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Posted: 14 years ago
old ichcha matha used to be more dumb as new ichamatha is little less dumb thats all, she should grow stronger n stronger to face all these lady devils....taps mai nani n chanda🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ankit111

i m not big time Ichha fan but i like in her the basic value of a ideal daughter, wife, friend and most importantly human being. we hv seen a drastic change in Ichha to better side after the marriage. but the basic value inside her remain same. my most concern was her over sacrificing nature. sacrificing is not a bad quality, but whn someother person is effected by this thn its not acceptable as it was case whn she sacrifices Veer for Tapu. thts why i never supported her this type of sacrifices.

Old Ichha was a dump, who untentionally did harm to her nearer person for the sake of a devil friend. now the new Ichha hs become more practical. she still thinks abt others happiness but now more practical way. after marriage i hv not find any fualt in her behaviour. if there was old Ichha, first of all she wd not hv married with Veer, thn after Mai objection she wd hv leave veer. but new Ichha took a firm decision to accept Veer love and now she is trying to win the love of her in laws and not just choosing easiest way to run out. she hs handled Tapu pregnancy news also very dignify way and not doing any stupid things for which old Ichha was famous. some people r still criticizing her, but i think this is the best things which Ichha is doing and hats off to her👍🏼



Good you like what they are showing of Ichha.

But if I were to say what is the right way in such a situation...is to not take everything so lying down.....and expressing one's thoughts and opinions politely to elders, when they are wrong. And if she cared a zilch about what daddaji/mai etc are saying to her, then I could understand that it was ok to be there and listen to everything. But if it hurts her...whats the point being so servile and still stay there? How could anyone ignore her own "being", her own "self"..and still be considered right?........if something affects you emotionally .....and you continue to choose it for yourself..is it not acceptance of emotional abuse?......Hats off to acceptance of abuse??


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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: hima_123



Good you like what they are showing of Ichha.

But if I were to say what is the right way in such a situation...is to not take everything so lying down.....and expressing one's thoughts and opinions politely to elders, when they are wrong. And if she cared a zilch about what daddaji/mai etc are saying to her, then I could understand that it was ok to be there and listen to everything. But if it hurts her...whats the point being so servile and still stay there? How could anyone ignore her own "being", her own "self"..and still be considered right?........if something affects you emotionally .....and you continue to choose it for yourself..is it not acceptance of emotional abuse?......Hats off to acceptance of abuse??




Okay, Iccha is handling the current situation well....but I dont agree on her again emotionally blackmailing Veer for not leaving the house yesterday after whatever mai said to him..she is well aware that how much Veer is suffering and about his stand on Taps...why cant she respect that and leave with her husband atleast to bring him some peace...on top of that not agreeing to stay with him in the same room..she takes him for granted...her sacrifices have always impacted Veer in a bad way...so its not just hurting her self being, she is used to it and by nature may have accepted it, but now she has to think about Veer's happiness....I think she is being selfish here by saying that she cant take the blame for snatching another son from mai...what about Veer...he has done so much for her....I got pissed off with her stand today...🤢..
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Posted: 14 years ago

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Okay, Iccha is handling the current situation well....but I dont agree on her again emotionally blackmailing Veer for not leaving the house yesterday after whatever mai said to him..she is well aware that how much Veer is suffering and about his stand on Taps...why cant she respect that and leave with her husband atleast to bring him some peace...on top of that not agreeing to stay with him in the same room..she takes him for granted...her sacrifices have always impacted Veer in a bad way...so its not just hurting her self being, she is used to it and by nature may have accepted it, but now she has to think about Veer's happiness....I think she is being selfish here by saying that she cant take the blame for snatching another son from mai...what about Veer...he has done so much for her....I got pissed off with her stand today...🤢..
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@hima,@Vijayam .... rightly said...she is taking Veer too much for granted....and whatever sacrifices she has made in life has affected Veer toooooo much...and even now she is letting her and Veers happiness to take a back seat so that Mai can do manmaani....she knows that Veer will never allow Tapasya to his life again and he is sick of seeing her...and the remaining option is the kid getting really good care from Jogi and others....so when she knows that this is the right thing to happen to Tapasya and her kid, why is she allowing Veer to be insulted so much...he is fighting against everyone for this girl...pls pls pls CVs,,,,,,please give some strong dialogues to Ichcha....i dont want to see Ichcha shouting at Veer and saying we wont go...i want Ichcha to say something to Mai...trying to make her understand and once she fails allow some honor for her husband in front of others by choosing to leave the house with him and allowing him to take decisions....

