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Posted: 11 years ago
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Like your Post Likarsh.
What I am doing these days when watching serials, is reminding myself that everyone is different and handle situations differently, it is the end result that really matters if you think about it, and that is Urmi and Samrat growing as individuals in a positive way.

So, I am going to be patient with Samrat and Urmi , as I expect them both to evolve in the wiser directions. Urmi should become more wiser and not look at life through rose coloured glasses and eventually learn to act smart where Samrat is concerned so he does not overpower her and take her identity. Also, Urmi should learn to love Samrat not based on her Ideal of him, but look at the real man and possible make a good difference in his life.

Samrat should learn that he has no control, God does, and learn that even if he does not agree with something, he must have tact, respect and patience with others. In turn he would hopefully learn to love Urmi the way she deserves.

This is what I hope for, and I will also remain loyal to this show, as long as it does not become the typical, unrealistic and overbearing serial.
Edited by dumppurvi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

Like your Post Likarsh.

What I am doing these days when watching serials, is reminding myself that everyone is different and handle situations differently, it is the end result that really matters if you think about it, and that is Urmi and Samrat growing as individuals in a positive way.

So, I am going to be patient with Samrat and Urmi , as I expect them both to evolve in the wiser directions. Urmi should become more wiser and not look at life through rose coloured glasses and eventually learn to act smart where Samrat is concerned so he does not overpower her and take her identity. Also, Urmi should learn to love Samrat not based on her Ideal of him, but look at the real man and possible make a good difference in his life.

Samrat should learn that he has no control, God does, and learn that even if he does not agree with something, he must have tact, respect and patience with others. In turn he would hopefully learn to love Urmi the way she deserves.

This is what I hope for, and I will also remain loyal to this show, as long as it does not become the typical, unrealistic and overbearing serial.


You have chosen a very wise and positive way to deal with situations that really are not under our control.

Lets hope the saying rings true that "Hope Springs Eternal"


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am not ignoring my own topic, I will reply to everyone soon, I have yet to watch Friday's episode. And I haven't gotten a chance to read the last few posts, either. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dolly-heart

Great Post Liks.


There are some points I agree with and some I do have a problem with.

Your three -dimensional characters is true in this show.

Having said that there is a point where Ishaan should know by now through this whole wedding that what he has done to cover up SamRAT's rudeness and insensitivity to all will hurt Urmi and her family in the long run.

SamRAT is what he is , I do not have a problem with that if he only had the decency to stop Ishaan from constantly making excuses for him.

SamRAT not liking Rasams is also fine if he had the guts to state that fact honestly to all of Urmi's family and let the chips fall where they may. But no he went along with all of it and chooses to make a big issue of it behind all his in-laws.

When it came to pick up his wife whether it was a Rasam or not it should have been the right thing to do for him to go and pick her up but here again he put his want before his new bride. That is just rude for not caring of her feeling at all.

If his emotional unavailability was shown to Urmi and her family honestly which he never did to them by letting Ishaan's excuses stand without protest of admitting through the whole wedding that he is not like what Ishaan keeps telling everyone then I would give him his credit due. But he did not.

Where Urmi is concerned she has been told by her mother how to act and behave as a wife from day one. So of course she is going to put SamRAT above everyone even Trishna.
Urmi has had doubts concerning SamRAT but she chooses to ignore them as for that she will have to pay a price and blame herself for it.

I do not see Urmi as a victim at all more a young girl with a filmy fantasy that when she matures and sees the real SamRAT for what he is will need to make a self preserving decision whether to stay and try to change him or understand that it is impossible and make the decision to move on.

How the CV's handle this young girl growing into a woman in standing up for her rights in the marriage is going to show us whether this show is progressive or is in this just for TRP's and the same old twists and inane plots.

Trishna coming back into the show will give us another look at how Urmi and SamRAT treat her. I do not care to see Ishaan with Trishna. I hope they have somebody better than Ishaan for her who lives in the real world and not a fantasy land and cannot see past his make believe world.

Excuse me for the long diatribe.


Finally some time to reply.

Dolly, Samrat is the type who will say his piece, make his point and then he's done. He won't bother with explanations or anything of such. This has been shown a few times, so there's no need for him to bother with Ishaan's attempts. He does roll his eyes, or even sometimes give a line back, but he has not done anything wrong with just rolling his eyes. A lot of what Ishaan does is also not in Samrat's presence.

I don't blame Urmi for being blind per se. I think her family may have still gone through with the wedding, and she's been raised up with her families teachings and all.

However I do blame her for how she handled Trisha. That's what I blame her for. She made the decision to put carry out Samrat's wish of not having Trisha there. Who does that? She goes on and on about respect. She is no different from her grandmother's teachings, even though sometimes she pretends to be. She refused to hear Trisha out. Forget that, she couldn't forgive Trisha for the mistake, but rather carried out her husband-to-be's wishes and proved to him that she would put him over Trisha.

What would Samrat have done if she had failed "the test" as he himself put it? Would he have rethought his choice? Would he have gone into the marriage thinking Urmi is NOT all that he wanted? We don't know. Because Urmi herself "passed" the test, all on her own.

Trisha/Ishaan was a typo. I don't want Trisha/Ishaan at any cost. None. If there's no Ishaan/Urmi fine, but no Trisha/Ishaan. I don't want her paired up with him just like that. Better her not paired up at all.

