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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: bholabear

That is such a beautiful post. Lovely analysis, and I am haazir to talk to you about soulmates and finding the perfect partner. Just not right now, as getting ready for a meeting, will be back in a few hours.

Oh and for the curious, yes, I do believe in soulmates. I have found mine, and he makes me angry, laugh, cry, love him so much. More later.


Hi bholabear (your username is so cute πŸ˜†) thanks so much for popping in. Will look forward for your analysis. 

So great to know you have practical experience of the soulmate concept πŸ˜³ gives us all some hope...

Originally posted by: nureat01

I just realized on rewatching the precap...Ram is actually SMILING looking at the rain too!πŸ˜²πŸ˜†...Or is it just the magic of Priya's company? :P

They both look sooo adorableee! I can't stop gushing over this precapπŸ˜†


Anu - lol. It seems to be some alternate universe πŸ˜† Or maybe he's smiling because she's said yes to the rishta and  now he feels he is rid of the museebat? πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Originally posted by: Nels

Bang on pswayer!!!! Just finished watching the epi and the first thing that came in my mind was exactly the question Priya asked, "How can it be so perfect?"

 
Infact, I too believe in what you wrote "if it's too good to be true, it's probably false". And I am completely with you when you wrote:
"Her hesitation towards Vineet was based solely on him and her reaction towards him. She was blind-sided from the moments she stepped into the house, and confused by her own inertia and her own non-reaction to him. Here is a guy who is pushing all the right buttons, saying all the right things, giving me everything I want. Why am I still not sure?"
 
If I would have been in her place, absolutely same thing would have come to my mind. Basically the answer to this hesitation holds in the words of Priya, that she told to Ayesha in the past. I completely believe that two people with different personalities can lead a perfect life if they connect well. It's not necessary that they should meet the expectations completely. Because the most important thing in the life is the spark, the interaction that holds the two people.
 
As far as the questions you asked in the end of your post are concerned, well, I don't have any story on my part to be shared. But I do believe that the soul mate exist! 


Hi Nels - great post! I'm Vasu πŸ˜› @bold - I totally agree. Jab spark hai, toh sab chalta hai. I guess that's the answer to the eternal question "what the hell is Karthik doing with Nutz"? πŸ˜•πŸ˜†

@Chitrita - hey! Nice post. I too feel, having seen similar points from all you guys, that this should not be one of Ram's guys as that will make him too manipulative. Aside from the fact that she has already told him to stop searching for a boy for her, if it WAS one of his, he should have told Priya upfront rather than let the guy blindside her like that. I sure hope this is unconnected to Ram completely. 
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: avivakirk

 Your posts are brilliant! Funny enough the questions u put forth was raised in my ESL classroom. I have students from many different parts of the world. Most of them were curious abt arranged marriages. Only my student from India and I had an arranged marriage. My Indian student said hers was an arranged marriage but they fell in love after their marriage.  My Spanish couple in  my class believed in love marriages and  mentioned  that there's your rib waiting for u somewhere  and u would recognise it the minute u see them. He felt that this was the girl for him out of all the others he had seen and dated when they first met . She too felt the same.  So many years of marriage and four children, I can still  see the electric sparks flying btwn them.They are like twin peas in a pod. Yes ,they are soulmates. I believe in romance and soulmates.People who find them are lucky.At the same time one should not have your head floating in the clouds that u would ignore the niggling doubts and the red flags.

Vineet though perfect husband material and what the doctor ordered  husband material for Priya somehow didn't ring in true. There was something in him which put us off. Agree with your points

Thanks Aviva! Lovely examples you have posted about some of your students' experiences. So many different ways of going about it - arranged marriages, love marriages etc but ultimately it depends on the people in that relationship finding that elusive spark and connection.

Again Priya sacrificing her  desires for her family's happiness is wrong and right Right if it's for the right guy in her lifeand wrong if it's the wrong guy.Most of the time the parents and relatives would wash off their hands saying it is your Bhagya if stuck with the wrong choice. You know, I had a debate with my dad after watching yesterday's episode about this subject. Now that Priya has said yes, imagine that she married Vineet and in the end it didn't work out - they got divorced or she was unhappy or whatever. Who would the blame of that relationship lie with? Priya, for saying yes even though her heart said no? Or her parents, who said things like "I'n not trying to force you, but...?" or the fact that the only reason Priya said yes was because she remembered her mother's harsh words? Who is to blame in that scenario? Tabhi toh - marriage is not a decision you can take so lightly and let just happen to you; you have to be absolutely sure that this is the right thing for you. Otherwise only you will come to regret it. 