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: akruz



@hima,@Vijayam .... rightly said...she is taking Veer too much for granted....and whatever sacrifices she has made in life has affected Veer toooooo much...and even now she is letting her and Veers happiness to take a back seat so that Mai can do manmaani....she knows that Veer will never allow Tapasya to his life again and he is sick of seeing her...and the remaining option is the kid getting really good care from Jogi and others....so when she knows that this is the right thing to happen to Tapasya and her kid, why is she allowing Veer to be insulted so much...he is fighting against everyone for this girl...pls pls pls CVs,,,,,,please give some strong dialogues to Ichcha....i dont want to see Ichcha shouting at Veer and saying we wont go...i want Ichcha to say something to Mai...trying to make her understand and once she fails allow some honor for her husband in front of others by choosing to leave the house with him and allowing him to take decisions....



Iccha still doesnt realize how lucky she is to have Veer who has given her a new lease of life...she cant stand on her own in front of taps or nani....but comes out very strong with her gyan on Veer, ammu & jogi...people who really care for her...I wish they gave more strength to her character....really pity Veer...he is in deep mess now.....
Edited by vijayam - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
I am still hopeful...Ichcha will support Veer...but i really dont want her:

1. to do her Tappu jaap to Veer
2. to emotionally attack Veer like she did today
3. to be mum in front of Mai and all Ichcha bashers


Ichcha pls give some happiness to Veer🥱


And please dont decide for Veer, whom he should love or hate😡 ....

Btw are CVs really trying to portray Ichcha as a heroine...do they think that we are in some 17th century and only a soul as good as Ichcha can bring high TRPs...

we are practical women of today and we need practical characters....pleaseeeeeeeeeee
Edited by akruz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: akruz

I am still hopeful...Ichcha will support Veer...but i really dont want her:


1. to do her Tappu jaap to Veer
2. to emotionally attack Veer like she did today
3. to be mum in front of Mai and all Ichcha bashers


Ichcha pls give some happiness to Veer🥱


And please dont decide for Veer, whom he should love or hate😡 ....

Btw are CVs really trying to portray Ichcha as a heroine...do they think that we are in some 17th century and only a soul as good as Ichcha can bring high TRPs...

we are practical women of today and we need practical characters....pleaseeeeeeeeeee


absolutely.....👍🏼
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Posted: 14 years ago
i m not supporting the over sacrificing nature of Ichha nor any Veecha fan. i hv indicated only the changes in new Ichha from Old one. we r not expecting she will become Jhansi ki Rani. i hv not habbit to live in utopia as some people. if Ichha is trying to win the love of her elders on her own way to keep unite the family, some people find it against faminism, but same people r comfortable whn Tapu beg, humuliate herself, running after a man who hate her to the core. Hats off to such sense of faminism. as i told i will not blindly support Ichha for all her deed nor any veecha fan r doing. we r criticizing her too. but if we hv only two choices Tapu and Ichha, our choice will be Ichha anytime. i will choose anytime a sacrificer over a snatcher, a over mahan atma to a over devil. i never supported Ichha act to sacrifice Veer, but now as she is not doing so, i m happy with it.
Edited by ankit111 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: ankit111

