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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: nycgal


Nimmi - how do these creatives come up with nonsense like this? How do sane actors agree to act illogical tracks like this and justify it to the press. So Suraj out of love for Chakor - to prevent her from pain on account of Imli...decides to deliver the worst pain of all by putting her down in front of the villagers and disrespecting her trust in him. A 5 year old won't write nonsense like this. The constant references to Suraj by Imli and Imli by Suraj...the touching...who touches their sister in law this way. There are folks in this forum who actually believe because the baby is not his - its all right. I feel so abused by the makers of this show...I invested time in it and they are delivering absolute crap.


Priya..So glad you stopped by..I love reading your thoughts...

I recoil at those touches EVERY.SINGLE.TIME..WITHOUT FAIL..
Call me prude, old fashioned whatever..I have said it many times and saying it again..Somethings are just off limits..PERIOD.
How can you normalize this behaviour??



How can you normalize this behaviour??

simple!
it is because Suraj and Imli are indulging in this behaviour.
reverse the situation and let it be Chakor and Vivaan behaving in such way and you will witness hell and brimstone and righteous anger.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ipkrr


Nimmi - how do these creatives come up with nonsense like this? How do sane actors agree to act illogical tracks like this and justify it to the press. So Suraj out of love for Chakor - to prevent her from pain on account of Imli...decides to deliver the worst pain of all by putting her down in front of the villagers and disrespecting her trust in him. A 5 year old won't write nonsense like this. The constant references to Suraj by Imli and Imli by Suraj...the touching...who touches their sister in law this way. There are folks in this forum who actually believe because the baby is not his - its all right. I feel so abused by the makers of this show...I invested time in it and they are delivering absolute crap.



i won't grudge actors for enacting whatever they are made to. i do have a problem if they start justifying the shiz.

@bold.
boggles the mind. doesn't it?

it is like .. to cure someone from cold give them cancer.

ahh the touches and hugs and all that jazz.
you want to know how distasteful they are just let Chakor and Vivaan enact them.
not only Imli and Suraj but even the forum will let us know how 'no-no' it is.

from a friend to friend.. let go priya. this serial is now a troll fodder.
a true wet dream of Mahesh bhatt... who gave a french kiss to his own daughter (pooja bhatt) posing for a magazine cover and quoted.. 'if she weren't my daughter i would have married her.'.

and pray that Bhatt saab doesn't go whole all out with his ideas of morality and relationships.


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Posted: 8 years ago
Saw the promo and came to the forum.
Good to read all your wonderful thoughts after a long time.. Couldn't agree more..

Though I have stopped following the show, don't know why I even give a thought to any piece of information I come across regarding this show, the promo in this case..

Anyways..
Since Suraj was the only one to trust Imli, would have been better if he tried proving that the baby is Vivaan's rather than making such a declaration. That would have been a better help to her and everyone else. If he trusts Imli and believes that the baby is Vivaan's, it means that Vivaan's reports were tampered, and someone from the haveli would be involved. He should have rather kidnapped Vivaan and taken him to Lucknow or some other city to get his medical tests done.

Suraj WAS NEVER this naive. He was the one who could read people, their actions and situations very well.
He was the one to doubt Vivaan's actions and his intentions even when KN trusted Vivaan blindly. He was the one who figured out Chakor's swap plan at the slightest of hint, and then tricked her into her own plan. And now we have him believing Vivaan and Ragini, and furthermore going about with this stupid declaration.

Why did he claim the baby to be his?? FOR CHAKOR????
And we thought heartbreak from your loved one would hurt more than being insulted by the ever so ungrateful villagers. Chakor by now would be used to, to the the latter. Suraj need not have taken such an extreme step FOR CHAKOR. Oh so he is helping here get used to, to heartbreaks as well.. Now that's very thoughtful on Suraj's part.

Cvs have burried Suraj's character not six feet under but sixty feet under or maybe deeper down. Suraj Rajvanshi is long gone never to return again, Chakor needs to move on and never look back..
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Sumo23

Saw the promo and came to the forum.
Good to read all your wonderful thoughts after a long time.. Couldn't agree more..

Though I have stopped following the show, don't know why I even give a thought to any piece of information I come across regarding this show, the promo in this case..

Anyways..
Since Suraj was the only one to trust Imli, would have been better if he tried proving that the baby is Vivaan's rather than making such a declaration. That would have been a better help to her and everyone else. If he trusts Imli and believes that the baby is Vivaan's, it means that Vivaan's reports were tampered, and someone from the haveli would be involved. He should have rather kidnapped Vivaan and taken him to Lucknow or some other city to get his medical tests done.

Suraj WAS NEVER this naive. He was the one who could read people, their actions and situations very well.
He was the one to doubt Vivaan's actions and his intentions even when KN trusted Vivaan blindly. He was the one who figured out Chakor's swap plan at the slightest of hint, and then tricked her into her own plan. And now we have him believing Vivaan and Ragini, and furthermore going about with this stupid declaration.

