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Posted: 9 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: KP.ISHRA

I feel mr bhalla said something to raman.honestly speaking they want to show both ishitha and shagun correct in their own way,in this process they made raman villain



Raman is a villain?? 😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: DivanIshraru

dt is going on vacation frm 5 to 15
so,I also don't think we wl gt much of ishra or light hearted moments
I feel during DT's vacation, we gt raman's pov clearly
although expecting raman's pov is sin bt m ready to go to hell😆

the main prblm of bashing raman is no raman pov yet..i dont know y cvs r not showing his pov his feeling wen everyone has gotten so many monologues ...i wish v get raman's pov during dt's absence bt i hv zero hopes now... 🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: charminggenie


Pihu is a young kid . She needs 3 people who will mutually decide to talk and be on same page-Raman, Ishita, and Shagun. If Ishita wants to come back to Pihu's life, it should be a decision indepependent of her wanting to be with Raman or it makes her love for Pihu conditional. She should talk to Raman that she wants Pihu to atleast know her real mom or discuss what she wants. It's not just Pihu but Ruhi too- the judge is giving custody to Ishita-Raman, not them individually.
It is very important to talk collectively because Shagun might be a bitch but she has been a mom to Pihu. That baby could really suffer alot..hence it's not easy and solely a responsibility of Raman . More so of Ishita because she has lost contact of 7 years and never looked at this kid. So she needs to be proactive.

She can be away from Raman-Shagun and Pihu but she needs to determine what kind of parental role she wants to play in Ruhi, Adi and Pihu's life? We talk of kids being messed up but then Ishita's return or leave will impact them. Raman is a side-product in that.


Raman, can initiate talk about Ishita-Raman equation , he probably will when he comes to know about Mani because he has simmered in longing for her. Thats his to mend.


I agree she needs to clear her role as parents regarding adii and ruhi...but in case of pihu raman needs to take the initiative as he kept ishita identity a secret from pihu and also presented shagun as pihu's mom...another reason is in hospital he denied to recognise ishita as pihu's mom...so i don't think ishita is in a situation to talk about her role in pihu's life...imo
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Posted: 9 years ago
#64
@Sri...no offence but i disagree to the fact almost getting married and declaration of marriage as same because one has turned into reality but the other is yet to happen...ishita knows kids are raman's weakness and he can go to any length for his kids...she knows raman married her for ruhi's sake even when he used to hate her...so she thinks raman can marry shagun even if doesn't loves her as pihu needs shagun...now the question comes why raman didn't marry shagun all these years because to him ishita was dead and so he could have easily married shagun for pihu...ishita needs to think this way but she will not since she doesn't want to do injustice to shagun and pihu...on the other hand raman should also think if ishita really wanted to marry mani then why she didn't do it earlier?..but he won't think this way either...actually CVs have created a very big mess with all the relation specially regarding ishra, shagun and their kids which is not easy to solve until shagun changes her shade...imo
Edited by ramishi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ramishi- Who left 7 years ago? Who chose to turn away from Pihu, at that point there was no Shagun in Ishita's mind. The thought of Shagun raising her kid never came untill now. So , it's her bond and she needs to decide what she wants. This is where Ishita has erred and which is why mending Pihu and her bond is on her , not Raman. He did what he thought was best for his kid, which was Shagun - and that came decently as the kid right now is most stable and has good upbringing.
What Raman said in the hospital was a reality. For Pihu , a young child in a hospital, she needed her parents- Raman and the woman who raised her. Can you imagine a child in hospital at 7 and suddenly he sees "haar wali aunty" instead of the woman she called her mom?
How many times Pihu might have been ill and who cared for her? These are tough , bitter questions which we tend to not ask from Ishita.

Raman absolutely did well keeping Ishita a secret..raising a young new born telling her that her mom did sucide or killed herself is damaging..no doctor would advice it..you only talk to the kid at a stable time frame- at 7 years..no kid is stable or should be to understand all that nonsense..hence careful handling. Not like he goes and tells Pihu that , hey haar wali aunty be your real mom and she is back from dead while she was living elsewhere..that would mess the kid and she might turn into another Shravan.

