A show with three-dimensional characters: Ishaan did good today

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

Stunner

Posted: 11 years ago

Today's episode Ishaan's attempts didn't annoy me, rather melted my heart. I am not ignoring his previous mistakes and how he himself is partly responsible for this mess. But I am looking at it in the current situation.

I don't blame Samrat for a lot of things. (In fact i don't hate his character. I enjoy him as a character, and there are times I love him for his lines on practicality, his reactions to certain things, etc.) I don't blame Samrat for not believing in Rasams, I don't blame him for his emotional unavailability because I feel he's never hid it and Ishaan covered for him. But here, today, I do blame him for not even bothering to pick up Urmi. That being said, I am glad he didn't as he's true to his character, and is one of the many things Urmi, her family and his own family will witness in this marriage.

Ishaan today did the best he could to make the family and Urmi not feel hurt. Did he lie? Yes. Did he go overboard? Yes. Is it really any different from his previous lies which I blame him for? No. But still, in this situation--leaving aside that he himself is partly responsible for the situation--he relieved her family from hurt, and later made Urmi smile and laugh.

Which brings me to Urmi.. I am not going to go into a long post on Urmi or how I feel she too has been blind and had many signs. I've been meaning to write about how Urmi's not being a total naive victim--but one who's made her own mistakes, i.e basically herself proving to Samrat that she would put him over Trisha; choosing to ignore the signs staring her right in the face--makes this show more easier to watch.

See, i don't know whether or not I would be able to watch the show as I am able to now if Urmi were totally and completely an unwitting victim. Instead, the fact that she too has can be blamed somewhat makes it easier to watch this show.

Does this mean she deserves all that's happening? No, but it also makes the characters and the story more real, with more depth and layers.

And that's why this is the one show I am really invested in right now. The one show I somehow caught after I had sworn off Hindi serials for their regressive messages; for their unreal characterizations; for their ridiculous and insane plot twists. But yet this show pulled me back in. I don't know how long this journey with DAK will last. I don't have much faith int his industry--I see progressive stories scrapped, or ridiculous plot twists for the sake of ratings, channel interference, creative see-saw, etc etc. But however long this show continues to impress me, I will be a loyal watcher.

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Today for the first time I thought that there really is scope in the story for Ishaan/Urmi. For the first time I found myself seeing the possibilities and even liking them as a pairing. If this were about two decades ago, it would be easier to believe that perhaps the story really will take this turn. But Hindi television has regressed rather than progressed. So the chances of this ending with Urmi/Samrat living out a happy married life are high. Because apparently marriage (and consummation) is IT. Or, if two people are leads, that is IT. They will eventually overcome all and live happily ever after. But hey, maybe I am wrong. And maybe this show will be different.

Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago

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mohabhi

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Posted: 11 years ago

I agree for the part that love samrat..nd only thing I feel is nw enough of crying..

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Dolly-heart

@Dolly-heart

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Posted: 11 years ago

Great Post Liks.

There are some points I agree with and some I do have a problem with.

Your three -dimensional characters is true in this show.

Having said that there is a point where Ishaan should know by now through this whole wedding that what he has done to cover up SamRAT's rudeness and insensitivity to all will hurt Urmi and her family in the long run.

SamRAT is what he is , I do not have a problem with that if he only had the decency to stop Ishaan from constantly making excuses for him.

SamRAT not liking Rasams is also fine if he had the guts to state that fact honestly to all of Urmi's family and let the chips fall where they may. But no he went along with all of it and chooses to make a big issue of it behind all his in-laws.

When it came to pick up his wife whether it was a Rasam or not it should have been the right thing to do for him to go and pick her up but here again he put his want before his new bride. That is just rude for not caring of her feeling at all.

If his emotional unavailability was shown to Urmi and her family honestly which he never did to them by letting Ishaan's excuses stand without protest of admitting through the whole wedding that he is not like what Ishaan keeps telling everyone then I would give him his credit due. But he did not.

Where Urmi is concerned she has been told by her mother how to act and behave as a wife from day one. So of course she is going to put SamRAT above everyone even Trishna.

