To me, Ichcha is a failure:Warning on PG9 - Page 5

Originally posted by: mithila.v

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thanx shivai....you echoed all my thoughts/views on this .....poor ichcha is at the receiving end of all tortures from all her nera n dears....and she is always bound by promises to suffer silently..

and in vanshs death....every other person had a lion share of guilt....they all cooly turned blind eye to his state ...and left ichcha to bear the whole brunt ....and now they dare accuse her...

after having seen what vansh was when he n ichcha returned from the hotel fiasco....why the whole family had to go visiting some relative...did they not realise their son needed more attention

they all just allowed things to go as it is n now all gang against ichcha ...mai is the biggest idiot if she cant see thru taaps n ........... veer less said the better.......he is the dumbest.......his only strong point is he loves both ichca n vansh.........veer already knew what taaps is n what she is capable of from his own marriage experience....still he didnt react when at the time of vansh/iccha wedding .... when taaps took vansh to a room alone....and vansh attitude totally changedafter.....he should have smelt something is not right n suspected the obvious....taaps............again at the temple changing of the thread veer cannot guees ////omg anyone with normal intelligence .....would have done it.....then in the party...veer sees the evil naani taking vansh alone upstairs...he should have followed instead of just throwing worried looks........veer is just fit to keep giving worried looks n doesnt react when needed........

and lastly when the doctor told him about vanshs condition.....he should have straight come home n enlisted others help n taken/dragged( if needed) vansh for treatment....well he didnt do any of these .....just kept uselessly calling ichcha n complicating matters.........

its high time all these cartoons learn to speak n act spot on ....else its circus all the way...where in tapni are the ring masters

I,m pleased to know tht u can c the true side of the picture.Mithila, I can see u have good indepth analysis..of a situation , just not the only obviously visible facts. Well done...Well done for being brave to accept the truth..Darling.👍🏼...

Originally posted by: mithila.v

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thanx shivai....you echoed all my thoughts/views on this .....poor ichcha is at the receiving end of all tortures from all her nera n dears....and she is always bound by promises to suffer silently..

and in vanshs death....every other person had a lion share of guilt....they all cooly turned blind eye to his state ...and left ichcha to bear the whole brunt ....and now they dare accuse her...

after having seen what vansh was whenhe n ichcha returned from the hotel fiasco....why the whole family had to go visiting some relative...did they not realise their son needed more attention

they all just allowed things to go as it is n now all gang against ichcha ...mai is the biggest idiot if she cant see thru taaps n........... veer less said the better.......he is the dumbest.......his only strong point is he loves both ichca n vansh.........veer already knew what taaps is n what she is capable of from his own marriage experience....still he didnt react when at the time of vansh/iccha wedding.... whentaaps took vansh to a room alone....andvansh attitude totally changedafter.....he should have smelt something is not right n suspected the obvious....taaps............again at the temple changing of the thread veer cannot guees ////omg anyone with normal intelligence .....would have done it.....then in the party...veer sees the evil naani taking vansh alone upstairs...he should have followed instead of just throwing worried looks........veer is just fit to keep giving worried looks n doesnt react when needed........

and lastly when the doctor told him about vanshs condition.....he should have straight come home n enlisted others help n taken/dragged( if needed) vansh for treatment....well he didnt do any of these .....just kept uselessly calling ichcha n complicating matters.........

its high time all these cartoons learn to speak n act spot on ....else its circus all the way...where in tapni are the ring masters

wow.... such a long post to support already written long posts........nice one.....

yes, there have been complications and stupidities from all the people in the serial ... maybe because of lack of proper thinking by the CVs/family members of the protagonists.......

everyone was at fault, but the topic of discussion here is Ichcha....and so, when we look at her role, even she cannot be discounted of the shortcomings/lapses that she has and which have affected the lives of so many around her......

would you please like to reply...as to which daughter donates her husband in charity at the marriage mandap..? what happens to the feelings of a widowed mother in such an event when her daughter commits such a folly.....?? i know Damini had been emotionally blackmailed into accepting the donation of her great, noble daughter...

ok..Veer was wrong....he had been just calling Ichcha....about the medical condition of her husband and should have spoken to his family members also....but that was how the CVs complicated the matters...but why did she have to hide from Vansh about Sid, when he had come to search for Tappu, why did she take all the blame of being characterless on her own...why didnt she tell him about Tappu and Sid at that time...then, while sitting with Veer at the restaurant, why did she have to tell a lie....Ichcha never tells a lie after all....

and then, when Tappu and Sid tried to murder her, and she had ample proof of all that, she didnt say anything...and here, just because she saw the gun in Veer's hand, she started howling that Veer has killed my husband...just on the basis of plain suspicion...no proofs...so when the person is next Tappu, you can play with his/her life...and implicate him...without any proofs......is that noble...really good...worthy of appreciation...????? she, so very conveniently forgot the pains/hard efforts/sacrifices that Veer underwent so that his brother could become and lead a normal life again..........

till date, everybody was asking Ichcha to grow/develop a spine ...and now, some people are trying to portray her as a Devi.....Regalla has rightly said - to each his own.....

