Gunwanti not to accept marriage - Article - Page 15

Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

Theek hai Groucho ji we have differing opinions on this😊 But particularly the night she was kicked out...when she entered her house again...whenever she heard Jogi say he has only one daughter...she has always torn up. Tapu used to be good until she started feeling the normal jealousy kids feel when another child draws away their parents attention. Veer had once talked to vansh about a time he had felt the same way and he had started getting jealous of Vansh when they were kids. So that jealousy was normal but it was allowed to then grow nto hatred it wasnt stopped like Veer's was. nani was the main factor...and Jogi and Divya imbecile parenting skills. We had once heard a real life story from one of the forums members how they went through exactly the same phase and it took them many months of conselling to overcome it. So all that was REAL it was normal but Tapu's hatred grew and grew under nani's poison so much so that it has taken over her and become a mental obsession over which she cannot see anything else. poor girl its not like she cant love but what im trying to say is that her mind is very damaged and it was clear today. I just want her better! She has suffered under her mental condition much more than she has made anyone else suffer.

• Yes she was torn up but that was on the terminology of Jogi's remark of having one daughter Nothing about love.
• Yes sibling jealousy and rivalry is common in families, some more than others.
  
• Yes, Nani was not a good influence on Tapasya. I question whether even Nani knew that Tapasya's mental state would not be able to comprehend, handle and overcome her (Nani's) negative influence
• A lot of what Tapasya did even Nani did not know. Maybe Nani would have made excuses for them later but she was never a part of it.
• Nani makes trouble behind the scenes as she is a gutless person, who loves the comfort Jogi gives her and will never upset the apple cart - even for her darling Tappu.
  
• In India (where the serial is set and in the kind of household Tappu is brought up) rarely will you find parents taking their children to counsellings. This is more prevalent abroad.
• Yes, her thinking has become warped and I also think she needs help.
• Divya - not a good role model
• Jogi - may have given Ichcha more attention from time to time but I do not think he was a bad father maybe a tad bit skewed.
• If Tapasya is sure that Jogi loves her now then why has she turned to Nani again for help?? Because she has not changed and she knows that Jogi will not hesitate to put her in a hospital (mental or otherwise)
• If Tapasya has any issues why does she not sort it out with Jogi, like Ichcha did about her father???
• Relationships have to work both ways. Tapasya is grown up now, she can take the bull by the horns and have a heart to heart with Jogi. I am positive he will not turn her away because he knows how upset she is with Ichcha and Veer's marriage.
• I need to see what happens in the future episodes that will prove me wrong about Tapasya's feelings for Jogi. I think at present, he is a means to her end.
• I am not denying she thinks she loves her parents but true love does not deceive the ones you love.

Originally posted by: groucho

Oh I don't differ with you on points you have made SRK. They are real issues.

Let me try and say this without sounding biased (which I am not as you well know, I only comment on what is being shown).

• Yes she was torn up but that was on the terminology of Jogi's remark of having one daughter Nothing about love.
• Yes sibling jealousy and rivalry is common in families, some more than others.
  
• Yes, Nani was not a good influence on Tapasya. I question whether even Nani knew that Tapasya's mental state would not be able to comprehend, handle and overcome her (Nani's) negative influence
• A lot of what Tapasya did even Nani did not know. Maybe Nani would have made excuses for them later but she was never a part of it.
• Nani makes trouble behind the scenes as she is a gutless person, who loves the comfort Jogi gives her and will never upset the apple cart - even for her darling Tappu.
  
• In India (where the serial is set and in the kind of household Tappu is brought up) rarely will you find parents taking their children to counsellings. This is more prevalent abroad.
• Yes, her thinking has become warped and I also think she needs help.
• Divya - not a good role model
• Jogi - may have given Ichcha more attention from time to time but I do not think he was a bad father maybe a tad bit skewed.
• If Tapasya is sure that Jogi loves her now then why has she turned to Nani again for help?? Because she has not changed and she knows that Jogi will not hesitate to put her in a hospital (mental or otherwise)
• If Tapasya has any issues why does she not sort it out with Jogi, like Ichcha did about her father???
• Relationships have to work both ways. Tapasya is grown up now, she can take the bull by the horns and have a heart to heart with Jogi. I am positive he will not turn her away because he knows how upset she is with Ichcha and Veer's marriage.
• I need to see what happens in the future episodes that will prove me wrong about Tapasya's feelings for Jogi. I think at present, he is a means to her end.
• I am not denying she thinks she loves her parents but true love does not deceive the ones you love.

