Im too Dark for Bollywood: Freida Pinto - Page 19

Originally posted by: atominis

Subha

There are many topics on this in Suggestions and Comments section.

But it seems the admin himself is an NRI and doesn't care.

My friend had once compiled list of India bashing threads and posted links as proof but even then mods took no action, in another forum we were part of on IF.

It's ridiculous. Often I have not responded but simply hit Report button but it's been useless as no action was taken.

The only times a mod acts promptly it's when a particular religion or country is in discussion. Or even appeasing fan groups is more crucial than tackling country, populace bashing threads.

India Forums is India only in name. 🤢

Originally posted by: Cutiepie Rani

Um that is not true. Don't generalize all NRIs because not all are that way. Some, maybe. But all, not at all. It is certain that they will have different viewpoints compared to those born and raised in India. But that does not mean they will believe everything against India. Truth is that those of us that were born and raised in a country other than India will never really understand the country as it is understood by those born and brought up in India. That's true, I agree. But I love our country despite being born and raised in the US. But its not a perfect country and neither is America. Both have their flaws. Neither is perfect. 

On topic, it is true that skin tone plays a factor sometimes. I know so many 'auntie's' here make comments about skin color...'She's dark...he's dark..." etc etc. Surely has a factor. But if she got rejected because of her 'dark skin tone' what about those actresses who have naturally 'dark skin color.' You have to have the talent too...you can't agree that you're not accepted because you're not 'Indian enough'. That is lame. She had potential when she acted in Jai Ho. But after that she's gone downhill. Sweetheart, you must know how to act in order to be accepted into the industry. The likes of Rani, Kajol, and others know the 'ACT' in actress and therefore have been very successful during their prime despite not being the ideal 'fair and skinny.' 

Originally posted by: LakshmiMata

Hollywood discriminates as well. Majority of 'successful' actors are probably still white. Neither is a perfect industry. Hollywood is more of a global platform whereas Bollywood is for a regional audience. I don't see the problem cause both industries have exceptions who go against the I'm too dark for this role. 

Originally posted by: .Subha.

Just yesterday,i read a news about a 1 year old kid shot dead by his 3 year old brother.I can't call all American parents careless and irresponsible because of this incident.

Originally posted by: Cutiepie Rani

Vijay ji, btw, is not an NRI. He's in India.

I don't think you understand the point of 'India' forums. I've read your conversations in that topic in the suggestions and comments forum. Look, honestly you or I can't dictate who will visit the site. Many more facilities are available to those outside of India. Plus in India you have a thousand ways to keep up with your favorite shows, etc - you have word of mouth, you have many people you can discuss with, you have many re-runs, life in India basically to sum it all up is social. In other countries, that is not the case. Hence you see more NRIs visiting this site to keep up and discuss their favorite shows. Its also easier for NRIs to have access to the Internet more often, depending on where in India you live in. The 'India' in India-forums is there because this entire site is based on the country itself - Bollywood, INDIAN shows (with a few American), INDIAN reality shows - pretty much the theme is India. How can you control users? If you make the language settings to Hindi you'll lose over half the population here because not everyone can read/write that language. That's highly unfair. You're making it limited to those in India alone. You see less people from India visiting here because of restrictions or simply because they don't feel the need to. There's so much social life in India already that people find out about their favorite shows their their circle of family/friends. In other countries you have to rely on website/forums. Also India's show times don't always coincide with international show times. So people come to check updates on sites like India-Forums because the show is already aired in India. You have to understand the purpose of these forums. Its not limited to only NRIs or only India-based individuals. How would you suggest the admin to bring in more members from India?

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

But you would be fair in saying USA has a serious gun control problem or say USA needs to better address these tragedies. 

Yes, there are people who want to trash India blindly. That perspective is wrong. But sometimes I feel that criticisms that India has an "X" problem, even if said out of genuine concern, seems to be taken as an attack on India. 

I'm not saying people should not react when people unfairly make generalizations or intentionally bash, but I think we need a slightly more balance before dismissing all critical statements. Perhaps clarify intent before assuming? And yes, I do admit that both sides have to do it. 

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

@Genie 

I'm not denying that Freida is not credible here. In my experience, it does appear that people seem to be dismissive of "fairness" issue in topics. People seem to be hesitant to accept that it is a deep rooted problem entrenched in both Bollywood and society.  I'm not denying that image and credibility matters as well. My only point is the issue shouldn't be brushed aside simply because the spokesperson is broken. While the first reaction is to dismiss, it isn't unreasonable to try and focus on the "issue" not the "celebrity". 

I'm a big dork though. I reduce everything to "issues". Considering this is "Bollywood" section, there is nothing wrong in the "celebrity" view as long as it doesn't bleed into the issue beyond the section. That is something only each member can decide. 

As for the NRI vs Indians, it is inevitable. They often tend to be two completely different perspectives. One is viewing India from within and one from outside, the image is different. Eventually, hopefully, both sides can come to a consensus. After all to win any war you need both the birds eye view and the view from the trenches.