brihaspathi is ganeshji's guru & not sanat kumars

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dear friends,

I have a big doubt...did anyone notice this ? Mata parvathi had promised the 4 sanat kumars (brahma's children) that they would get the previlige of being guru for Ganesh. But then Mahadev sent Ganesh and karthikeya to Brihaspathi for gaining knowledge. Then what happened to the promise made by mata Parvathi ? 😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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She promised them they would be Ganesh's first gurus!!!!!
Ganesh was quite old, though not grown up when he went to Brihaspati!!!!!😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: girl25-shivafan

Dear friends,


I have a big doubt...did anyone notice this ? Mata parvathi had promised the 4 sanat kumars (brahma's children) that they would get the previlige of being guru for Ganesh. But then Mahadev sent Ganesh and karthikeya to Brihaspathi for gaining knowledge. Then what happened to the promise made by mata Parvathi ? 😲





Sanat Kumars try to teach Ganesh but he knows everything. It was shown in an episode.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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EDIT: I stand corrected! She did indeed do it, but at a later stage then I initially thought you were referring to (the time when Mahadev was donated to them)! Sorry! 😳 😃

Originally posted by: shinell

Sanat Kumars try to teach Ganesh but he knows everything. It was shown in an episode.


Shinell, when was this? Please tell me the episode number or date, or something about what else happened in that episode or around that time. Thanks! ⭐️
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi there!

I don't know about what is written in the literature, but in DKDM Devi Parvati did not promise the Sanat Kumars (also known as the Sankadik Rishis) that they would be Ganesh's gurus.

At the time when she donated Mahadev to the Sanat Kumars in DKDM, they took Mahadev away with them and asked him to be their guru, and he accepted their request. Then Parvati came in disguise as an old lady with Nandi and some of the Gan-Prets in disguise as her sons, to try to get Mahadev back and get the Sanat Kumars to realise that with the act of donating him and taking him away, they all (Parvati and the Sanat Kumars) had reduced Mahadev to a "thing" instead of God (and that was why they were unable to offer flowers to him as God). After they all realised their mistake and released him from having to go away with them, and Parvati came out of her disguise, she told the Sanat Kumars that Mahadev would continue to be their guru and guide them even though he would not be together with them. Then Mahadev also said that the Sanat Kumars would also become gurus soon themselves, but no one ever mentioned names of who they would be gurus of, especially not Ganesh, who did not exist/had not been born/created in the storyline of DKDM yet.

So in having Brihaspati be Ganesh's guru and not the Sanat Kumars, DKDM was actually perfectly correct according to its own storyline (even if this is different from the ancient literature), and they did not contradict themselves.

I hope this helps to clear your confusion! 😊


Shinell, when was this? Please tell me the episode number or date, or something about what else happened in that episode or around that time. Thanks! ⭐️

Actually, at the time of Ganesh's A.K.A Vinayak's birth, when everyone came there, the Sanakadi Kumars extracted a promise from Parvati that they would be his first gurus. She even said yes and decided to send him, but then Narqada said, his Unapanayan is not yet over. So she waited. And the wait is not yet over.😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Actually, at the time of Ganesh's A.K.A Vinayak's birth, when everyone came there, the Sanakadi Kumars extracted a promise from Parvati that they would be his first gurus. She even said yes and decided to send him, but then Narqada said, his Unapanayan is not yet over. So she waited. And the wait is not yet over.😆


Surya, I think my brain got fried from trying to decipher Kartikeya's and Devsena's DKDM family tree and so I've had a selective flashback memory this week! 😆

When I wrote my post earlier today (the one you quoted) I forgot about the time after Ganesh was actually born 😕, and later in the day I fell asleep and I remembered that part while I was asleep! And then I was thinking at that time "Duh, of course that's what Mahadev meant when he told the Sankadik Rishis after being freed from being donated that they would soon become gurus themselves!".

So now here I am eating my words (and hoping that my memory comes back!). Thanks for correcting me. ⭐️

I guess the CVs probably forgot about Parvati's promise when they hurriedly wanted Ganesh to grow up before the yugantar (and they only made one contribution to the tangled family tree, so what's their excuse for memory loss? [Joking!] 😉).

Although, they had Mahadev say that Ganesh's and Kartikeya's guru would be "devtao ke guru" but didn't actually mention Brihaspati by name. I guess it is possible that they all contributed to their education, but we didn't get to see any of this so it really doesn't matter anyway.

Genuine question: Are the Sankadik Rishis ever considered to be gurus to the devtas as well?

I guess this might be another DKDM Tridevi-related boon that didn't actually get fulfilled in the show, just like the one Saraswati received from Mahadev about cradling his first child. Now all we need for the full set is for Lakshmi to give or received a boon, and then to wait and watch to see if it ever actually happens! 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: girl25-shivafan

Dear friends,


I have a big doubt...did anyone notice this ? Mata parvathi had promised the 4 sanat kumars (brahma's children) that they would get the previlige of being guru for Ganesh. But then Mahadev sent Ganesh and karthikeya to Brihaspathi for gaining knowledge. Then what happened to the promise made by mata Parvathi ? 😲


Kuch nahi cvs created a boon and forgot it

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