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Posted: 8 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: -LumosMaxima-

@ bold👍🏼. I agree with you. But some people think what he is doing is correct since his intention is correct so consequences be damned (Now his intention changes with every episode that's another matter). If CVs think like that then Suraj won't come out of his self-pity mode ever. Suraj needs to rectify his way of thinking only then he can see his faults and will be able to save himself & others from this mess.

I don't think that his intentions are changing with every episode,his only intention is to help imli out,surely he has given different reasons to do so..but I found them all apt..n it's not always necessary that we will always have positive consequences of something..decisions taken with good intentions sometimes can go haywire...n a good example is,when chakor did the bride swap.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Richa1994

I don't think that his intentions are changing with every episode,his only intention is to help imli out,surely he has given different reasons to do so..but I found them all apt..n it's not always necessary that we will always have positive consequences of something..decisions taken with good intentions sometimes can go haywire.

IMO if he has to provide different reasons every day to justify his actions then he himself is not convinced enough about his intention. If he wants to protect Imli or lessen his guilt for his previous actions then he should not have used Chakor's happiness as an excuse in the first place. I find his reasons contradictory to EO. Yes you are right sometimes we can't predict the consequences of our actions. Here Suraj had a chance to stop this mess but for whatever reason he chose to stay inactive. I don't believe telling Chakor the truth would have made him less of a man or irresponsible man. He did not need to jeopardize his marriage to protect the child or Imli.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't think that his intentions are changing with every episode,his only intention is to help imli out,surely he has given different reasons to do so..but I found them all apt..n it's not always necessary that we will always have positive consequences of something..decisions taken with good intentions sometimes can go haywire...n a good example is,when chakor did the bride swap. @bold and Chakor got good enough pain and punishment for that decision. She lost her first love due to that.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have only one thing to add
According to spoiler suraj finds out kn and honestly goes and tells Chakor.
And i am so proud of him.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -LumosMaxima-

@ bold 👍🏼. I agree with you. But some people think what he is doing is correct since his intention is correct so consequences be damned (Now his intention changes with every episode that's another matter). If CVs think like that then Suraj won't come out of his self-pity mode ever. Suraj needs to rectify his way of thinking only then he can see his faults and will be able to save himself & others from this mess.


For me, no matter how good someone's intentions are, if his actions leads to disastrous consequences then one needs to be punished. However, i have my own understanding as to why suraj's explanation is changing every day, you might feel free to completely disagree with me😛.

I think due to their bad childhood, both sukor lacks self-confidence as far as relationships are concerned and feel that noone can love them just for themselves or the way they, thus devising their own strategies to counteract this problem. chakor uses her resourcefulness as means to keep her dear ones always near to her, thats why no matter how badly they treat her, she keeps on doing things for them as she doesnt want their "zaroorat" for her to end. I saw fear on her face when during holi track she came to know that suraj has got work without her help, she said "suraj ko ab hamari zaroorat nahi hain" and then their was relief when she helped him with the kids when she said" dekha suraj, tumhe aakhirkar hamari zaroorat pad hi gayi".

suraj, on the other hand, till he was himself, his father used to beat him, abuse him and then when he started doing things KN's way, he got his affection. in his mind to get a person's love he has to be like him, so to when he was with KN, he bacame KN -part 2, with chakor, he became chakor-part 2 and started behaving exactly like her. the original suraj is there but it fears to come out lest chakor leaves him.

when he saw imli in distress, he did what exactly chakor did a year ago, sacrificed her love, took everyone's blame and hatred but he failed to realize that one cant copy someone blindly. chakor's actions were based on her priority list, she loved imli more than vivan so she sacrificed and let go. but does imli ranks higher than chakor in suraj's priority list, i dont think so, thats why he's not letting go off chakor as well. he doesnt realize that his current demand is downright cheap, he wants to stay with two women in his room and he expects chakor to comply with that.

his conditions is like that student who was copying so blindly that he copied the other person's name too. he thought since he acted like chakor , she'll understand and support him but now that chakor has left him, he's all confused that why he did what he did, did he do right or wrong and thats why he's coming up with new explanation daily. hope i made sense😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonam21


For me, no matter how good someone's intentions are, if his actions leads to disastrous consequences then one needs to be punished. However, i have my own understanding as to why suraj's explanation is changing every day, you might feel free to completely disagree with me😛.