Urmi has had doubts concerning SamRAT but she chooses to ignore them as for that she will have to pay a price and blame herself for it.

I do not see Urmi as a victim at all more a young girl with a filmy fantasy that when she matures and sees the real SamRAT for what he is will need to make a self preserving decision whether to stay and try to change him or understand that it is impossible and make the decision to move on.

How the CV's handle this young girl growing into a woman in standing up for her rights in the marriage is going to show us whether this show is progressive or is in this just for TRP's and the same old twists and inane plots.

Trishna coming back into the show will give us another look at how Urmi and SamRAT treat her. I do not care to see Ishaan with Trishna. I hope they have somebody better than Ishaan for her who lives in the real world and not a fantasy land and cannot see past his make believe world.

Excuse me for the long diatribe.

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aggarwalrachna

@aggarwalrachna

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Posted: 11 years ago

what do you think which jodi last forever and look sweet..in doli armanon ki...😳

THIS ...SAMRAT AND URMI...😆

ISHAAN AND URMI ..THIS...😳

I WANT YOUR SUGGESTION GUYS...I REALLY DONT LIKE SAMRATH AND URMI ..BUT IF YOU LIKE THEM..PLS..DISCUSS WHY AND HOW..OR IF YOU LIKE ISHAAN AND URMI JODI...

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sashusa

@sashusa

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Posted: 11 years ago

Well...this has been discussed before. As show was promoted as Samrat and Urmi as a lead...so they are the leads. As I got hooked up with the show, I got involved as sam and Urmi as couple. Now they are married as what I believe in...if urmi is paired with ishan later..it won't like it. Sam is not a bad person who can not be changed. Urmi will get that power to change him slowly. So after samur's marriage I will never think about urmi and Ishan's pair up. That won't agree with my values once person is married. Exception will be if one of them gets physically tortured. I really liked urmi's mom's teachings that things does not happen according to one's dreams...it does not make the other person bad. I hope Urmi follows her mom's teachings...and smartly change sam.

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snowy72

@snowy72

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Posted: 11 years ago

"The only person you can change is yourself." I don't understand this idea of Urmi CHANGING Samrat. In a real relationship, one needs to accept the other person as is. If you go into a relationship thinking you will change the other person, you will be in for a HUGE disappointment. Sure, a couple needs to compromise and learn to adapt to each other's personality but to expect a partner to CHANGE according to your "ideals" is unrealistic.

The idea that Samrat will change into Ishaan is just ridiculous. Samrat is Samrat and Ishaan is Ishaan. If Urmi cannot accept Samrat for who he is then she can move onto Ishaan or someone else.

If she decides to stay with Samrat, she doesn't necessarily have to be a doormat. She needs to learn to figure out a way to COMMUNICATE with Samrat her desires and wishes. In Samrat's defense, how can we expect him to know Urmi's dreams? She needs to tell him. That's what real couples do -- they communicate.

I understand that this is a TV serial so they have to make everything dramatic. But I hope they show how someone in Urmi's shoes should go about dealing with the situation. I don't want to see a doormat Urmi nor a CHANGED Samrat.

These are my views and I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.

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Dolly-heart

@Dolly-heart

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: snowy72
"The only person you can change is yourself." I don't understand this idea of Urmi CHANGING Samrat. In a real relationship, one needs to accept the other person as is. If you go into a relationship thinking you will change the other person, you will be in for a HUGE disappointment. Sure, a couple needs to compromise and learn to adapt to each other's personality but to expect a partner to CHANGE according to your "ideals" is unrealistic.

The idea that Samrat will change into Ishaan is just ridiculous. Samrat is Samrat and Ishaan is Ishaan. If Urmi cannot accept Samrat for who he is then she can move onto Ishaan or someone else.

If she decides to stay with Samrat, she doesn't necessarily have to be a doormat. She needs to learn to figure out a way to COMMUNICATE with Samrat her desires and wishes. In Samrat's defense, how can we expect him to know Urmi's dreams? She needs to tell him. That's what real couples do -- they communicate.

