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Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by punjini


Originally posted by Maya_M


Originally posted by punjini


One question is bugging me. Why on earth does he call himself Manohari Singh and not Manohar Singh?

Whatever the reason may be, he got his 15 minutes of fame. Tongue


I think he certainly deserves far more than 15 mins of fame. Big smile He has played such beautiful pieces in the most amazing songs of this era. It is a pity that the names of instrumentalists is rarely mentioned in albums.
 

That is another sad plight of music industry where none of these people even get royalty when their music/song is played. Another thing ID always says, had he been still a violinist, no body would have known him.

Posted: 15 years ago
Without going in to credit , no credit lying etc. I think it should be possible to analyze using scientific methods/instruments whether a particular piece was played by an artist if a proven sample already exists.

Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by Anu.Rad


What an irony - when we give you topic for dotw, you never speak and it lies in one corner of the world and you turn some other topic into a debatable one LOL Let me go through all posts LOL Smile

Yes anu, is is a joke, but at the same time, it's a pity too.  People have so much to talk about in criticism for every small wrong done, but very less in praise for loads of good work. (I'm speaking general here and not in particular about ID)

Posted: 15 years ago
Rather than speculating, it is best that the matter be clarified with ID. I see it nothing more than a misunderstanding. We should not jump to wrong thoughts first but give everyone a benefit of the doubt.
Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by chatbuster


Originally posted by shadyhtown


Originally posted by chatbuster


sure. like the vada pau comment for his own gharana member. for the lousy things he occasionally told his own "student" twinkle. for supporting mauli while his own contestants were getting eliminated. sure sure, good mentorLOL

Arre which contestant of his got eliminated because of Mauli? Jahan tak mujhe yaad hai, two of his female contestants reached the final, and a third was eliminated - and it was while supporting her that this whole issue with Khayyam arose. And Mauli was not part of the round where she was eliminated.

Some of your arguments are so contradictory. On one end, you say he should support his contestant instead of Mauli. And when he does support Jyoti and says her elimination is unfair, then you jump on him for being disrespectful to the judge. Ek baat ko pakdo yaar. Flip-flopping kaise chalegi. Wink

would appreciate your not characterizing member's positions based on your limited understanding/ logic. and it is very limitedWink If you are digging something from the past, provide a context. dont just go making wild statements for the heck of it. When you make personal type statements, you sure do open it up. i have no problem with eitherLOL

incidentally, nothing contradictory in what i have ever said. i detest his style, or rather lack of it. not the kind of behavior one needs to show-case. not a good role model to kids. do we want to encourage people walking off, throwing tantrums, passing cheap comments? i had that issue earlier with rawal and have more of it with ID. tell me, do you understand the difference between classy ways of showing disagreement and his kind of behavior?Wink

Nope. The characterization here is very much within the context, and based on the contradictory positions you have expressed in this very thread. I don't bring up past incidents completely unrelated to the discussion on hand, just because the mentor involved in that incident is being discussed here in a completely different issue. Some people seem to enjoy doing that. It helps them divert and stretch the debate. Wink

Want me to expose one of your contradictory positions? Well, it's funny how you say you detest people who throw tantrums and pass cheap comments, but you have no problem with Abhijeet's comments. In fact, in this very thread,  you quote and applaud a member's post (agreeing to every point, mind you) which says walking out is worse than using abusive comments. I suppose ID should have stayed there and abused Khayyam saab rather than walk out on him. Just so long as he abused him without throwing a tantrum. Kyon? Wink

Edited by shadyhtown - 15 years ago
Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by joypaul


Originally posted by Anu.Rad


What an irony - when we give you topic for dotw, you never speak and it lies in one corner of the world and you turn some other topic into a debatable one LOL Let me go through all posts LOL Smile

Yes anu, is is a joke, but at the same time, it's a pity too.  People have so much to talk about in criticism for every small wrong done, but very less in praise for loads of good work. (I'm speaking general here and not in particular about ID)


You can call it an irony or a joke - the fact remains that you can't always have structured debates. Sometimes debates just happen. They are sparked by some news or development. I don't agree that people don't have anything good to say. There are all kinds of people. We even have people drooling over Shekhar or Aditya for reasons best known to them.
Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by chatbuster


Sure. like the vada pau comment for his own gharana member. for the lousy things he occasionally told his own "student" twinkle. for supporting mauli while his own contestants were getting eliminated. sure sure, good mentorLOL

Yes he made the vada pau comment for his own student, but he was so upset with his singing, because he must have put great efforts in him and that guy just messed it up.  As you yourself said, he speaks without tact, I would call it straight.  Criticising is also a very important aspect of training, in my perspective.

I do not remember that he ever made any lousy statement against Twinkle.  All he said to her was to concentrate on singing rather than other things.

Please get your facts right before stating.  It was Himesh's students who were ousted in favour of Mauli and not Id's.  ID fought for his student when he felt she was wrongly eliminated.

Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by punjini


You can call it an irony or a joke - the fact remains that you can't always have structured debates. Sometimes debates just happen. They are sparked by some news or development. I don't agree that people don't have anything good to say. There are all kinds of people. We even have people drooling over Shekhar or Aditya for reasons best known to them.
 

I did not say that people do not have anything good tosay, I said that they have very less to say in praise of good work  - I think there is a difference between these two.

Also about people saying good things about Shekar or Aditya, it is not for their good work but for other reasons as you know yourself.

Anyways, it is my point of view and what I've noticed in the forum, tha's all.

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