I think due to their bad childhood, both sukor lacks self-confidence as far as relationships are concerned and feel that noone can love them just for themselves or the way they, thus devising their own strategies to counteract this problem. chakor uses her resourcefulness as means to keep her dear ones always near to her, thats why no matter how badly they treat her, she keeps on doing things for them as she doesnt want their "zaroorat" for her to end. I saw fear on her face when during holi track she came to know that suraj has got work without her help, she said "suraj ko ab hamari zaroorat nahi hain" and then their was relief when she helped him with the kids when she said" dekha suraj, tumhe aakhirkar hamari zaroorat pad hi gayi".

suraj, on the other hand, till he was himself, his father used to beat him, abuse him and then when he started doing things KN's way, he got his affection. in his mind to get a person's love he has to be like him, so to when he was with KN, he bacame KN -part 2, with chakor, he became chakor-part 2 and started behaving exactly like her. the original suraj is there but it fears to come out lest chakor leaves him.

when he saw imli in distress, he did what exactly chakor did a year ago, sacrificed her love, took everyone's blame and hatred but he failed to realize that one cant copy someone blindly. chakor's actions were based on her priority list, she loved imli more than vivan so she sacrificed and let go. but does imli ranks higher than chakor in suraj's priority list, i dont think so, thats why he's not letting go off chakor as well. he doesnt realize that his current demand is downright cheap, he wants to stay with two women in his room and he expects chakor to comply with that.

his conditions is like that student who was copying so blindly that he copied the other person's name too. he thought since he acted like chakor , she'll understand and support him but now that chakor has left him, he's all confused that why he did what he did, did he do right or wrong and thats why he's coming up with new explanation daily. hope i made sense😛


Yeah, coming to think of it...you are right. Hope someone puts some sense into him and makes him understand that being oneself is the best and that is why despite all the flaws he has, still we love him ...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonam21

For me, no matter how good someone's intentions are, if his actions leads to disastrous consequences then one needs to be punished. However, i have my own understanding as to why suraj's explanation is changing every day, you might feel free to completely disagree with me😛.

I think due to their bad childhood, both sukor lacks self-confidence as far as relationships are concerned and feel that noone can love them just for themselves or the way they, thus devising their own strategies to counteract this problem. chakor uses her resourcefulness as means to keep her dear ones always near to her, thats why no matter how badly they treat her, she keeps on doing things for them as she doesnt want their "zaroorat" for her to end. I saw fear on her face when during holi track she came to know that suraj has got work without her help, she said "suraj ko ab hamari zaroorat nahi hain" and then their was relief when she helped him with the kids when she said" dekha suraj, tumhe aakhirkar hamari zaroorat pad hi gayi".

suraj, on the other hand, till he was himself, his father used to beat him, abuse him and then when he started doing things KN's way, he got his affection. in his mind to get a person's love he has to be like him, so to when he was with KN, he bacame KN -part 2, with chakor, he became chakor-part 2 and started behaving exactly like her. the original suraj is there but it fears to come out lest chakor leaves him.

when he saw imli in distress, he did what exactly chakor did a year ago, sacrificed her love, took everyone's blame and hatred but he failed to realize that one cant copy someone blindly. chakor's actions were based on her priority list, she loved imli more than vivan so she sacrificed and let go. but does imli ranks higher than chakor in suraj's priority list, i dont think so, thats why he's not letting go off chakor as well. he doesnt realize that his current demand is downright cheap, he wants to stay with two women in his room and he expects chakor to comply with that.

his conditions is like that student who was copying so blindly that he copied the other person's name too. he thought since he acted like chakor , she'll understand and support him but now that chakor has left him, he's all confused that why he did what he did, did he do right or wrong and thats why he's coming up with new explanation daily. hope i made sense😛

I somewhat get what you are saying. But everyone has their own interpretation of a certain situation. Yes Chakor does crave the love of her loved ones and Suraj might have the habit of copying others to be loved by them but at the end of the day he needs to get out of this confused zone. He is behaving like an immature kid and not like a responsible adult. That's how I see him in this track. Chakor suffered enough when she prioritize Imli over Vivaan but when I see Suraj is repeatedly choosing Imli over his marriage with Chakor that leaves a bad taste and that car night does not help his case either. That was extremely unnecessary and Suraj was huge disappointment in that scene, at least to me.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@chasa, i feel its not just suraj but chakor too needs to change her outlook towards maintaining of relationships.
@LumosMaxima, i agree with you about the suraj-imli scenes, for drama sake the CV's tend to get overboard and some of their scenes are done very unaesthetically and distastefully. but about suraj's character, i see it this way. in this show character growth and progression happens only when KN starts going after that person and their suffering and fight to overcome the problems starts. for chakor this journey started since childhood, she is what she is today coz of that 20yrs struggle, her mental strength, grit, determination, never say die attitude,ambition, everything while suraj's journey has just started. for 25yrs he had a happy, careless and arrogant lifestyle, its just months ago that he has started seeing the real face of life, hardships, etc. i feel it'll take time for him to mature and become sensible, with every mistake and following punishment, he'll learn and grow.

atleast this is what i'm expecting from this track, coz if suraj doesnt make amends for his huge blunder, doesnt changes his attitude towards marriage, relationships and chakor, then all this drama, mu doesnt make any sense .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Sonam
All I want to say to you is I am really loving your impartial,unbiased comments where you are thinking from two cents without taking any sides,being absolutely practical and thereby logical...👍🏼
You should really be an active member...😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tara_Vjian

I have only one thing to add

According to spoiler suraj finds out kn and honestly goes and tells Chakor.
And i am so proud of him.

.. suraj has been hiding important life matter to her ..what is the necessary that he tells to chakor.?.it's not much of matter more than her life ..😛

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