Originally posted by: shivani109

I,m pleased to know tht u can c the true side of the picture.Mithila, I can see u have good indepth analysis..of a situation , just not the only obviously visible facts. Well done...Well done for being brave to accept the truth..Darling.👍🏼...

with due regards, i would like to ask just one question..

so whosoever agrees with you.....possesses good indepth analysis power.... and is brave enough to accept the truth...what truth? facts/analysis that appear closer/real to your perception......they may not be acceptable to the other people...that doesnt make them liars or 😡 cowards 😡 and lacking analytical powers..... 😕 😕

chaloji..i would say...all those who feel so that their polarised view is the only truth prevailing here, please be happy with the feeling....but, please, dont call the others idiots..who cant analyse or rather cant analyse the way, you do ...and agree with you........

Originally posted by: regalla

@ shivani - see .. to each his own.......maen kisi ki "Ichcha ki Andh Bhakti (blind devotion) ko challenge nahin karna chahti...and that is not my purpose...... you have used derogatory words in your above so many posts against everybody except Ichcha......you call her noble...so let her be so...from your point of view.....

as for my opinion, i hold on to my fort....that is why the heading of my topic is that ...."To me, Ichcha is a failure..." and am rather glad and grateful that at least 23 people (as of now) agree with me...........they are of the same opinion.......

so a few polarised opinions of those who are fans of Ichcha hardly change my views........as i said earlier...to each his own......

Ichcha was not being noble, when she didnt even confide in Ammu.....she was being stupid right from the beginning....tell me which child of 9-10 years does not even share things with her mother....so she was having those independent tendencies right from the beginning.....(which led her to fall into a pit and take everybody associated along with her into it) plus, i can contradict all your posts, but i dont feel the need to.....there are many more important things to life..i would rather delve on some other topic or go through some interesting book/studies..........once again, i reiterate...to each his own.......

so i am happy with my POV and i would request all the others to be content with theirs.....but at least a few people think like me...as suggested in the previous 4 pages.........i am grateful to them for helping me believe again...that my thought process/analysis abilities are still normal........

bye....take care........

Darling I have used derogatory words against every character except ichcha bcoz thts my POV abt them. I dont write here to gain popularity, I write here to gain satisfaction for myself by expressing my dissatisfaction abt the characters of this soap, exactly the way u have done, I dont hesitate to swim against a tide shud a need arise. My POV does not change bcoz somebody may not like it...BTW Ichcha to me is a uncut diamond and all the other characters are stones, only a jeweller with a gr8 eye n wisdom can tell the differance between a diamond n an ordinary stone. Its not a problem if everyone do not recognise a diamond...plzz b happy with ur POV coz my intention was not 2 change ur pov, but simply point out my POV...no offence was meant 2 u at any stage...I had replied in this post plainly 2 express my POV N i dont force anyone 2 accept my POV

Originally posted by: shivani109

Darling I have used derogatory words against every character except ichcha bcoz thts my POV abt them. I dont write here to gain popularity, I write here to gain satisfaction for myself by expressing my dissatisfaction abt the characters of this soap, exactly the way u have done, I dont hesitate to swim against a tide shud a need arise. My POV does not change bcoz somebody may not like it...BTW Ichcha to me is a uncut diamond and all the other characters are stones, only a jeweller with a gr8 eye n wisdom can tell the differance between a diamond n an ordinary stone. Its not a problem if everyone do not recognise a diamond...plzz b happy with ur POV coz my intention was not 2 change ur pov, but simply point out my POV...no offence was meant 2 u at any stage...I had replied in this post plainly 2 express my POV N i dont force anyone 2 accept my POV

so now, you would say that you are the only person who recognises a diamond and can tell it from the stones...that again is your perception...and once again smells of an inflated self analytical power....when you say that only a jeweller with a great eye and wisdom can tell the difference....

so you mean you are the only one possessing great eye and wisdom here....all the rest of the people, here on this forum are dumb, idiots.....?? that is really very objectionable madam...

