Jalal: is love enough?

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I have to start by mentioning Rajat Tokas first ... Is he just 22? Amazing actor...world class... A lot of us felt yesterday that Paridhi's acting in yesterday's episode was far superior to his... Now I know that he was saving his energy to deliver this masterpiece.
Beautifully executed dargah scene. Took my breath away.👏

Now let us talk about Jalal...It is so sweet to see that, thanks to the confession at Dargah, he has been forgiven by most forum waasis for his lack of trust in Jodha, her repeated public humiliation and finally a subdued reponse to her sacrifice in yesterday's episode.

Like most other forum members, I too was a little surprised and disappointed with his reaction after the poison ingestion scene. Remember how distraught he was after Rukkiya's MC, Bakshi Bano's betrayal and possible Maham betrayal... I was expecting a somewhat similar emotional reaction. However, i would have forced myself to ignore the subdued/ controlled response to her impending death, had I seen him get into a 'crisis management mode'...don't forget, he is an emperor first...But yesterday his hostage negotiation and emergency managment skills were not at all impressive considering the fact that he's been an Emperor for 8 yrs... He was able to do some damage control today. Finally grilling Zakira and getting the truth out of her was praiseworthy...ability to think rationally in midst of a crisis...very Emporer like... Supporting Rukkiya's decision to kill Ben right away...not so smart...please get information out her first...after all Abul Mali is still missing. Does he have a back up plan? Who else is involved? We are talking about Mughal dynasty... Backstabbers were in abundance...they should have questioned her about Abul Mali's possible whereabouts and if Mirza Hakim, his mother Mahachuchak begum or even the commander Munim Khan had anything to do with all this. Jalal's FBI and CIA have a long way to go.
I too loved the Dargah scene today but it did not move me to tears...I guess, I am in minority today and do have a heart of a monster. My requirements for forgiveness are different. Don't get me wrong...I love Jalal's character just as much as I love Jodha's. I end up defending Jodha more because unlike Jalal, she get attacked from all fronts, Jalal, harem waasis, jail waasis as well as forum wasis...so I am forced to get my narnaal ( with baarood) out and stand right next to her. But as far as loneliness and betrayals are concerned, I have a much bigger and softer corner for Jalal.. Not that Jodha's situation is a whole lot better.

Jalal's confession to God that he can't live without Jodha been interpreted beautifully in different ways in the few posts I was able to read today. To some people, it is not the same as a confession of love. To some, this is an expression of gulit mixed with love. They all were able to justify their stand very well in their respective posts.

My thoughts on this...saying that he cant live without her, means that he loves her...a lot...nothing else. Does it really mean that if she dies, he will die too...I hope not...he is certainly not a quitter and will not run away from his responsibilities towards other people in his life. He will grieve for a very long time but will continue to fulfill his role as an emperor, a husband, a son and finally will force himself to move on. Those of us who have lost a loved one know how true this is...when we think that we won't be able to live without someone...it means we love them...a lot. We grieve, break down but dont die, just gather our strength, pick ourselves up and move on...law of nature.

Therefore, in my opinion, today he said ' I love Jodha' to God and himself. I was happy to see that. This will later bring him immense peace...to her too, when she comes to know.

So why did my heart not melt today? Because, there is only one way this love can transform into happiness for both of them. Not sure how well he'll be able to do that...too many villians including his imperial ego...He has to give her what she craves the most...respect ...nothing short of that will do. This confession will not mean anything if after Jodha wakes up, he yells at her again... in public. This woman who values her honor more than her life, gets humiliated again and again...not just by him but others as well ( worse, with his silent consent)...No ''ishq wala love' confession, no matter how genuine it is , is worth anything if not supported by actions. I am not saying that he hasn't been good to her...but being good 70 percent of the time and spending the rest 30 percent time humiliating the object of your affection to breaking point, can never result in a healthy relationship with complete union of souls and bodies that he craves to have with her .( whether she 'deserves' the humiliation as pointed out by some people or her fault in all this ...will discuss in another post)

Statastics show that most spouse abusers believe that they ' love' their partner. Still they hurt them emotionally, verbally or physically. In their mind, their love for the other person justifies a lot things they do. Understanding human emotions is complicated and this fact does not change over centuries. Disclaimer: I just used an example and did not call Jalal (or Jodha ) a spouse abuser...so please, dont use your narnaal😊

His admission of his feelings for Jodha is a huge step ...I agree...but to me, love is an overrated emotion if not combined with respect as a package deal. The argument that this was 16th century is not good enough. We can't generalize these things...just like we cant generalize anything about treatment of women in 21st century. Agreed, women in 16 th century had very limited rights...but were they always powerless and subjected to ill treatment ? ...no...16th century women did not throw tantrums...says who?...some women held important positions like Mahamanga and Mahachuchak begum from Akbars era... Infact, in those days a woman's honor ( that too a royal woman's ) was more important than her life or even the lives of their loved ones. Thousands prefered dying in a battle to save the honor of their women. History is replete with examples like Rani Padmini of Chiittor. I hope they show Baaj Bahadur- Roopmati's love story briefly before Adham Khan gets killed.
I don't really care if he doesn't say 'I am sorry' to Jodha... Sometimes that is not needed between people who share a deep bond each other. These two certainly do. Also, i don't want to see a crying Jalal anymore. Nor do I want to see a love stricken Romeo. I just want to see a loving, sensible and protective husband. The Harem dynamics need to be changed ASAP because CVs are going to restore Rukkiya to her default mode very soon. Maham is not going anywhere for now. If nothing changes then we will continue to be forced to enjoy nothing but harem politics and 'Operation Jodha Humiliation' for few more months...not sure about you guys, but I need a break from incessant negativity!