Ishita needs to show her want for Pihu independent of Raman-Shagun factor . And she needs to stay there irrespective of Raman and her relationship.


Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

Ramishi- Who left 7 years ago? Who chose to turn away from Pihu, at that point there was no Shagun in Ishita's mind. The thought of Shagun raising her kid never came untill now. So , it's her bond and she needs to decide what she wants. This is where Ishita has erred and which is why mending Pihu and her bond is on her , not Raman. He did what he thought was best for his kid, which was Shagun - and that came decently as the kid right now is most stable and has good upbringing.

What Raman said in the hospital was a reality. For Pihu , a young child in a hospital, she needed her parents- Raman and the woman who raised her. Can you imagine a child in hospital at 7 and suddenly he sees "haar wali aunty" instead of the woman she called her mom?
How many times Pihu might have been ill and who cared for her? These are tough , bitter questions which we tend to not ask from Ishita.

Raman absolutely did well keeping Ishita a secret..raising a young new born telling her that her mom did sucide or killed herself is damaging..no doctor would advice it..you only talk to the kid at a stable time frame- at 7 years..no kid is stable or should be to understand all that nonsense..hence careful handling. Not like he goes and tells Pihu that , hey haar wali aunty be your real mom and she is back from dead while she was living elsewhere..that would mess the kid and she might turn into another Shravan.

Ishita needs to show her want for Pihu independent of Raman-Shagun factor . And she needs to stay there irrespective of Raman and her relationship.


I am not saying ishita was right in staying away all these 7 years but was it really necessary to keep ishita's identity a secret...he could have told her any other reason of ishita 's death...telling her she committed suicide was not necessary...here raman actually denied ishita the right as mother because he was unaware about ishita's existence so he could have at least gave her this much right since he wanted this kid only for her and could have told pihu her mother died due to accident or something...because i think telling the truth is much better than creating a web of lie around her...because one day she will surely come to know and heart break is inevitable.
Now coming to making shagun as pihu's mom...yes if you see pihu's condition we can say it was a wise decision...but my question is many kids looses their parents at an early age and if suppose someone dies during child birth will you still support the husband to hide the real mother's identity and making someone else as his kids mother?...and from raman's action do you think he had any intention of telling pihu the truth even if ishita is not found alive...i don't think so...no offence to you its just my POV
Edited by ramishi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramishi- Imagine having that conversation with a 1 year old , 2 year or 3 year old. There are good fathers or mothers who sometimes marry other people if one of the parents leave. There are healthy happy kids who are raised by different people and not biological parents because they don't want to know about their real parent. So many celebs , real life people do that. it's how one copes with the situation.
Raman went through 2 losses - one of a wife and a child. He probably would have shared info at 18, or earlier or never. It was his prerogative as the only single parent of that kid. it's not a disrespect of Ishita but a way of protecting his kid. I get that. You might think it was a disservice to Ishita, it wasn't . And then there were Ishita's parents, sisters - who probably too decided to not share the secret ..or they would have taken to the Court for their reclaim on Pihu , if this was reality. But considering they all- bhallas, Iyers and Raman hid it , they did best given the circumstances.

Here's another scenario , what if adult Pihu bumped into haar wali aunty in australia or anywhere ever? Can you imagine her anger at Ishita for hiding and staying away?
Not easy either ways.

I support a single parent who would do anything to give a normal stable household to his child...Just that. Raman did that with Pihu.

He never intended to marry Shagun before Ishita came back. Clearly when Pihu would have grown and understood the nature of Raman-Shagun dynamics , she would have asked around and got her own answers. Because when she would have grown up, hit her teens..she would have understood the weirdness of this arrangement. You see what he was doing..raising the kid, till the baby was mature enough to understand the relationships around her.


3 people, again, need to sit TOGETHER . Not Raman alone, Not Ishita alone and Shagun should, ideally be included . if this news is to be broken to Pihu.

But this is fiction.


Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Ramishi- Who left 7 years ago? Who chose to turn away from Pihu, at that point there was no Shagun in Ishita's mind. The thought of Shagun raising her kid never came untill now. So , it's her bond and she needs to decide what she wants. This is where Ishita has erred and which is why mending Pihu and her bond is on her , not Raman. He did what he thought was best for his kid, which was Shagun - and that came decently as the kid right now is most stable and has good upbringing.

What Raman said in the hospital was a reality. For Pihu , a young child in a hospital, she needed her parents- Raman and the woman who raised her. Can you imagine a child in hospital at 7 and suddenly he sees "haar wali aunty" instead of the woman she called her mom?
How many times Pihu might have been ill and who cared for her? These are tough , bitter questions which we tend to not ask from Ishita.

Raman absolutely did well keeping Ishita a secret..raising a young new born telling her that her mom did sucide or killed herself is damaging..no doctor would advice it..you only talk to the kid at a stable time frame- at 7 years..no kid is stable or should be to understand all that nonsense..hence careful handling. Not like he goes and tells Pihu that , hey haar wali aunty be your real mom and she is back from dead while she was living elsewhere..that would mess the kid and she might turn into another Shravan.

Ishita needs to show her want for Pihu independent of Raman-Shagun factor . And she needs to stay there irrespective of Raman and her relationship.



Very well put👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

@Ramishi- Imagine having that conversation with a 1 year old , 2 year or 3 year old. There are good fathers or mothers who sometimes marry other people if one of the parents leave. There are healthy happy kids who are raised by different people and not biological parents because they don't want to know about their real parent. So many celebs , real life people do that. it's how one copes with the situation.

Raman went through 2 losses - one of a wife and a child. He probably would have shared info at 18, or earlier or never. It was his prerogative as the only single parent of that kid. it's not a disrespect of Ishita but a way of protecting his kid. I get that. You might think it was a disservice to Ishita, it wasn't . And then there were Ishita's parents, sisters - who probably too decided to not share the secret ..or they would have taken to the Court for their reclaim on Pihu , if this was reality. But considering they all- bhallas, Iyers and Raman hid it , they did best given the circumstances.

Here's another scenario , what if adult Pihu bumped into haar wali aunty in australia or anywhere ever? Can you imagine her anger at Ishita for hiding and staying away?
Not easy either ways.

I support a single parent who would do anything to give a normal stable household to his child...Just that. Raman did that with Pihu.

He never intended to marry Shagun before Ishita came back. Clearly when Pihu would have grown and understood the nature of Raman-Shagun dynamics , she would have asked around and got her own answers. Because when she would have grown up, hit her teens..she would have understood the weirdness of this arrangement. You see what he was doing..raising the kid, till the baby was mature enough to understand the relationships around her.


3 people, again, need to sit TOGETHER . Not Raman alone, Not Ishita alone and Shagun should, ideally be included . if this news is to be broken to Pihu.

But this is fiction.


But ruhi was also of the same age as pihu when she came to know about shagun as her mother but still she didn't felt that much heart break and later accepted ishita as her mother...so why can't raman disclose to pihu that she also has one more mother?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Because Ruhi's mom was alive and same town and Adi was her bhai who was frequent with Bhallas.
There is a big difference between a dead person and a living person.

Coping death is different than coping separation especially when Raman shared another kid with Shagun, who was living with her.

And the custody case was filed by Shagun for Ruhi .
Ruhi knew about her mom Shagun , because she was there- namesake and through Adi and other reasons. Ishita wasn't , nor in name , nor in city but dead.Custody battle.


Again- Raman cannot tell Pihu till Ishita decides to have some part of Pihu's life. You are missing a very big point that Ishita in 7 years never wanted to see Pihu, never did she wanted to stay now for Pihu ..it's about either uniting family or Ruhi.
Shagun thing is an excuse...Ishita had no way of knowing that during the time she away.
This is a big factor for Ishita alone.

So , it's upto Ishita to decide if she wants to stick around , be with Pihu_Ruhi, even if there be Shagun then she needs to communicate.




Edited by charminggenie - 9 years ago

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