***All this about Trisha/Urmi fiasco is old, since as my topic says this show has three-dimensional characters. So Urmi did apologize and Trisha and Urmi made up. That's life, that's real. People mess up, people apologize, people forgive.***


Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabeerrachna

what do you think which jodi last forever and look sweet..in doli armanon ki...😳

THIS ...SAMRAT AND URMI...😆
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OR

ISHAAN AND URMI ..THIS...😳


I WANT YOUR SUGGESTION GUYS...I REALLY DONT LIKE SAMRATH AND URMI ..BUT IF YOU LIKE THEM..PLS..DISCUSS WHY AND HOW..OR IF YOU LIKE ISHAAN AND URMI JODI...
...


I do like Samrat/Urmi. But I am vary of how they will go about with it. They are going to show him "changing?" Also, I believe some of his practical aspects shouldn't be changed, and it's Urmi that needs to realize that. In a way it wouldn't bother me if we saw both of them adjusting to the other. But it's the way things have gone about that leaves a bad taste. Like...they are married now...they've slept together. So no matter what, they will have to end up together. Sure Urmi may have had enough and leave, but even still they will find their way back to each other (and most likely, Samrat will have changed and found the light).

Ishaan/Urmi, as I said in my topic the episode made me see the possibility. HOWEVER, it's something that also will break apart his friendship with Samrat. i am okay with it, but only if Ishaan/Urmi happens and ends. Like, if they just tease it or show him falling for her after she leaves Samrat, or before she leaves Samrat, etc. No I don't want a half-assed Ishaan/Urmi.

A one sided Ishaan/Urmi, or even one that may start somewhat on both sides but doesn't materialize--that ends up meaning Ishaan loses two friendships and his relationship with both families.

I do like Samrat/ishaan friendship as well, and part of me doesn't want it to be broken because of some triangle or such. But if it's because we see a woman standing up and realizing the marriage she's in is not the right one for her, and she moves on with Ishaan--then I'm fine the inevitable Samrat/Ishaan break-up. But if not, no...do not even bother with Ishaan/Urmi not even a one sided love with Ishaan.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: butterfly15..

I too think it's great that the show has realistic characters, but I'm sure it won't last for long.


Samrat will be a romantic, and Urmi will change him. That's how it always ends up.

People can change but not in the drastic way that happens in Indian shows.

I don't mind them showing Samrat being less egoistic, and also caring more about Urmi, and therefore being more considerate about her feelings. That would be realistic as it wouldn't change his basic nature, which is him being a practical man who isn't romantic. You can be loving without being romantic.

But of course they will make him into a complete romantic, thus portraying a woman can completely change a man, which isn't really true, and also that only a man who is romantic can be a good husband, and that if he's practical he's a bad husband.🥱

I guess in a way it's easy for me to accept practicality in a man, as I'm a woman who isn't really that romantic, and I don't need a man who showers me with flowers and candle-lit dinners. Romance is different for everyone, but Indian shows only know the typical way of romance. I prefer someone who would do little things for me, someone who'd care about me, rather than someone who just makes grand gestures on anniversaries/birthdays/valtentines etc.

Lastly a person will only change if they themselves think something is wrong in their actions, someone else can make them realise they are wrong, but it doesn't necessarily mean someone else can change them, they have to make the decision of changing themselves.



i agree with your whole post, and I am with you on not being a "romantic." I myself don't care about the romance stuff. I think half of those things are nonsense and I don't see the point.

I will address Snowy's point here as well, i think Urmi too needs to adjust many of her expectations. Just as Samrat needs to stop with his egotistical and misogynist expectations, as well as tone down his behavior.

For instance, big deal that he didn't wear the outfit she picked out for him today. Some people want to wear what they want. He's not wrong in that. She learned that, and she should accept that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: dumppurvi

Like your Post Likarsh.

What I am doing these days when watching serials, is reminding myself that everyone is different and handle situations differently, it is the end result that really matters if you think about it, and that is Urmi and Samrat growing as individuals in a positive way.

So, I am going to be patient with Samrat and Urmi , as I expect them both to evolve in the wiser directions. Urmi should become more wiser and not look at life through rose coloured glasses and eventually learn to act smart where Samrat is concerned so he does not overpower her and take her identity. Also, Urmi should learn to love Samrat not based on her Ideal of him, but look at the real man and possible make a good difference in his life.

Samrat should learn that he has no control, God does, and learn that even if he does not agree with something, he must have tact, respect and patience with others. In turn he would hopefully learn to love Urmi the way she deserves.

This is what I hope for, and I will also remain loyal to this show, as long as it does not become the typical, unrealistic and overbearing serial.


Hilly 😆😆😆...I hadn't known it was you at first.

Yup. I too remain loyal to the show. This is a different show, it is a good show. I really don't know what else to say, other than just that. This show doesn't get the credit it deserves. Each episode surprises me with how good this show still is. I hope they keep it up.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


Hilly 😆😆😆...I hadn't known it was you at first.

Yup. I too remain loyal to the show. This is a different show, it is a good show. I really don't know what else to say, other than just that. This show doesn't get the credit it deserves. Each episode surprises me with how good this show still is. I hope they keep it up.

Yes it is me for sure😆😆😆 I am trying to take another approach to serials rather than getting mad at the characters because they don't do things the way I think they should. Some people are weak and some people are strong, what matters to me is that you eventually become wiser at how you live your life. I know it is too much to of course expect from the cvs. I also agree with a poster about the sudden big change in the characters overnight, and the unromantic suddenly becomes Cassanova 😆 boring and unrealistic🥱
We can only hope for difference and that it may be in this show.

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