Children of yhm - Page 9

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Umm- Ramishi- Adi and Shagun were till alive ..nameasake bond with Ruhi would have been out anytime. Some tangible . Raman knew they were alive yet he chose to hide that fact for his kid, Ruhi..says alot about that man and how he wants to protect the child.

Big difference in being alive and dead.

Like you said,.if Raman did same with Ruhi time during Shagun's case then why shouldn't he do the same with Pihu? ESPECIALLY when Ishita was dead in the most awful manner..why won't Raman hide that fact.

And again..what should they tell the kid now..dead mom back ..but she was hiding..how difficult is it to explain and put a child through that torture which i why it needs careful handling. Not a mess like what Ruhi went through.

If you say Ishita's mamta came out at the hospital then wrong time, wrong place and not consiustent she still told Mani and all, that she would leave with them. And if you compere then that makes Ishita same as Shagun..both chose to stay away from their kids for their own reasons? What difference be there then?

Raman can only mend something if it exists. Ishita is the one who has to decide if she wants to have any contact with Pihu as Maasi, Aunty or Mom ever with Pihu. Her decision then she needs to tell this to Raman and work in mending it together.

EDIT_ Do you want a 3rd unknown party to tell Pihu about her real mom and then she does searching and gets locked up? Nope..then 3 adults need to sit together. Especially Ishita , she needs to tell if she ever wants Pihu to know about her or be content with being Massi. That tho conflicts with Ruhi situation.

Not just a "Raman mess". It's Ishita's mess first.

just wondering how Pihu became Ishitas mess? Did she ask for surrogacy? No right?

All good points @ramishi👏👏👏

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

just wondering how Pihu became Ishitas mess? Did she ask for surrogacy? No right?

Did she anytime request Shags be surrogate mom? No right?

On whose insistence or rather deception Pihu came into this world? Raman right?

Whom Raman blamed for saving her own daughter while killing his daughter? Ishita right?

So when its Ishitas mess why he kept Pihu with him? Why didn't he throw her out to die along with Ishita? Now why is he keeping Pihu with him and shags when its Ishitas mess while he is also keeping his other two kids with him?

Just curious on Pihu is Ishitas mess comment. Not trying to bash.

Originally posted by: rose1000

Pihu exists because of Raman and Shagun. It was those two who went behind Ishita's back and did the surrogacy. When Ishita came to know about it, Shagun was already pregnant. What options did Ishita have? Abortion . and that does not go with Ishita's character. Also, people would have vilified Ishita for hurting Raman although it was Ishita who was hurt.

Another point...Raman did not tell the truth to Pihu because if Pihu had gotten to know that Raman's words were the reason for Ishu's death, she would have hated Raman.

Third, there was no need to play ghar ghar with Shagun. Toshiji and Simmi had taken care of Ruhi. They would have taken care of Pihu too.

So again Raman committed the blunder of letting Shagun stay at the Bhalla house.

So Pihu is not Ishita's mess. Pihu is Raman and Shagun's mess.

Just my POV.

Originally posted by: ishrafan_us

just wondering how Pihu became Ishitas mess? Did she ask for surrogacy? No right?

Nope and she should have divorced Raman then and there if she wanted to but she liked the idea. She approved of it and was thankful to Shagun - so yes , she chose to be the parent at that moment and an accomplice to the pregnancy .

I would have supported her if she would have kicked Raman out but she didn't she went on to be friends with Shagun and was eager for this baby , and considered herself as the mother. Hence it was her responsibility to rtaise the kid

Did she anytime request Shags be surrogate mom? No right?

On whose insistence or rather deception Pihu came into this world? Raman right?

Deception yes but a accepted decision by Ishita , the adult. She recognizes the kid and she wanted the baby too..no ? Oh yeah didn't see Ishita fretting about the death of her choice..she was happy..I would have been pleased with her fighting for her womb but she was happy and willing part of it now.

Whom Raman blamed for saving her own daughter while killing his daughter? Ishita right?

Yeah divorce the guy for all I say..but she didn't..she chose to do suicide ..which is a criminal offence and there is no court which will give her custody in real life . After 2 attempts.

So when its Ishitas mess why he kept Pihu with him?

