Originally posted by: Ananya_A
I am really surprised by this comment of yours. How can you say that Edward+Bella's relation was more lust? Twilight is all abt the unconditional love between a mortal and an immortal. There was never lust between them. If lust was the case then he would have happily agreed to sleep with Bella before marriage. He was the one protecting her virtue throughout the series.. Edward was always running away from her because he was scared of hurting her..he kept convincing her how dangerous he was. Though he wanted her but he always prefered Bella to make her own choice.He would have sacrificed his love if bella chose Jake.
However since you have mentioned abt lust, i wud like to know the evidences that ur talking abt.
Thank you 😛 - That just serves as another example for why the relationship between Bella and Edward is not "true love". Going by the numerous times Bella tries to corrupt Edward's Victorian sensibilities by employing her feminine wiles, Yes, THAT is lust. Infatuation? Every other word reads as "Edward is so hawt!" and "I lurvee him!" That is not true love, it is infatuation. This is further exacerberated by the fact that it takes them a "glance" or more accurately, a week or so to realize that what they share is the real deal further shows that their relationship is not true love.
Fact is, there is no indication anywhere in the series that Edward and Bella are compatible mates. They don't ever have conversations, aside from how wonder the other is and "Grrr! I'm dangerous, stay away!!". They hardly ever do anything together. Yes, they watched Romeo and Juliet in the first book - which was a thinly-veiled attempt at comparing them to RJ (Ironic how apt that is considering Romeo and Juliet were in lust as well) - but other than that? Oh yes, they quote lines at each other. That does not scream "true love".
Of course, they can't be held accountable for this. Their infatuation/lust stems from the fact there they don't have actual personalities. When the only trait is "hotness" - well, there's not much scope for "true love". If you've ever watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you'll know what I'm talking about. Spike, Buffy and Angel had actual personalities which, while contradictory, complemented the traits of their partners. True love does not replace the necessity of relationship building. Meyer not-so-subtly distracts readers from this by mentioning their need for each other and that they can't live without each other; to the extent that they are willing to die for each other.
The only thing I have to say to that is - What is the basis of this need? What is it about Edward that Bella can't live without and vice versa? They clearly don't have much personality traits - let alone attractive ones - to talk of. They are in lust because there isn't much to be attracted to, emotionally.
Originally posted by: Ananya_A
Im sure you have heard smth called "Love at first sight" and it still exists. 😳You don't need one decade to realize if someone has the qualities to be your life partner, neither do you go dating for the nth time to know him properly. Sometimes just the first glance is enough to decide if its love. According to SM, Edward was inhumanly beautiful. Everything about him was mesmerizing, everything about him invited her in. Its obvious for a teenager like Bella to have feelings for him, you cannot call it lust just because the love happened abruptly. Edward's not so human qualites is what makes the movie different, the lovestory an epic. 😊This is not a lovestory of two humans but one mortal and one immortal,its ridiculous to expect what we usually see in random lovestories.
And whom are you calling a friend? Someone who tries to force a kiss on you, blackmail you so that you get weak and come running into his arms??? 😲if thats the definition of a true friend according to ur dictionary then i have nothing more to say here and im glad I dont have a friend like him😃
"Love at first sight" - I'm sorry but that isn't how real life or even romance fiction works (See, Pride and Prejudice, Jane Eyre and the likes for real romance.) Sure, you look across the room and there's someone really attractive there that you think is your one true "soulmate" but that first glance is purely your hormones in overdrive; you can ONLY feel physically attracted because there is nothing to emotionally or mentally attract by just one glance - this is evident in Edward and Bella's relationship: they are only physically attracted (infatuated/lust) to each other because there is nothing there to emotionally attract them!! To be truly in love with someone is to feel " a deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness". This cannot be achieved or known at "first sight" or "first glance". You need to *know* the person fully to be in love with them: their personality quirk, you need to know what ticks them off, what makes them smile, what they find boring et cetera.
You claimed Edward was inhumanely beautiful and hence, any teenager like Bella would have feelings or crush on him. Analyze the two sentences. He is beautiful; therefore, she likes him. How very superficial and shallow. If you like someone based merely on the way they *look*, that is not love - that's lust. I think a better question to consider would be: Why are Bella and Edward in love? Because her blood smells good and he looks like a marble Adonis? 😕
Hun, the love story between two star-crossed lovers, mortal and immortal, is not unique. It has happened numerous times. From the era of Shakespeare (possibly earlier), right down to the Buffy-Angel/Spike phenomena(non?), it is a prevailing theme with some contrasts. Time is needed to build a relationship - or "true love" as one may call it. It doesn't matter if the person in question is a hermaphodite, pixie, mortal, immortal or parasite. Relationship developement or building is extremely important.
I'm not going to justify Jacob forcibly kissing Bella because that was wrong but that does NOT justify Edward abusing Bella's property. You conveniently overlooked several instances where Edward has been abusive towards Bella in much the same manner. Not physically, perhaps, but emotionally and mentally? Heck ya. Regardless of what Jacob did in New Moon, Bella still considers him a friend of hers. Edward has no business removing the engine from her truck to prevent her from seeing Jacob. The fact that he has no respect for her personal property (not just in this instance, there are a lot more like this one) shows that their relationship isn't as perfect or "lovey-dovey" as it is described to be.
As for your other post, of course, no hard feelings =) 😉
Originally posted by: Sabrinaa xo
3. maybee; but it was more of a joke to me. i mean rob's face looked like he needed to puke or go to the bathroom. he looked constipated in most scenes, such as the biology scene.
i read the first few pages, but i know edward's mind was trying to kill her, but his expressions TO ME, didnt show his suffering, instead they showed how bad he needed to "go".
LMAO. That is so true. The audience at my theatre was howling with laughter at that scene, among other scenes. It did not look like he wanted to kill her or have her blood - rather, it seemed like he was avoiding nature's calls.
Edited by ShadowKisses - 16 years ago
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