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Fivr-

Vasu jee! I just have to say that I love the way you've worded this post.. Everything you've said and every question you've posed.. I'm in the middle of a catch up spree toh I won't be able to reply in detail abhi but if I find time tomorrow I will reply.. Warna I still just wanted to make it be known k I LOVE this! πŸ€—πŸ˜³


Fivr jee πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€— good to see you here. Hurry up and catch up so we can discuss this! πŸ˜†

@Shobha - hey! Great analysis. I too hope that Karthik is saved from the rishta with Nutz as I do quite like him, and I would rather not see her all too often. 

Good to know you believe in soulmates - you're in good company I guess since I haven't found mine either! πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

Originally posted by: abhijeetdaya

 psawyer. You always hit the bullseyeπŸ‘. You are a very keen observer and can put down your thoughts very well. I strongly suspect that Ram has sent this guy. I also don't believe in perfection and there should be some differences so that we understand and accommodate other people's thoughts and perspective


Hi, thank you so much! Agree with your analysis - I suspect that Ram is behind the dulha but I am hoping it is not the case. Let's hope they will once again surprise us and not go down the beaten track. 

Originally posted by: *Resham*

Perfect Analysis ...


Ram and Priya has this unspoken magic which ws evident in the precap itself...also all good things neednt be a perfect person to marry...thts wht Priya too felt...somewhere I feel Vineet will drop out and Ram will marry Priya bec thts the story...lets see

in btw Hii to everyone hereπŸ€—


Hi Resham, thanks so much. Ah, you think Vineet might leave the shaadi ka mandap and Ram will step in? Possible, possible. Though I still hope that Priya herself rejects him in advance and RP find another way to come together. 

@shreya - lol, Nuts has NO redeeming qualities that I can see at this stage. She is just...blah. 


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: lola610

My first post in BALH forum... hi guys! I'm hopelessly hooked on this show and look forward to discussing it with you guys as it picks up momentum and *hopefully* stays as realistic, relatable, and likable as it is so far! Hi Lola! Lovely to see you here; keep posting! 

@ Vasu (if I may call you that 😳) - I think I'm as hooked on your synopses as I am on the show... your writing is so precise and thought-provoking πŸ‘ Anyone reading it would probably find that it echoes their thoughts exactly because of how you present it. Even found interesting food for thought in a mundane episode like today's, wowzies! I would like to write more when I'm freer this weekend, but for now I want to point out just a couple of things. Of course you can call me Vasu πŸ˜³ as long as you keep up the praise πŸ˜† seriously though - thank you so much for your kind words. I often feel like I am rambling to my own benefit but thankfully this forum has a lot of intelligent, sensible and like-minded members who seem to enjoy my posts, as I do theirs. 

- In today's epi, I think you hit the bullseye when you said, w.r.t. Vineet, that "he said all the right things even before Priya could say them". That's what should look suspicious to anyone, luckily at least Priya picked up on it if not the rest of them. The dad, I have no hopes of him being perceptive of anything πŸ€”πŸ˜† But why not Karthik? I mean, what kind of guy objects to "jaake freshen up kar" in an attempt to flatter the girl - dude, she was just going to wash her face after a long day, and you go all Shakespeare on her It seemed awkward, the way sooo much was tumbling out of his mouth at one go. It's a different matter that the speed with which we do the same on IF might even exceed his πŸ˜† Anyway, that was strange, and the way he acted in the one-on-one session, as if he knew everything there was to know about her. How much could possibly be revealed in a profile on a matrimonial site πŸ˜• Even her mom and sister who created the profile don't know everything that about Priya that makes her who she is, then yeh banda kahaan se aaya, Mr. Antaryaami?! So, yeah. Those were some thoughts on today's epi. So true @bold. In fact, my sister made a similar comment when he said "no need to freshen up, she looks good as she is". My sis said, sure, but dude, don't you think she might want to freshen up for her personal hygiene?? She's just come in from work, is tired and hot and probably sweaty - could you possibly give her a couple of minutes to herself?! πŸ˜† And you are bang on about the way he presented himself - he was revealing SO much of himself...practically stumbling over his words. It was like a word vomit that he couldn't control. I am a reserved person myself and I don't quite trust people who reveal themselves in such a short amount of time to practical strangers. And I really don't like it when people presume to tell me how I am feeling, so this was sort of a double whammy of suspicion for me. 

