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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: chasa



See ..u urself made the points clear...its always chakor who is supposed to understand suraj..his intentions, and yet we can't deny the fact that she has been the only person who stood by him..and yet she has to suffer cuz of his undying love for his stupid ex


I dint meant Chakor shd always understand d situation... she shd believe in her love.. she had belief on Suraj till yesterday..what happened today.. Suraj said he is d father ..so it's gone??? If there is true trust it will not... it ws such a complicated situation..where Suraj took such drastic step..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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if Suraj had a tough life...
so did Vivaan.
so did Ragini.
so did Chakor.

we never give excuses and justifications to the follies of the rest of the characters why should Suraj be an exception?

a strong character is the one who don't use the crutches of 'woe be me'.
he/she makes their own choices and lives by it.

Suraj made a choice to redeem himself beautifully. bandua track is the proof. and i was proud of him till he started getting too dependent on Chakor and couldn't/wouldn't do anything on his own.

and then carnight ride happened.

Chakor should understand Suraj?
then why couldn't Suraj understand Chakor? that she would be terribly hurt by his closeness with Imli.

and now he chose Imli and her unborn over Chakor.
to lessen Chakor's pain... he breaks her heart.
makes sense? not to me.

does he have any plan to get out the mess the he and Imli are into? if yes then i might give props to his mind. but NOT and never to his heart. because whatever his plans are and will be... it simply is not worth the pain, heartbreak and humiliation chakor will be going through.

Chakor should be proud of him for what?
that he chose her sister and her life over Chakor's sentiments? yes Chakor is a jagatmata but no girl could be and should be so mahaan that she would smile and cheer on seeing her husband and the man she loves to the point of madness can hurt her to this extent for her sister even if she loves her own sister obsessively.

not being rude or aggressive.. merely debating.😊


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

Ok, I understand your point of view, perfect defense for a lawyer who would advocate Suraj's case in an imaginary court. But, what about those hugs with Imli, that cozy night in the care? If he is really repenting, why does he indulge himself in such questionable behavior? Once I was defending Suraj against anyone and everything, I fought with Vikor's fans for him. They said he would never change if he is capable of marring the sister of the woman whom he impregnated without blinking while palming Imli and his baby to his own brother, that this show a very damaged character, hard to change! Now I see that they were right.

. I m sorry .. I dint know ur name.. u r telling those hugs.. with Imli.. rt?
1. Chakor coming happiness Suraj shared with Imli...
2. When Imli told she is pregnant
3. Shown in latest olvs..

Can I tell u one thing.. they r gud friends.. both moved on frm their past life and started a fresh start with their respective partners...they loved them too.. if a gud friends hugged each other while sharing some gud gud news.. whts d pbm..????? If we saw such a situation in real life wil u doubt??? If they had past dnt they hv rt to move on in their life??? The hug shown in latest olvs.. Imli was in such a terrific situation..we can't even imagine.. she hugged her gud friend I dint feel ny pbm in that...

Abt at cozy night.. I m dumb.. that I hv t ask cvs.. their stupidity.. they dnt know thnepower of character and their impact in viewers tt y thy show such cozy night
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: revuvarun


I dint meant Chakor shd always understand d situation... she shd believe in her love.. she had belief on Suraj till yesterday..what happened today.. Suraj said he is d father ..so it's gone??? If there is true trust it will not... it ws such a complicated situation..where Suraj took such drastic step..



sorry for butting in..
Chakor would have still lived in denial and will hold on to Suraj even if God himself comes her and tells her otherwise.
why shouldn't she believe when the man himself has declared in front of whole wide world that he is the father of the child.
and even takes her oath too.

Chakor should believe in her love?
is it only Chakor duty to love, understand and trust? Suraj has NO responsibility towards her sentiments? her OWN sentiments. not the ones she habours for her sister and the world. her heart, her love, her husband.

yes it is complicated situation and Suraj's decision was wrong. .. even if he will be backing it up with some plan hurting and humiliating Chakor to this extent is wrong.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sorry to say but it's so distasteful how u support imraj hug...urggh...I could never ever side with that
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tarasuresh

Loved you analysis..👍🏼

thank u
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: chasa

Sorry to say but it's so distasteful how u support imraj hug...urggh...I could never ever side with that

what shd I tell u... It's d difference in point of view.. They r gud friends... Why always their past matters?? Past is past... I never gv importance to past.. In real life too.. If we think abt.. Live in past.. Hw will we move on.. Here both of them hv move on.. But bhaji sab Abhi past mein hi he ab tak... So Iheir hug doesnt affect me as a viewer..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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excellent and well thought through analysis... you really voiced my thought... both Chakor and Suraj are phoenix... they will rise again... his true shades are buried but at he had already hinted and asked Chakor eventhough she was in principle against the gun factory contract but he had sought and informed his intent to safeguard Imli at any cost.
lets wait and watch though painful still the udaan reserch team and CVs will be hearing all voices around and will not char the culture...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: revuvarun

. I m sorry .. I dint know ur name.. u r telling those hugs.. with Imli.. rt?