Why did he claim the baby to be his?? FOR CHAKOR????
And we thought heartbreak from your loved one would hurt more than being insulted by the ever so ungrateful villagers. Chakor by now would be used to, to the the latter. Suraj need not have taken such an extreme step FOR CHAKOR. Oh so he is helping here get used to, to heartbreaks as well.. Now that's very thoughtful on Suraj's part.

Cvs have burried Suraj's character not six feet under but sixty feet under or maybe deeper down. Suraj Rajvanshi is long gone never to return again, Chakor needs to move on and never look back..



Sumo.
🤗

SO good to see ya. you were missed.
as usual pleasure to read your wonderful thoughts.
WORD to everything.

if anyone says Suraj did this FOR Chakor i will say thank you for the cracker of a joke and roll on the floor laughing my ass off. or roll my eyes with such a speed that they will be struck in grotesque angle.

Suraj was buried long time back. Cvs are merely stamping on his grave now. and we were hoping for his resurrection. .

if Chakor moves on and lives a successful life without looking back and cherry on the top.. a new terrific guy comes for her even as a friend.. i swear i will start watching the serial again. i love it when good girls go bad and start kicking ass.😈



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Posted: 8 years ago

Unless it's a mad, passionate, extraordinary love..it's a waste of your time.
There are too many mediocre things in life; Love shouldn't be one of them. __ Anonymous.


so now that the last hope, last connect, last thread is gone i am back to the original question.
Who am I?

A Suraj basher or a Suraj'ian.

Started off as a hardcore Suraj'ian. my first, foremost and major probably the ONLY reason to star this journey at the first place.
for the sheer sky shattering potential i saw in him.

and then he kept disappointing and shattering my expectations over and over again.
and i became a Suraj basher.

and now seeing the mediocre way he lived and loved... i can't bring myself to do anything with him.

so who am I?

A former Sukor'ian i guess. nothing more. nothing less.
they were magic once a time. and the memories are glorious.❤️


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Banjaaran.



Sumo.
🤗

SO good to see ya. you were missed.
as usual pleasure to read your wonderful thoughts.
WORD to everything.

if anyone says Suraj did this FOR Chakor i will say thank you for the cracker of a joke and roll on the floor laughing my ass off. or roll my eyes with such a speed that they will be struck in grotesque angle.

Suraj was buried long time back. Cvs are merely stamping on his grave now. and we were hoping for his resurrection. .

if Chakor moves on and lives a successful life without looking back and cherry on the top.. a new terrific guy comes for her even as a friend.. i swear i will start watching the serial again. i love it when good girls go bad and start kicking ass.😈



Nimmi.. 🤗
Same here.. Missed you and your posts too.. Reading your thoughts is pure bliss..
Been avoiding the forum so that I could completely get over this show.. But we had this fabulous promo and I came back to read all the wonderful thoughts here..

Exactly the person would be joking if they say Suraj did this FOR Chakor. One doesn't give bigger pain to their loved ones to rid them of the smaller pains.
Positivity is good as long as it doesn't turn into delusion. Would rather be a realist than an optimist.

Yes they killed him with the car scene and the lie and have been carrying out the funeral rites ever since.. And with the scenes to follow they won't let him rest him in peace either..

I hope Chakor moves on, Su Kor won't be the same ever again, but Cvs care two hoots what their viewer's want.. They have always ignored the viewer's feedback and spoiled a wonderful story. I wonder how do they get trps..
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Priya and Sumo, I was so glad to read your opinions about this current track, I was missing you and your point of view.

What else can I say about the current situation? I am very tired. All the ladies here have said it all. Nothing more to add.

Just a little confession: I am very proud of all the ladies on this forum who don't let anything to stay in their way and even if their are faced with twisted situations and complicated arguments, they are still able to distinguish right from wrong, they don't let the charms of actors to determine them to overlook the wrong deeds done by the characters!

"Udaan" is not an easy show, it is highly immoral, not a walk in the park like other shows. I always said that Udaan is not the playground for a typical hate-love story. It challenges many moral values, pushes to the extremes the bonds of human relationships. So, it was not a "piece of cake" to embark on this journey and write articulated comments about the non-sense that was described in the show, it was a real challenge. You made this journey beautiful, standing by what is correct.

I know that the love for an actor can make people turned their back on certain things, but I also know that in real life or even with another show/book, where the same facts are presented, they will condemn the wrongs. We all have that tiny voice in side our head who tells us what is right, it's up to us when to listen to it or not!

I'll take myself as an example. When the wedding track was happening, I defended Suraj against Vikor's fans. I always stated Suraj's potential as a leader and I was pointing to Vivaan's weak points. But somehow I didn't feel right! Why? Because they were true in their own way. They have traveled with Chakor and Vivaan for a very long time, almost two years, and CV sent them messages that Vivaan and Chakor were going to be a couple. Vivaan had a past full of good actions done for Chakor, while Suraj had only... promises... and a baby in Imli's womb!