I understand that this is a TV serial so they have to make everything dramatic. But I hope they show how someone in Urmi's shoes should go about dealing with the situation. I don't want to see a doormat Urmi nor a CHANGED Samrat.

These are my views and I'm sorry if I've offended anyone.

Chandni you have said exactly what I feel that the only person who you can change is yourself.

Why every girl going into an arranged marriage is told you do all the adjusting and all will be well is beyond me.

Whether Urmi can speak her mind in front of SamRAT will be the biggest step forward for her. Will SamRAT let her talk freely and communicate what she was hoping in this marriage and what she is getting is another thing altogether.

This is where I hope the CV's take a bold step into the 21st century and make sure that Urmi is strong and capable of stating to her overconfident husband what her wants and needs are in this marriage.

It needs to be a fair partnership and not "What I say goes. You do as you are told"

Bull crap.

Compromise is good if it is done from both sides and give and take is bound to happen in any relationship. We have to wait and see how these two opposites come to a mutual understanding.

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snowy72

@snowy72

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Dolly-heart

Chandni you have said exactly what I feel that the only person who you can change is yourself.

Why every girl going into an arranged marriage is told you do all the adjusting and all will be well is beyond me.

Whether Urmi can speak her mind in front of SamRAT will be the biggest step forward for her. Will SamRAT let her talk freely and communicate what she was hoping in this marriage and what she is getting is another thing altogether.

This is where I hope the CV's take a bold step into the 21st century and make sure that Urmi is strong and capable of stating to her overconfident husband what her wants and needs are in this marriage.

It needs to be a fair partnership and not "What I say goes. You do as you are told"
Bull crap.

Compromise is good if it is done from both sides and give and take is bound to happen in any relationship. We have to wait and see how these two opposites come to a mutual understanding.

Dolly -- I agree with you that it has to be a mutual understanding and compromise has to be done by BOTH parties. I didn't mean to say that Urmi can't change SamRAT and so should learn to live with whatever he does. I was trying to express that Urmi shouldn't wait around expecting that SamRAT will change.

I also hope that this serial shows something more realistic and not the usual regressive crap. 😊

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butterfly15..

@butterfly15..

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

I too think it's great that the show has realistic characters, but I'm sure it won't last for long.

Samrat will be a romantic, and Urmi will change him. That's how it always ends up.

People can change but not in the drastic way that happens in Indian shows.

I don't mind them showing Samrat being less egoistic, and also caring more about Urmi, and therefore being more considerate about her feelings. That would be realistic as it wouldn't change his basic nature, which is him being a practical man who isn't romantic. You can be loving without being romantic.

But of course they will make him into a complete romantic, thus portraying a woman can completely change a man, which isn't really true, and also that only a man who is romantic can be a good husband, and that if he's practical he's a bad husband.🥱

I guess in a way it's easy for me to accept practicality in a man, as I'm a woman who isn't really that romantic, and I don't need a man who showers me with flowers and candle-lit dinners. Romance is different for everyone, but Indian shows only know the typical way of romance. I prefer someone who would do little things for me, someone who'd care about me, rather than someone who just makes grand gestures on anniversaries/birthdays/valtentines etc.

Lastly a person will only change if they themselves think something is wrong in their actions, someone else can make them realise they are wrong, but it doesn't necessarily mean someone else can change them, they have to make the decision of changing themselves.

Edited by butterfly15.. - 11 years ago

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Riddhima

@Khushi_Dillse

Dazzler

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: kabeerrachna
what do you think which jodi last forever and look sweet..in doli armanon ki...😳

THIS ...SAMRAT AND URMI...😆
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OR

ISHAAN AND URMI ..THIS...😳

I WANT YOUR SUGGESTION GUYS...I REALLY DONT LIKE SAMRATH AND URMI ..BUT IF YOU LIKE THEM..PLS..DISCUSS WHY AND HOW..OR IF YOU LIKE ISHAAN AND URMI JODI...
...

I like ishaan and urmi jodi...it's like parades movie...ishaan always cover up sam's mistakes and and letter he soon realised his own mistakes he fall for her sure...

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