-law had suffered this as neither her parents or my parents could travel to US that time and I took 3 weeks leave to stay with her to help. Your post made me google for more. In the article there is one important point thou "This depression does not stop the mother from caring".
Tapasya is callous and thats how she is projected and thats how we viewers have to interpret.
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Thank you for the link 😊 very helpful 😊 And very well written 👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Invincible_



@ bold red
i agree dat sumtimes dere r rare cases where we can see such disconnection towards baby by mom but in dose cases mother totally is under depression and dere is complete social withdrawal,.. in addition dere is sadness, fatigue, changes in sleeping and eating patterns, reduced libido, crying episodes, anxiety, and irritability.

but tapu isnt showing any other symptom ...infact she is alwz dressed up properly as if she has to go to party...she is totally lost in thoughts of how to get her husband's attention,again plotting and trying to use her own flesh and blood as a thing to get her hubby's love...

u urself said dat dey show guilt and shame...but dere isnt even a flicker of such emotions on tapu's face...even now she is busy wid valuing her and baby's importance to veer in comparison to iccha

so its just her selfish nature which is making her unable to connect to baby...not d post partum depression...



Thanks Poojz for sharing your thoughts. For a moment I could've been wrong since I haven't yet been blessed with the gift of Motherhood, but you being a mom sharing your views is much appreciated 😊 and the way you put it 👏The word 'Mother' has its essence intact, even in today's fast life; credits, to woman like you 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great post Sonali and very good discussions going on here about post -partem depression and Tapasya's case in particular. Well, we have to remember that in this show what place Medical Sciences and for that matter, any Science and Reasoning and Logic have... 😉😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: hermione8


Great post Sonali and very good discussions going on here about post -partem depression and Tapasya's case in particular. Well, we have to remember that in this show what place Medical Sciences and for that matter, any Science and Reasoning and Logic have... 😉😆



Absolutely right...these are the symptoms( sourced from the internet) generally but in UT they have a slightly different connotation and this is purely my reasoning.😉😉

Symptoms include
sadness - Ichcha leaving has caused Tapasya so much pain and sadness😉
fatigue - It must be tiring to keep chasing Veer or avoiding Rathod...
changes in sleeping and eating patterns - Naturally she is waiting for Veer to feed her and sing her a lullaby😉
reduced libido - Both Veer and Rathod keep running away 😆😆😆
crying episodes - This way she misses hearing her child cry.😭😭
anxiety - When will Veer come back to her now that Ichcha has gone??😍
irritability- That is her trademark and cannot be attributed to pp blues

There are many more symptoms but these are enough to understand poor Tapasya's position😉

No offense meant to the cv's but I think showing Tapasya deep in thought while the baby was howling her head off...is not going to get sympathy from us mothers.....even in a fictional story😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali_dg



@ Bold--I fail to understand your point 😕 How can a mother not connect with her Baby?? Unless its those exclusive cases I have highlighted who are still in denial that from being a wife they have become mother's (getting counted in 'Aunty' category) I don't believe any woman can say that!

Even if its so, in an extremely hypothetical situation, that they cannot connect mentally (which is impossible, even animals do fully connect the minute their children are born) but physically, a mother has to constantly keep nursing the child and coincidentally the baby is also hungry during the same time when the mother needs to nurse, else it cause severe clumps pain which is impossible to tolerate.

In Tapasya's case - ok she couldn't connect mentally, but what about it when she was hearing her Baby cry sooo loudly that Nani from else where came running! She being a couple of foot steps away didn't hear/ didnt WANT to hear! 👎🏼 Secondly, while she saw Nani pacifying the child.. a normal mother who would have witnessed it, would have snatched the baby from whosoever and hugged it. A single touch of a mother is enough to pacify a Baby!



I would **not** draw analogies from animal kingdom about mothers connecting with babies. There are some animals who eat their young and there are some animals who abandon their young as soon as they are born. so its not an apples to oranges comparison.

I am not commenting on Tappu's character. I am commenting on the assumption that a new mother immediately connects with her baby. It is not that simple. motherhood is a very complex process. Besides, many new mothers are tired after long labor and would appreciate any help they can get minding the babies and not necessarily run to snatch the baby back.

As far as nursing goes, very often babies fail to latch to mothers, or mothers dont generate enough milk to feed the babies.

I would not generalize or go further into the experience of motherhood, but suffice it say that motherhood is a very unique experience for each woman. What worked for one mother does not work for another. What one new mother feels is not necessarily what other mothers feel. The social stigma and society's judgment on new mothers is so harsh that a big population of the world does not even want to acknowledge the serious and very palpable threat of post partem depression that often leads to suicidal thoughts.

disclaimer - these are not applicable to tappu, i am just commenting that the generic societal expectation of instantaneous motherly feelings from a new mother are highly misplaced.