I feel bad for arguing with them, they were hurt and on good reasons. Now I see myself in the same situation as they were. Like my mother always says: "One can't build his happiness on someone else's pain!" Having this in mind, I always knew that something wasn't fair, the swap was disgusting, but I was hoping, in vain, that Suraj was not the father which would have done a little justice because why should he pay for the sin of another man? They've cheated Vikor's fans back then and they are doing the same with us. "Once a cheater, always a cheater!"

Having said all of these, I hope, you ladies, find another show who is worthy of your time, energy and your wonderful capacity of analyzing. I will still be around this forum, hard to let it go completely, but I am interested into another show and thus, I will not be able to come very often.

@Priya, I saw your comment on the TSMSP forum, I am looking forward to discuss with you there, hope that more people from this forum will join us too!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Sumo23

Nimmi.. 🤗
Same here.. Missed you and your posts too.. Reading your thoughts is pure bliss..
Been avoiding the forum so that I could completely get over this show.. But we had this fabulous promo and I came back to read all the wonderful thoughts here..

Exactly the person would be joking if they say Suraj did this FOR Chakor. One doesn't give bigger pain to their loved ones to rid them of the smaller pains.
Positivity is good as long as it doesn't turn into delusion. Would rather be a realist than an optimist.

Yes they killed him with the car scene and the lie and have been carrying out the funeral rites ever since.. And with the scenes to follow they won't let him rest him in peace either..

I hope Chakor moves on, Su Kor won't be the same ever again, but Cvs care two hoots what their viewer's want.. They have always ignored the viewer's feedback and spoiled a wonderful story. I wonder how do they get trps..



big hugs right back at you Sumo.
and hey i love your posts and thoughts more. you say it all with such a poise and wonderful calm force. always absolute pleasure to read your thoughts.

@bold. you said it.
there is being optimist. there is being realist. and then there is being.. delusional. hoping for a Suraj that we SAW when we landed in this land would fall in the last category. i think time to let go completely.

agree with your entire post.
you said it perfectly.

and yes.. how to they trps? the same way Kumkum bhagya and saathiya gets theirs. i thought Udaan was a different serial. looks like it is made up of the same shiz.
bachua ka baap koun.
kabhi behen kabhi sautan.
and so on.


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Etna_Dia

@Priya and Sumo, I was so glad to read your opinions about this current track, I was missing you and your point of view.


What else can I say about the current situation? I am very tired. All the ladies here have said it all. Nothing more to add.

Just a little confession: I am very proud of all the ladies on this forum who don't let anything to stay in their way and even if their are faced with twisted situations and complicated arguments, they are still able to distinguish right from wrong, they don't let the charms of actors to determine them to overlook the wrong deeds done by the characters!

"Udaan" is not an easy show, it is highly immoral, not a walk in the park like other shows. I always said that Udaan is not the playground for a typical hate-love story. It challenges many moral values, pushes to the extremes the bonds of human relationships. So, it was not a "piece of cake" to embark on this journey and write articulated comments about the non-sense that was described in the show, it was a real challenge. You made this journey beautiful, standing by what is correct.

I know that the love for an actor can make people turned their back on certain things, but I also know that in real life or even with another show/book, where the same facts are presented, they will condemn the wrongs. We all have that tiny voice in side our head who tells us what is right, it's up to us when to listen to it or not!

I'll take myself as an example. When the wedding track was happening, I defended Suraj against Vikor's fans. I always stated Suraj's potential as a leader and I was pointing to Vivaan's weak points. But somehow I didn't feel right! Why? Because they were true in their own way. They have traveled with Chakor and Vivaan for a very long time, almost two years, and CV sent them messages that Vivaan and Chakor were going to be a couple. Vivaan had a past full of good actions done for Chakor, while Suraj had only... promises... and a baby in Imli's womb!

I feel bad for arguing with them, they were hurt and on good reasons. Now I see myself in the same situation as they were. Like my mother always says: "One can't build his happiness on someone else's pain!" Having this in mind, I always knew that something wasn't fair, the swap was disgusting, but I was hoping, in vain, that Suraj was not the father which would have done a little justice because why should he pay for the sin of another man? They've cheated Vikor's fans back then and they are doing the same with us. "Once a cheater, always a cheater!"

Having said all of these, I hope, you ladies, find another show who is worthy of your time, energy and your wonderful capacity of analyzing. I will still be around this forum, hard to let it go completely, but I am interested into another show and thus, I will not be able to come very often.

@Priya, I saw your comment on the TSMSP forum, I am looking forward to discuss with you there, hope that more people from this forum will join us too!



Claudia..
what a beautiful post.❤️
all i say is ... Ditto.
and concur.
nothing more to add.

wish to see you all wonderful ladies and to read your wonderful thoughts in some other sane serial. 🤗.

lots and lots of love.
and bestest wishes.


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Posted: 8 years ago
Sree, Nimmi, Claudia...thanks!
I never had the Mahesh Bhatt insight into this ... yuck!

What has added insult to the injury is the rising trp for this track. I would have been happier to see a huge drop in the trp's for this kind of garbage.

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