just say...that this was your point of view and nobody needs to change each other's point of views..that is it...why again...this so called boasting about your being above the rest..??? this i dont find in good taste...

the forums are for discussion and exchange of views only..but that doesnot give anybody the right to self-proclaim themselves as higher or more intelligent/analytical than the rest........... 🤢 🤢 🤢

Originally posted by: tutbi

so now, you would say that you are the only person who recognises a diamond and can tell it from the stones...that again is your perception...and once again smells of an inflated self analytical power....when you say that only a jeweller with a great eye and wisdom can tell the difference....

so you mean you are the only one possessing great eye and wisdom here....all the rest of the people, here on this forum are dumb, idiots.....?? that is really very objectionable madam...

just say...that this was your point of view and nobody needs to change each other's point of views..that is it...why again...this so called boasting about your being above the rest..??? this i dont find in good taste...

the forums are for discussion and exchange of views only..but that doesnot give anybody the right to self-proclaim themselves as higher or more intelligent/analytical than the rest........... 🤢 🤢 🤢

thts ur POV

Originally posted by: shivani109

thts ur POV

that is my point of view...but i dont call it higher than anybody else's.... i dont call myself a jeweller and the others lacking the ability to judge a diamond from the rest....... all are equal here on the forum....so nobody should be showing off this inflated self esteem....

but you were wrong in saying so?? isnt it?? chalo let us leave this point...bye....myself leaving for office...all the best...may you continue to have this jeweller's qualities all along and be our guiding light when we feel our brains are not upto the mark.......

Originally posted by: tutbi

that is my point of view...but i dont call it higher than anybody else's.... i dont call myself a jeweller and the others lacking the ability to judge a diamond from the rest....... all are equal here on the forum....so nobody should be showing off this inflated self esteem....

but you were wrong in saying so?? isnt it?? chalo let us leave this point...bye....myself leaving for office...all the best...may you continue to have this jeweller's qualities all along and be our guiding light when we feel our brains are not upto the mark.......

All the best 2 u tooo

Originally posted by: tutbi

wow.... such a long post to support already written long posts........nice one.....

yes, there have been complications and stupidities from all the people in the serial ... maybe because of lack of proper thinking by the CVs/family members of the protagonists.......

everyone was at fault, but the topic of discussion here is Ichcha....and so, when we look at her role, even she cannot be discounted of the shortcomings/lapses that she has and which have affected the lives of so many around her......

would you please like to reply...as to which daughter donates her husband in charity at the marriage mandap..? what happens to the feelings of a widowed mother in such an event when her daughter commits such a folly.....?? i know Damini had been emotionally blackmailed into accepting the donation of her great, noble daughter...

ok..Veer was wrong....he had been just calling Ichcha....about the medical condition of her husband and should have spoken to his family members also....but that was how the CVs complicated the matters...but why did she have to hide from Vansh about Sid, when he had come to search for Tappu, why did she take all the blame of being characterless on her own...why didnt she tell him about Tappu and Sid at that time...then, while sitting with Veer at the restaurant, why did she have to tell a lie....Ichcha never tells a lie after all....

and then, when Tappu and Sid tried to murder her, and she had ample proof of all that, she didnt say anything...and here, just because she saw the gun in Veer's hand, she started howling that Veer has killed my husband...just on the basis of plain suspicion...no proofs...so when the person is next Tappu, you can play with his/her life...and implicate him...without any proofs......is that noble...really good...worthy of appreciation...????? she, so very conveniently forgot the pains/hard efforts/sacrifices that Veer underwent so that his brother could become and lead a normal life again..........

till date, everybody was asking Ichcha to grow/develop a spine ...and now, some people are trying to portray her as a Devi.....Regalla has rightly said - to each his own.....

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Originally posted by: tutbi

with due regards, i would like to ask just one question..

so whosoever agrees with you.....possesses good indepth analysis power.... and is brave enough to accept the truth...what truth? facts/analysis that appear closer/real to your perception......they may not be acceptable to the other people...that doesnt make them liars or 😡 cowards 😡 and lacking analytical powers..... 😕 😕

chaloji..i would say...all those who feel so that their polarised view is the only truth prevailing here, please be happy with the feeling....but, please, dont call the others idiots..who cant analyse or rather cant analyse the way, you do ...and agree with you........

hi dear... i dont want to land into a fight..........but somehow, i second you.....after all, we, with different POV cannot be liars, cowards, or idiots to lack the basic IQ/analytical powers......

am sorry that the discussion reached such levels.....