To me, Ichcha is a failure:Warning on PG9 - Page 4

Originally posted by: shivani109

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hey..this is really beautiful.....although i dont agree with the content for which i am sorry.... 😊

Originally posted by: regalla

hey..this is really beautiful........... 😊

heyyyy no worries, its beautiful I know 😳

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 1/6

Hello darling , i don't think I said u were discounting tht evil wicked witch Tapsaya, I said Ichcha is still the best of all the characters in this soap.

I refute ur comment tht Ichcha is dumb n takes all relations for granted..n.she failed in all relations...

Ichcha is not dumb...bcoz she knew what she was n where she comes from, so at all times she put others needs ahead of hers though she was treated fairly equal with Tapasya if I may say so. Putting others needs ahead of urs is called a noble attitude not dumbness for goodness sake...

She did not have a fairy mother or God father who guided her in her life to tell her the truth, tht she needs 2 put her needs above others needs to survive in this world.

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 2/6

Ichcha did not take any ones relations for granted

With Tapsaya there is no need for explanation

With her mother..again..if one has a capability 2 look beyond, they wud realise tht infact, its Ammo who failed in her relation with Ichcha, Ammo promised Ichcha 2 give a good life, but she became a slave to her weakness of being kind 2 the cruel Jogi family who snatched away her husband n just not tht, she allowed Ichcha to be illtreated by Naani,

Tapasya, Divya n co..n on top of tht Bloody Ammo made Ichcha give a promise 2 kee ptht bloody babyje happy for ever in her life...so Its not Ichcha who failed its Ammo who failed in the mother daughter relationship

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 3/6

Now coming to the whole relation of veer Ichcha,

she did not take his relation for granted by choice, she had to take this decision 2 part with Veer under tremendous pressure n exceptionally difficult circumstances, to save a bloody Tapsaya's life not realising tht this bloody Tapsaya is a evil wicked witch.

What the hell did Veer do to save this relation..tht impotent fool failed to reveal the evil wicked witch Tapasya's intentions in his own family n allowed Ichcha to get into a messy web of his bloody addict brother Vansh's life. He cud also have adopted blackmailing tactics by slitting wrists n jumping of a building to get Ichcha's attention , bloody hell who stopped him from doing tht.... Veer by fighting with his family for marrying Ichcha did no favours to ichcha, he did a favour 2 himself wanting to have Ichcha as his life partner. So its not Ichcha whoz a failure its Veer whoz a failure by not achieving ichcha as his wife.

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 4/6

As a wife with Vansh I guess she totally devoted herself in his care, giving him all love, care n affection inspite of Vansh's ill feelings n rude behaviour towards her, so its not ichcha's failure tht the idiot Vansh cud nto see her truth towards this relationship n failed to full his relation ship with Ichcha.

I see no reason y she failed to be a dutiful daughter in law, when she might have done everything within her capacity 2 b a good DIL i guess, may b u wrote this statement in a fit of frustration..I dont really know...I guess shez called a failure may b bcoz she treated Vansh with love n care instead of treating him likea filthy worm for his habits..

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 5/6

Darling what else can I Say abt ur fairness in this post, U cannot give benefit of doubt to Ichcha who probably married to vansh for not even for 2-3 months..but gave him abundant love n affection n treated him like a human being n helped in a way recover from his longstanding illness....

but Bloody hell when Veer, Mai, Baba n Baldev hid the truth of Vansh's addiction N Psychotic illness for 13 yrs or so n treated him like a dog locked in a single room, instead of getting adequate treatment for Vansh u give them benefit of doubt. How can u claim no one was aware of Vansh's mood swings when he was seen behaving rudely n manhandling Ichcha right under their noses.. ..

Originally posted by: regalla

hi shivani..... i am not discounting Tappu here....she is the worst... no doubt about that...but still...just because the others are more negative/careless, that fact, does not make Ichcha's faults/shortcomings any lesser........Tappu is the declared vamp...she is evil personified...but Ichcha....she is not bad...but just because of her dumbness and nature of taking relations for granted, she has failed in all relations...be it that of a mother-daughter, that of a lover or that of a wife or daughter-in-law......was she aspiring for some "Merit Certificate for best conduct" for Vansh, her husband, when she was denying/hiding his volatility and mood swings from the others....

OK..the Bundela Toons didnt have that understanding..i give them this benefit of doubt...but what about Veer...when he was so sincerely concerned about his brother, shouldnt he have been given the true picture......he lost his brother and then, ends up in lockup for no fault of his..........just because our main protagonist, the just turned widow has raised her finger on him because of poor judgement or rather lack of basic IQ....

PART 6/ 6

Its Veer's fu...🤬 dumbness n lack of intelligence which landed him in jail, y the hell did he not contact Ichcha on his way to the fort to find out what cud b troubling Vansh or y did he not warn Ichcha tht Vansh cud probabaly b in danger. y the fu..🤬... hell did he not call for help from a hospital or from a police station 2 tell them Tht Vansh's life is in danger, atleast when Vansh was found dying with a gunshot..wound....its not Ichcha's fault to call Veer a culprit when he is found at the scene of crime with direct evidence pointing to him...so its basicallly ..🤬..Veers dumbness n lack of presence of mind n intellegence the root cause of all problems...Had he exposed evil wicked witch Tapasya at the right moment none of these evils wud have happened...

Originally posted by: shivani109

PART 5

Darling what else can I Say abt ur fairness in this post, U cannot give benefit of doubt to Ichcha who probably married to vansh for not even for 2-3 months..but gave him abundant love n affection n treated him like a human being n helped in a way recover from his longstanding illness....

but Bloody hell when Veer, Mai, Baba n Baldev hid the truth of Vansh's addiction N Psychotic illness for 13 yrs or so n treated him like a dog locked in a single room, instead of getting adequate treatment for Vansh u give them benefit of doubt. How can u claim no one was aware of Vansh's mood swings when he was seen behaving rudely n manhandling Ichcha right under their noses.. ..

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@ shivani - see .. to each his own.......maen kisi ki "Ichcha ki Andh Bhakti (blind devotion) ko challenge nahin karna chahti...and that is not my purpose...... you have used derogatory words in your above so many posts against everybody except Ichcha......you call her noble...so let her be so...from your point of view.....

as for my opinion, i hold on to my fort....that is why the heading of my topic is that ...."To me, Ichcha is a failure..." and am rather glad and grateful that at least 23 people (as of now) agree with me...........they are of the same opinion.......

so a few polarised opinions of those who are fans of Ichcha hardly change my views........as i said earlier...to each his own......

Ichcha was not being noble, when she didnt even confide in Ammu.....she was being stupid right from the beginning....tell me which child of 9-10 years does not even share things with her mother....so she was having those independent tendencies right from the beginning.....(which led her to fall into a pit and take everybody associated along with her into it) plus, i can contradict all your posts, but i dont feel the need to.....there are many more important things to life..i would rather delve on some other topic or go through some interesting book/studies..........once again, i reiterate...to each his own.......

so i am happy with my POV and i would request all the others to be content with theirs.....but at least a few people think like me...as suggested in the previous 4 pages.........i am grateful to them for helping me believe again...that my thought process/analysis abilities are still normal........

bye....take care........