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bscorp13

@bscorp13

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Posted: 9 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: ramishi

But ruhi was also of the same age as pihu when she came to know about shagun as her mother but still she didn't felt that much heart break and later accepted ishita as her mother...so why can't raman disclose to pihu that she also has one more mother?

Ruhi was kept away from knowing who shagun was...it would have continued that way had shagun not claimed ruhi afterv the infamous tv interview...

Ishita was always the mother figurev to ruhi.. she didn't have anyone before. . With pihu that c won't be the case...shagun, till now has been a mother figure abs a decent one till now..when she has started manipulating her..

And honestly ruhi and adi both had traumatized childhoods wit custody battles and emo dramas. Pihu till now has had a happy childhood. ..it's not wrong to keep a painful truth away till the child is older and can understand. . What ruhi went through another kid needn't. .. and ishita didn't 'die' in a accident or some disease. .that could keep her happy memories Alibe by telling a young childb about her. . The circumstances were so bad that mentioning her to the child may have just taken away her innocence too...obviously the child would have been curious and maybe found the truth out...it is a scary thought for any parent..

Most children who are adopted or under foster care too .. are told by their parents normally when they are old enough to understand to preserve that innocence. ..and give them a happy environment to grow

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ramishi

@ramishi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: charminggenie
Because Ruhi's mom was alive and same town and Adi was her bhai who was frequent with Bhallas.
There is a big difference between a dead person and a living person.

Coping death is different than coping separation especially when Raman shared another kid with Shagun who was living with her.

And the custody case was filed by Shagun for Ruhi ..she never wanted to disappear from Ruhi's life. She just left Raman- big difference.

I agree coping with a dead person is different from coping with a person who is alive...but i don't think ruhi knew before hand that her mom is alive or not and there also raman and bhallas didn't disclose shagun's identity to ruhi...she came to know in the party from someone...so situation for ruhi and pihu is quite similar in both cases...and i don't think adi was in touch with bahllas or ruhi after shagun left bhalla house...even iyers didn't knew raman has a son and they came to know during ishra marriage through shagun...had adi been frequent then being the neighbours of bhallas iyers also could have known about his existance.

Shagun filing custody for ruhi and ishita is not filing marks their different nature...ishita too wanted to be with pihu after seeing her on her returning to india but when in hospital pihu requested her to not to take away her from her mamma and papa ishita fully withdrawn herself...and knowing ishita's nature even raman should realise that ishita is not going to disclose her identity to pihu or will show any rights on her...so in my opinion raman needs to mend ishita and pihu's relation.

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ramishi

@ramishi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Ruhi was kept away from knowing who shagun was...it would have continued that way had shagun not claimed ruhi afterv the infamous tv interview...
Ishita was always the mother figurev to ruhi.. she didn't have anyone before. . With pihu that c won't be the case...shagun, till now has been a mother figure abs a decent one till now..when she has started manipulating her..

And honestly ruhi and adi both had traumatized childhoods wit custody battles and emo dramas. Pihu till now has had a happy childhood. ..it's not wrong to keep a painful truth away till the child is older and can understand. . What ruhi went through another kid needn't. .. and ishita didn't 'die' in a accident or some disease. .that could keep her happy memories Alibe by telling a young childb about her. . The circumstances were so bad that mentioning her to the child may have just taken away her innocence too...obviously the child would have been curious and maybe found the truth out...it is a scary thought for any parent..

Most children who are adopted or under foster care too .. are told by their parents normally when they are old enough to understand to preserve that innocence. ..and give them a happy environment to grow

I agree to some extent but ruhi came to know about shagun way before the radio interview...she came to know in CEO award function when raman took her along with him and there someone told her pointing towards someone that the lady is her mother and ruhi went searching for her and later got trapped in the bathroom and ishita rescued her

Edited by ramishi - 9 years ago

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 9 years ago

#74

Umm- Ramishi- Adi and Shagun were till alive ..nameasake bond with Ruhi would have been out anytime. Some tangible . Raman knew they were alive yet he chose to hide that fact for his kid, Ruhi..says alot about that man and how he wants to protect the child.