Edited by serialjunkie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: dreamz12

I thought post-partem depression happens becuase of sleepless ness as you need to feed the baby every 2hrs or less and also because of fatigue. My sister-in-law had suffered this as neither her parents or my parents could travel to US that time and I took 3 weeks leave to stay with her to help. Your post made me google for more. In the article there is one important point thou "This depression does not stop the mother from caring".
Tapasya is callous and thats how she is projected and thats how we viewers have to interpret.
for interested folks:



@ Red

Read the very article you posted carefully. go to the link above and click under the section
When to seek Medical Care

Read the following excerpt from the link. It does affect the mother's ability to care for the new born child.

When to Seek Medical Care

Call your health care provider in any of the following situations:
  • When you have mood swings or feel depressed for more than a few days after the birth of your baby
  • When you feel you are unable to cope with the daily activities in your life, including caring for your newborn or your other children
  • When you have strong feelings of depression or anger 1-2 months after childbirth
Call a neighbor, friend, or loved one who is nearby AND 911 right away if you are experiencing any of the following:
  • Inability to sleep more than 2 hours per night

  • Thoughts of hurting or killing yourself
  • Thoughts of hurting your baby or other children
  • Hearing voices or seeing things
  • Thoughts that your baby is evil
Under the same link - you will see the seciton where it talks about new mothers needing to seek all the help they can from other members of the family:-

Self-Care at Home

  • Surround yourself with supportive family members and friends, and ask for their help in caring for the baby.

  • Take care of yourself. Get as much rest as you can. Nap when the baby naps.

  • Try not to spend much time alone.

  • Spend some time alone with your husband or partner.

  • Take a shower and get dressed every day.

  • Get out of the house. Take a walk, see a friend, do something you enjoy. Get someone to take care of the baby if you can; if you can't, take the baby with you.

  • Don't expect too much from yourself. Don't worry too much about the housework. Ask friends and family for help.

  • Talk to other mothers. You can learn from each other, and their experiences can be reassuring.

  • If the depression persists for longer than 2 weeks or is very deep, talk to your health care provider. Self-care alone is not recommended.

Edited by serialjunkie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: serialjunkie



@ Red

Read the very article you posted carefully. go to the link above and click under the section
When to seek Medical Care

Read the following excerpt from the link. It does affect the mother's ability to care for the new born child.

When to Seek Medical Care

Call your health care provider in any of the following situations:
  • When you have mood swings or feel depressed for more than a few days after the birth of your baby
  • When you feel you are unable to cope with the daily activities in your life, including caring for your newborn or your other children
  • When you have strong feelings of depression or anger 1-2 months after childbirth
Call a neighbor, friend, or loved one who is nearby AND 911 right away if you are experiencing any of the following:
  • Inability to sleep more than 2 hours per night

  • Thoughts of hurting or killing yourself
  • Thoughts of hurting your baby or other children
  • Hearing voices or seeing things
  • Thoughts that your baby is evil
Under the same link - you will see the seciton where it talks about new mothers needing to seek all the help they can from other members of the family:-

Self-Care at Home

  • Surround yourself with supportive family members and friends, and ask for their help in caring for the baby.

  • Take care of yourself. Get as much rest as you can. Nap when the baby naps.

  • Try not to spend much time alone.

  • Spend some time alone with your husband or partner.

  • Take a shower and get dressed every day.

  • Get out of the house. Take a walk, see a friend, do something you enjoy. Get someone to take care of the baby if you can; if you can't, take the baby with you.

  • Don't expect too much from yourself. Don't worry too much about the housework. Ask friends and family for help.

  • Talk to other mothers. You can learn from each other, and their experiences can be reassuring.

  • If the depression persists for longer than 2 weeks or is very deep, talk to your health care provider. Self-care alone is not recommended.



Good work😊...I have a feeling the CV's are going to jump on this research.😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Actually if we look closely Tapu never really cared 4 her baby even during pregnancy. For her baby was only a handy tool to make Veer come near to her 👎🏼
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Earlier we were hearing the first kick of child make a mother change and feel for her unborn child, but even Tapu child started kicking since 3 months 😉 she used all these kicking for her benefits. 😆 thn we heard tht after the birth Tapu will connect with child, but again child is crying and Tapu bitiya is busy in connecting herself with Pappu 😆 Now again she need time to connect with the child gradually. I cant understand which SERVER Tapu bitiya use Jo connect hi nahin ho raha 😆 😆 Sid, Rathore, Mehra and Pappu ke sath to quickly connect ho jata hai, here with child even after 1 yrs elephantery pregnancy she cd not connect herself 😆 😆 😆 may be she need to change the SERVER. I can suggest two SERVER one is in AGRA. and another one is in RANCHI (KANKE), they work very fine to make connection fast 😉 😆 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good post Sonali...👏👏

i m out of station, was justing checking out the updates from my mobile.. i could hardly resist myself from commenting on the topic since i myself is a mother of 6month old.. 😊😊
i dont have much scientific knowledge of post partum depression and other terms linked to the same..
for me my child comes first.. i couldn't stop myself from picking him up and consoling if he cries out even for a second.. 😊 ...
but Taps..😳 she is an exceptional case... 😡😡 .. psychic.😳.disgusting...😡

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