i m not supporting the over sacrificing nature of Ichha nor any Veecha fan. i hv indicated only the changes in new Ichha from Old one. we r not expecting she will become Jhansi ki Rani. i hv not habbit to live in utopia as some people. if Ichha is trying to win the love of her elders on her own way to keep unite the family, some people find it against faminism, but same people r comfortable whn Tapu beg, humuliate herself, running after a man who hate her to the core. Hats off to such sense of faminism. as i told i will not blindly support Ichha for all her deed nor any veecha fan r doing. we r criticizing her too. but if we hv only two choices Tapu and Ichha, our choice will be Ichha anytime. i will choose anytime a sacrificer over a snatcher, a over mahan atma to a over devil. i never supported Ichha act to sacrifice Veer, but now as she is not doing so, i m happy with it.



Aap to gussa ho gaye ankit ji.....but i would like to elaborate some points here:

Ichcha is not leaving Veer and Ichcha handled the pregnancy news really well...But according to me,enough harm is done to Veer by bad decisions taken by Ichcha at various points in her life...And now it is time for both Ichcha and Veer to find some happiness in life....when Veer insists that he cannot tolerate Tapasya at his home, it is justified, because she is such a ruthless soul... and Ichcha by making him stay back is actually giving him more tensions and she is taking more sorrows in life....so here the point is it is high time Ichcha decides whether she should look for Veer's happiness or she should look for his family's happiness who are currently wrong... here i support Veer for his decision because Mai wont even care to listen to Ichcha or Veer and she will bring in Tapasya....Ichcha said to Veer, i cannot take myself being held responsible for separation of second son also....so here Ichcha wants Veer to stay back because else the accusation will be on her...but should nt she also think about Veer...dont you feel that he has made enough and more adjustments in life just for Ichcha...dont you feel that its time for Ichcha to understand him a bit and support him in his decisions....he is not a bad decision maker...he has taken really good decisions in life...so here i am with Veer....and Ichcha should change more....and though i always love Veecha and will continue loving them, i still feel....Ichcha should prove to me more that she is really worthy of Veer's love.....with due respect to the character Ichcha and iterating the fact that i am a 100% Veecha fan😛
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: akruz



Aap to gussa ho gaye ankit ji.....but i would like to elaborate some points here:

Ichcha is not leaving Veer and Ichcha handled the pregnancy news really well...But according to me,enough harm is done to Veer by bad decisions taken by Ichcha at various points in her life...And now it is time for both Ichcha and Veer to find some happiness in life....when Veer insists that he cannot tolerate Tapasya at his home, it is justified, because she is such a ruthless soul... and Ichcha by making him stay back is actually giving him more tensions and she is taking more sorrows in life....so here the point is it is high time Ichcha decides whether she should look for Veer's happiness or she should look for his family's happiness who are currently wrong... here i support Veer for his decision because Mai wont even care to listen to Ichcha or Veer and she will bring in Tapasya....Ichcha said to Veer, i cannot take myself being held responsible for separation of second son also....so here Ichcha wants Veer to stay back because else the accusation will be on her...but should nt she also think about Veer...dont you feel that he has made enough and more adjustments in life just for Ichcha...dont you feel that its time for Ichcha to understand him a bit and support him in his decisions....he is not a bad decision maker...he has taken really good decisions in life...so here i am with Veer....and Ichcha should change more....and though i always love Veecha and will continue loving them, i still feel....Ichcha should prove to me more that she is really worthy of Veer's love.....with due respect to the character Ichcha and iterating the fact that i am a 100% Veecha fan😛



I must agree with your logic because I feel so too. 😊 However , this logic won't work here, I fear. This here is CV logic and we members just have to wait and go along with it.

What I cannot understand though is what Ichcha's stand has to do with feminism😕 That comparison or comment makes very little sense to me.

Besides, I know we all tend to move away from the topic that was originally started but really we are not here to compare or contrast Ichcha and Tapasya at all.
Edited by groucho - 14 years ago

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