As I said before, I hope Tapasya finds true love because I believe only that will change her. But to do that she needs to recognise the meaning of selfless vs selfish love. Just my thinking.

Originally posted by: Greenbear

Do you think she will be able to find true love in these circumstances because now it seems her only mission in life is destroying Ichcha and seperating her from Veer? Who will love her in this state?

Originally posted by: groucho

I must have missed them because I only remember her saying over and over again, that I am his daughter not Ichcha.

The point I am making is that Tapasya is to be pitied in a certain sense because she has never really loved selflessly.

Think back ,😍SRK, whatever Ichcha got, Tapasya felt she should have got it.( I am not talking about one or 2 incidents when she was actually happy for Ichcha in the beginning) At the start of course, Tapasya wanted Ichcha to have everything and that is because she needed a playmate not because she had a generous spirit. Even then her jealousy started with material goods, like the pencil box, cycle etc etc and then went on to a fight for her father's attention.

Even now, she keeps saying Veer is hers. Veer is not a toy and you and I both know he was never hers, she stole him away from Ichcha (with a lot of help from Ichcha too). I am not blaming anyone here, it is my observation---- This situation is the way it is and it has to be dealt with.

I hope, in time she will be loved in a way which teaches her what selfless love is..............😊

Originally posted by: groucho

Oh I don't differ with you on points you have made SRK. They are real issues.

Let me try and say this without sounding biased (which I am not as you well know, I only comment on what is being shown).

• Yes she was torn up but that was on the terminology of Jogi's remark of having one daughter Nothing about love.
• Yes sibling jealousy and rivalry is common in families, some more than others.
  
• Yes, Nani was not a good influence on Tapasya. I question whether even Nani knew that Tapasya's mental state would not be able to comprehend, handle and overcome her (Nani's) negative influence
• A lot of what Tapasya did even Nani did not know. Maybe Nani would have made excuses for them later but she was never a part of it.
• Nani makes trouble behind the scenes as she is a gutless person, who loves the comfort Jogi gives her and will never upset the apple cart - even for her darling Tappu.
  
• In India (where the serial is set and in the kind of household Tappu is brought up) rarely will you find parents taking their children to counsellings. This is more prevalent abroad.
• Yes, her thinking has become warped and I also think she needs help.
• Divya - not a good role model
• Jogi - may have given Ichcha more attention from time to time but I do not think he was a bad father maybe a tad bit skewed.
• If Tapasya is sure that Jogi loves her now then why has she turned to Nani again for help?? Because she has not changed and she knows that Jogi will not hesitate to put her in a hospital (mental or otherwise)
• If Tapasya has any issues why does she not sort it out with Jogi, like Ichcha did about her father???
• Relationships have to work both ways. Tapasya is grown up now, she can take the bull by the horns and have a heart to heart with Jogi. I am positive he will not turn her away because he knows how upset she is with Ichcha and Veer's marriage.
• I need to see what happens in the future episodes that will prove me wrong about Tapasya's feelings for Jogi. I think at present, he is a means to her end.
• I am not denying she thinks she loves her parents but true love does not deceive the ones you love.

As I said before, I hope Tapasya finds true love because I believe only that will change her. But to do that she needs to recognise the meaning of selfless vs selfish love. Just my thinking.

Originally posted by: ankit111

dose she even know wht is true love????? she only know to posses things. even if anybody start truly love her, (only becoz love is blind), it will be one sided. even thn Tapu wd like to posses him and as usual u r only mine. she dosnt know tht love means to believe. as it is truely said "if u love let him go, if he retrutns it urs if not it was never urs". so before finding true love she sd know the meaning of it, which i dont think she know

Originally posted by: payel_roy

no no ankit she knows wats true love but unfortunately its only herself whom she luvs truely...😆

Originally posted by: groucho

I must be honest. Watching Tapasya's character yesterday, I felt nothing but pity for her. What a sad and pathetic figure. Reduced to a screaming, crying, whimpering, person.

She resembled nothing like the calculating Tapasya one has got used to. That Tapasya one could dislike very easily because she was always up to some mischief about how to hurt another person be it Ichcha, Veer, Vansh or whomsoever. This Tapasya is like a child who has lost her favourite toy and MUST have it back at any cost. She does not know what to do and how to do it so Nani will, no doubt, help her out. Maybe then she will revert to being the old Tapasya again. But yesterday, she came across as a ridiculous figure. I certainly could not hate her as she was yesterday

Although I must admit I had the TV on mute because of all the screaming. OMG!!! what shouting she could have given Dolly Bindra a run for her money😉