Big difference in being alive and dead.

Like you said,.if Raman did same with Ruhi time during Shagun's case then why shouldn't he do the same with Pihu? ESPECIALLY when Ishita was dead in the most awful manner..why won't Raman hide that fact.

And again..what should they tell the kid now..dead mom back ..but she was hiding..how difficult is it to explain and put a child through that torture which i why it needs careful handling. Not a mess like what Ruhi went through.

If you say Ishita's mamta came out at the hospital then wrong time, wrong place and not consiustent she still told Mani and all, that she would leave with them. And if you compere then that makes Ishita same as Shagun..both chose to stay away from their kids for their own reasons? What difference be there then?

Raman can only mend something if it exists. Ishita is the one who has to decide if she wants to have any contact with Pihu as Maasi, Aunty or Mom ever with Pihu. Her decision then she needs to tell this to Raman and work in mending it together.

EDIT_ Do you want a 3rd unknown party to tell Pihu about her real mom and then she does searching and gets locked up? Nope..then 3 adults need to sit together. Especially Ishita , she needs to tell if she ever wants Pihu to know about her or be content with being Massi. That tho conflicts with Ruhi situation.

Not just a "Raman mess". It's Ishita's mess first.

Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago

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ramishi

@ramishi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: charminggenie
Umm- Ramishi- Adi and Shagun were till alive ..nameasake bond with Ruhi would have been out anytime. Some tangible . Raman knew they were alive yet he chose to hide that fact for his kid, Ruhi..says alot about that man and how he wants to protect the child.
Big difference in being alive and dead.

Like you said,.if Raman did same with Ruhi time during Shagun's case then why shouldn't he do the same with Pihu? ESPECIALLY when Ishita was dead in the most awful manner..why won't Raman hide that fact.
And again..what should they tell the kid now..dead mom back ..but she was hiding..how difficult is it to explain and put a child through that torture which i why it needs careful handling. Not a mess like what Ruhi went through.

If you say Ishita's mamta came out at the hospital then wrong time, wrong place and not consiustent she still told Mani and all, that she would leave with them. And if you compere then that makes Ishita same as Shagun..both chose to stay away from their kids for their own reasons? What difference be there then?

Raman can only mend something if it exists. Ishita is the one who has to decide if she wants to have any contact with Pihu as Maasi, Aunty or Mom ever with Pihu. Her decision then she needs to tell this to Raman and work in mending it together.

EDIT_ Do you want a 3rd unknown party to tell Pihu about her real mom and then she does searching and gets locked up? Nope..then 3 adults need to sit together. Especially Ishita , she needs to tell if she ever wants Pihu to know about her or be content with being Massi. That tho conflicts with Ruhi situation.
Not just a "Raman mess". It's Ishita's mess first.

I don't want any third party to tell pihu the truth and that is why i want raman to tell the truth to pihu before she comes know from outside and it is surprising that no one in all these years told anything to pihu about ishita specially the society people who came to the godhbharai and knew it is ishra child...i understand what you are saying but ishita is in guilt for leaving pihu and for not turning back all these years and that is why she herself thinks she doesn't deserved to be pihu's mom and going by her nature it is no surprise that she will not claim anything until someone gives her confidence that she too has the right on pihu and at this moment no one except raman can give her that required confidence so that she claims her right on things belongs to her...imo

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

Stunner

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Posted: 9 years ago

#76

Sigh.

Raman cannot and won't change the status quo because this has worked for his kid. If at all a situation came around , he would have handled it like he did with Ruhi. Building people had no idea that Shagun-Raman were not married- they don't matter. She was surrogate too. So there is that. Wasn't there a case where Pihu asked them about Shagun not being her real mom? They handled it then and would have handled it till she was grown up a bit.