You wanted him to throw the baby around? Or donate it to someone?😆

Why didn't he throw her out to die along with Ishita? Now why is he keeping Pihu with him and shags when its Ishitas mess while he is also keeping his other two kids with him?

Yeah he should have thrown the kid ..because hey thats the conflict. It's his fault he raised the baby..he shouldn't have totally turned a murderer then and there

Just curious on Pihu is Ishitas mess comment. Not trying to bash.

Here's to your curiousity. Baby was willing or not, Ishita decided to be the parent and then she ditched the baby, Adi and her family for 7 years. If she wants to be back..she needs to be sure on her own as a mother, first.

Is it too hard to wrap your head that cvs screwed her over by not showing any longing or her attempts at checking on her kids- which is anti-Ishita's characters.

No offence i agree that if they disclose ishita's identity to pihu, pihu will be heart broken but then raman and shagun could have made her understand that they are there with her and shagun is her mom...because disclosing ishita's identity doesn't mean pihu will loose the mother in shagun...upto the age of 5 it is understandable for hiding the truth but after that i think they should have told her the truth as pihu's school education will start and so ishita will loose her status of pihu's mom officially too and that actually happened as the school authority doesn't know pihu's real mom's name... one more question although i can never agree that surrogacy can remove one's baanjh tag but going by the CVs logic...raman wanted this baby solely for ishita as he wanted to remove her baanjh tag so that no one can ever call her baanjh but going by the current story i doubt apart from bhallas and iyers anyone from outside knows that pihu is actually ishita's daughter and it is all because raman never let anyone know the truth to keep it as a secret to pihu...so will anyone ever know ishita was not a baanjh actually and she has her own biological child?...isn't it denying ishita the respect she deserved from the society?...No offence to anyone its just my POV

Originally posted by: ramishi

No offence i agree that if they disclose ishita's identity to pihu, pihu will be heart broken but then raman and shagun could have made her understand that they are there with her and shagun is her mom...because disclosing ishita's identity doesn't mean pihu will loose the mother in shagun...upto the age of 5 it is understandable for hiding the truth but after that i think they should have told her the truth as pihu's school education will start and so ishita will loose her status of pihu's mom officially too and that actually happened as the school authority doesn't know pihu's real mom's name... one more question although i can never agree that surrogacy can remove one's baanjh tag but going by the CVs logic...raman wanted this baby solely for ishita as he wanted to remove her baanjh tag so that no one can ever call her baanjh but going by the current story i doubt apart from bhallas and iyers anyone from outside knows that pihu is actually ishita's daughter and it is all because raman never let anyone know the truth to keep it as a secret to pihu...so will anyone ever know ishita was not a baanjh actually and she has her own biological child?...isn't it denying ishita the respect she deserved from the society?...No offence to anyone its just my POV

Originally posted by: GBSC

Seriously ,only a DNA test can decide the child's biological parents.

Ishu was rejected by Raman at the time of pihu's birth.

Even now he has not said that it is Ishu's right or duty to come as a parent for the ptm.

Neither did he introduce Ishu to a knowledgable teacher.

Now Ishu does not want the teacher or other parents to ask pihu about who Ishu is to pihu

Ishu will reveal her identity to pihu and the society only when pihu is ready for it.

Maybe even never.Pihu's feelings are the only reason for it.Raman's part will also be the same.

Why not let things be as they are.

Ishu does not mind it.

Raman too wants pihu to be ready for it.

This is what happens with adoption too.

But the major difference is Ishu is present right there.Whileas in adoption the biological parents are never anywhere near the kid.Ever.Now that Ishu is rt in front of pihu day in and day out,the rule changes.

Hence it is the moral duty of the biological parents to share this info about pihu's parentage IN THE PRESENCE OF SHAGUN and other siblings and elders.It should happen ASAP.

The old unsavoury past is always set aside.Pihu deserves this clarification in her life,as Ishu is not dead any longer.

Originally posted by: ramishi

I am not saying this is the right time to disclose ishita's identity to pihu but what i was trying to say is that they could have disclosed it earlier when they presumed ishita as dead and still could have assure her that shagun is her mom now and will be there always...and now coming to how to disclose the truth to her...i agree that all three of them( ishita , raman and shagun) need to work it together else it will have some adverse effect on pihu.