1. Chakor coming happiness Suraj shared with Imli...
2. When Imli told she is pregnant
3. Shown in latest olvs..

Can I tell u one thing.. they r gud friends.. both moved on frm their past life and started a fresh start with their respective partners...they loved them too.. if a gud friends hugged each other while sharing some gud gud news.. whts d pbm..????? If we saw such a situation in real life wil u doubt??? If they had past dnt they hv rt to move on in their life??? The hug shown in latest olvs.. Imli was in such a terrific situation..we can't even imagine.. she hugged her gud friend I dint feel ny pbm in that...

Abt at cozy night.. I m dumb.. that I hv t ask cvs.. their stupidity.. they dnt know thnepower of character and their impact in viewers tt y thy show such cozy night



Hi,
My name is Claudia.

Again, about those hugs... let's imagine this way: if Suraj was your husband and Imli was his ex with whom he had a baby, and one day you come home from work and you find them so comfortable into each other arms, hugging, how would feel? No, you don't have to answer. Maybe you will feel alright, maybe not, we are different people and look at the things differently. Maybe you are not affected by a hug between ex lovers, but as you could see, many people on this forum are. Many people consider that such a high level of relaxation, enjoyment, closeness should be shared only with your spouse when you hug him and not with a friend no matter how close he/she is. A simple shake of her hand with have been enough for Suraj to tell Imli that she can count on him. There are many ways to show affection without hugging as husband and wife.

And why blame the CV for what Suraj did. Suraj doesn't exist, he is the creation of CV. When we criticize Suraj, we are actually referring to the product of their work, which is the story. We should never forget that Suraj doesn't exist! If we have to put the blame on CV for every wrong done by Suraj, then we can do the same with the other characters as well, don't we? Like, KN was never bad is just the CV who made him bad, Ragni was also good but those CV made her evil, Vivaan is also good, but again, we should blame CV for his actions, and the list goes on.

There is just one truth is all of this: Udaan is a badly written story. They started with a good idea but they didn't know how to carry it further.

What you tried to say about Suraj... I think you are right... this was their intention... but they didn't know how to put it on the screen, they didn't know how to deliver their message, they wanted us to feel sympathy for Suraj, but it turned out the opposite because he is hurting too many people in the process. They should have thought it more deeply. It is not about you or I being right, is about a story which lost its focus and that is what the people are complaining about.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: revuvarun



I dint meant Chakor shd always understand d situation... she shd believe in her love.. she had belief on Suraj till yesterday..what happened today.. Suraj said he is d father ..so it's gone??? If there is true trust it will not... it ws such a complicated situation..where Suraj took such drastic step..



It's not right to choose your best friend over your wife the one who you claim to "love". The woman who left her career for him, protected him from KN, stood by him during bandhua days and stood by him through thick and thin. The woman sacrificed everything for him her modesty, self respect and everything. Where was his Imlu than? Romancing her useless husband and doing bacha planning? He know the his topmost priority should be his wife not Imli, her detoriating health or her unborn baby. She is not his responsibility. There were other ways to deal with the problem as well rather than giving your wife a major heartbreak who loves you more than anything his intentions were good but not the impulsive decision he took. He claims that he could not see Chakor begging but he can see he shattering and breaking down into pieces after his grand confession. He did wrong to Imli and he is repenting for that but he has done more wrong to Chakor forcefully married her, nearly raped her and tortured her but still she stood by him in his bad times.

Why should Chakor understand everything? Suraj needs to understand her love and feeling for him as well. Chakor was always the one to understand him, his needs and everything where she stood by him how much more do you expect her to understand him? She should understand him even when he announces to the whole world that he cheated on her. She should understand him when he made her look like a fool in front of everyone after his grand confession. She has to understand him when he claims to have a extra-marital affair? How much more can she understand him? She has understood him enough now it's his turn. I always fought and supported Suraj against all the vikor and imraj fans and now I am beginning to regret it just left looking like a damn fool.

If Suraj announces to the whole world that he is the father and also takes Chakor's oath what other option does she have except to believe him? She trusted him more than anything but if he is accepting himself in front of her she can do nothing but to believe him. Trust is important for a relationship but not blind trust even after he accepts the accusations against him.

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