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Cleo12345 thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am also eager to see SD's reaction to Jodha's condition. Does he have any non- lustful feelings for her as well? If he does, it will make Jalal-SD-Jodha track more interesting.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345

I am also eager to see SD's reaction to Jodha's condition. Does he have any non- lustful feelings for her as well? If he does, it will make Jalal-SD-Jodha track more interesting.




nice post dear


but i wanna ask do u really think sharrif loves jodha??????????????

becoz i can only see lust in his eyes😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I thought I was the only one who thinks Love is an overrated emotion. So glad to find you saying it.


I initially suspect all emotional outbursts because that's just an overflow of too many mixed up feelings, very rarely the clear picture.


If Jalal the Emperor wants to play the role of a lover , then he better be prepared for heart ache. It just goes with the territory. So saying he can't live without her is fine, as long as he doesn't mean it literally. He will get over her loss. Of course she's not going to die. And that's when the actual get-real Love Story starts. A romance isn't one sided. Jalal will have to react to what he gets from Jodha. What if she sticks to Kartavya as her side of love. Then Jalal will have to accept it with good grace and keep loving her the way he said he does yesterday. He will just have to be glad she's alive and he can set eyes on her everyday. That should be the respect she gets.


After all this drama, Jalal is not going to demand anything from her. I don't even know if he wants to demand an explanation from her. He accepts the blame for both the circumstances and his peevish behaviour that forced Jodha to find a two-in-one solution - save his life and leave for good. 😆


When she wakes and finds a remorseful Jalal, I know she will want him to not let go of his dignity. Love, whatever that might mean, can wait.


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Originally posted by: happygolucky099




nice post dear


but i wanna ask do u really think sharrif loves jodha??????????????

becoz i can only see lust in his eyes😡


I don't think he loves her...but I may be wrong. He got a chance to know Jodha as a person during Ben Track... He was clearly jealous of the fact that Jodha loves Jalal... Which made me think that the CVs want to show than the lust factor...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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buddy i too agree wid all d points here😊jallus words yday made evryone including me melt my heart wid his confession to god dat he cant liv widout her which v all r longing to listen from him for 7 months.s wat u said is crct jo needs respect from jallu and other agra waasis at this time more than love n care for the insults she faced til now so dnt want ny more humilitions to jo...jallu shud really think how one dhakka incident lost trust on jo and lead to this extreme situation n he shud now b in jo place n think how jo faced all burden humilitions insults for him and yet faced evrythng silently just to save him...aftr dis incident definitely maham wont keep silent and she wil plot again wid ruks or alone so jallu shud support jo from nowonwards n shud trust her respect her more than loving her...if he yells at her again der is no meaning for his confession(hope he wnt do this again)...i dnt know how far this will happen ..is it possible for jo without facing insults from everyone?until maham and hakim mom(new villian)wil b der i dnt think its possible..so its at this time jallu shud stand for jo n shud suport her from this harem politics and become protective loving husband...😊coming to jo wen she recovers and comes to know dat he cried n prayed for her she wil erase all his dnt want to see evn if u r dyin words of jallu and other insults from her heart and she indeed cant see remorseful jallu as v saw in bakshi matter...and by the time all dese happens jo wil b overtakin her kartavya word to love 😆n jallu wil forget humare pas dil nahi hai 😆and i hav faith aftr their confession of love in future jo wil love him more than jallu loves her...😊 as bakshi las alredy entered in scenes im hopin sharif jallu jo track wil b der...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345


I don't think he loves her...but I may be wrong. He got a chance to know Jodha as a person during Ben Track... He was clearly jealous of the fact that Jodha loves Jalal... Which made me think that the CVs want to show than the lust factor...


that could be the next track

shariff lusting jodha😡




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Posted: 11 years ago
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I strongly believe his reaction is more of guilt than love. I will believe he loves her when he puts his words in action. Mere words don't change anything. And never will.
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totally agree
for me the day Jalal believes Jhoda with out any proof,not just doubt but believe is the day i know he truly loves her...it shows trust,respect and acceptance...even in love there can be things that can go wrong but if one have above three factors love can be regained again or with love one can regain above three,it is debate that never ends
Shareef can not even come close to the feeling of Jalal but yeah it can be interesting...
i always felt more for Jhoda than Jalal coz i dont know what Jalal feels is the way he want to feel but what Jhoda feels is the way she had to feel...but i hope they dont show a petty Jhoda who is angry on remorseful Jalal for not listening to her,coz i think he did tried his best...we cant even blame him for not trying but yeah but for not trusting we can blame him,i am like on cloud 9 when Jalal is on Jhoda side in Adham Khan issue or child marriage thing
p.s about him saying not able to live with out her,its not like he will die but he wont live either,the a part of his soul dies with Jhoda but he live coz he have to live,atleast that's what i thought
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Originally posted by: ann2012

I strongly believe his reaction is more of guilt than love. I will believe he loves her when he puts his words in action. Mere words don't change anything. And never will.


I am so glad to find supporters here... I was expecting most people to disagree with me...being in love is a great feeling but love without respect can't be acceptable...I was never a big fan of alpha male manhandling pretty damsel love stories .

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