If a guilt is all that holds Ishita from reaching out to Pihu and her other kids like Adi or now even Ruhi- whose custody is given to her and Raman, jointly, then I don't know what to say. Is it hard to imagine that Raman's guilt of protecting his kid Pihu from any bad news and raising her well and safe made him not tell her this horrifying truth? Is it too hard to imagine his fear especially how he lost Ruhi and Ishita?

Ishita should not need any confidence from any 3rd person or anyone but her own willingness. What if her relationship with Raman never mends? They never sort their differences and part ways. Would she give up all on her children even though 2 badly want to be part of her life? Food for thought.

I see Ishita mother a very independent entity and want her to reach out to her kids on her own. Thats her task.

Raman's Ishita needs his love,care and understanding and communication.

Hope this helps. Rest, respect your view.

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Sree

@Katyayani_devi

Trailblazer

+ 6

Posted: 9 years ago

#77

it's big mess as they already lost ruhi n later ishita irrespective of she is alive r dead,if they ve to say truth to pihu wat they will say tat raman-ishita as parents took decision of exchange pihu-ruhi n in tat game they lost as parents n lost ruhi n in tat raman pushed away ishita as ishita is not asli maa she is sauteli maa n pihu is surrogate daughter n all, becos of raman already broken ishita went to suicide n we all thought she is dead n after 7 yrs we came to know alive,here in all dis mess every one mistake is there n all kept silent becos they are mistakes on raman-ishita as parents n how a kid will take it so much mess r negativity.if ishita is alive r didn't go iyers didn't keep silent n if raman is not cause of abetment of ishita suicide n all,bhallas didn't keep silent tats y toshiji may be showing soaps to pihu n made her soap queen to understand own house dirty soap i.e sajan saural happening at her own house lol,just kidding.

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gargpoo

@gargpoo

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#78

V discuss the genuine reasons y pihu doesnt know abt ishita bt one more reason is there that is shagun's presence in bhalla house n ishra life...
Bcs if pihu knows the truth then no need to fake sharam relation n they cant show real sharam marriage ...shagun wud hv been married to manoj n no intereference in ishra life..
Bt they need a permanent vamp to drag/run the show..shagun is needed to make ishra reunion more complicated n many more prblms after that...thats y she is turning neg...n v know shagun will b there till last epi of yhm..

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ramishi

@ramishi

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: gargpoo
V discuss the genuine reasons y pihu doesnt know abt ishita bt one more reason is there that is shagun's presence in bhalla house n ishra life...
Bcs if pihu knows the truth then no need to fake sharam relation n they cant show real sharam marriage ...shagun wud hv been married to manoj n no intereference in ishra life..
Bt they need a permanent vamp to drag/run the show..shagun is needed to make ishra reunion more complicated n many more prblms after that...thats y she is turning neg...n v know shagun will b there till last epi of yhm..

I agree...actually shagun is the real reason for hiding ishita's identity from pihu...else shagun would have again lost her importance just like she lost it after adi's acceptance of ishita as his mother...and so to justify shagun's presence in ishra life the CVs first made her the surrogate mother (surrogacy was not needed for ishra and after seeing the current situation the things is more clearer now as it didn't met any of the reason for which it was actually intended) and then separated ishra and took leap...if not for fear of trp drop the CVs would have made sharam married by this time..imo

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Mreddy

@Mreddy

Explorer

Posted: 9 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: Sri1091

She can live with her parents can't she?? So dat she can atleast be in touch with Adi and Ruhi if not Pihu watz d need to go back to Australia I really dnt want her to go back to Australia

She does not have to go back to Australia at all. She can live elsewhere in another apt in the same city, but it will be sheer torture for her to live as a neighbor..and see Sharam and the kids together as a unit. Pihu does not know who she is, so the relation with Adi and Ruhi also will be secret. In one scene Adi was not able to say Ishima in front of Pihu. She will die a thousand deaths seeing all this.

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