- Speaking of her mom, I wanna refer back to your write-up from yesterday's Shipra special... I adored her scenes yesterday, especially the one with Priya in front of the mirror, and I was so relieved that her new shriek-free dialogue delivery carried over to today Even during the loud phone call that disrupted class, she didn't get shrill! Hope it stays that way throughout the show. Anyway, back to yesterday - loved the sweetness at the end, and love the protective yet sensible side of her we saw towards the beginning, with the marriage bureau guy. Someone mentioned her inconsistency as a character, the sort of schizo-ness of the switch between pyaari maa and wicked stepmom type. I just wanted to mention that we might interpret yesterday's Ashwin bit as the answer to that confusion, a way of building dimension into Shipra's character instead of what others guessed - introducing Ashwin as a potential Ekta-esque complication in the upcoming 'RaYa' marriage. Maybe (IMO, hopefully) we were only treated to him because the marriage bureau dude's reference to his and Priya's relationship as town gossip is the cause of Shipra's frustration? If she's been hearing bad talk about Priya even since the breakup and try as she may, is helpless in setting the record straight about her daughter's personality, that is reason enough to have developed in her the eccentricities and desperation we've seen in her over the past couple weeks. So true @bold. Even I noticed that despite her panic she was not as shrill and annoying as she has been in the past. I hope this is a permanent change and that she continues to be audible, even if she does get carried away! πŸ˜† You are right about Ashwin being the probable cause of Shipra's schizo-ness. I guess now that she has taken out her bhadaas on Ashwin, maybe she has expelled some of that poison? 

- I must second your annoyance with Niharika's slooowww speech πŸ˜† It sounds really exaggerated and unclear. If, God forbid, this show goes the usual Kekta route and we get treated to showdowns between her and Priya, the poor lady will never be able to keep up to her DIL's super speedy sarcasm we witnessed in the staircase scene with Ram! By the time she finishes saying "Priya", the latter will have delivered a good 10 punchlines already. LMAO! πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£ That's hilarious! And so true! 

- The general convos you sparked off of today's epi's themes - the concept of soulmates, listening to your heart vs. listening to your mind, the appeal of imperfection - great discussion ideas, more on them later. In fact each one probably deserves a thread of its own. For now, I would just say - from a place of very little experience πŸ˜† - that perfect as people may seem for each other, love is always going to be something of a work in progress. You can't know everything about a person, and people don't stay the same. They undergo experiences they've been through before and in reaction, new sides of them are either created or revealed (that's the phase of this show I'm most looking forward to, the one we saw in promos - the one through which two people keep learning their differences and continue to fall in love in spite of/because of
them - hopefully Ekta doesn't forget that that's enough to keep us glued, her usual saas bahu elements need not apply!). So no, I'm not too sure about soulmates or perfect matches, I'm more inclined to believe that a relationship can be made to work between anyone and anyone else - but the motivation to work at it will only exist if there's that spark you referred to in the precap. Not of a perfect match, but of a lively one - that in which they both literally spring to life in each other's presence, regardless of the things that make them different from one another. They've had, all in all, maybe 4 scenes together since the show has started, and we already see the magic - can't wait until they're living under the same roof and such scenes and sentiments will become a day to day occurrence! @bold - Exactly right! I think most people here have a similar thought process - that a soulmate can be MADE rather than just drop from the heavens perfectly formed. And life and love are works in progress and will always require ACTIVE involvement from both parties. That's why so many people get divorced so quickly - they feel that the marriage doesn't live up to the "happily ever after" fairytale they had envisaged, not realising that they have to nurture that themselves. I read a passage somewhere - can't really remember where - that really struck home with me. I'll probably be paraphrasing, but here goes:


People who fall in love often say there is a magic, an electricity in the air. The first few days of an affair are like a heady cloud of happiness, a drug. They marry and expect that this will last forever, but soon find that the magic runs out, the supply is gone, the cloud evaporates. What they don't realise is that the beginning of a relationship is that magical because they are both making it magical. They work to impress the other person, to surprise them, to like and be liked. They think that doing this in the beginning of the relationship will create a store of this magic and will last them forever, so after a while they stop making this magic. They stop investing in each other. Then, the magic runs out and they blame each other. They say "we fell out of love", when they should be realising that they stopped trying to stay in love. 

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Posted: 12 years ago
Thanks everyone for your great posts! Really enjoyed reading them all! 

@preety - lol, you married your Ram?! That's so cute πŸ˜† 

Originally posted by: yipee

wonderful post and some interesting things you mentioned which I can relate to...

 
talking generally, my own story is like that ...i did have proposals from some guys who were almost near perfect and would just agree to what I say, the "nice" ones...And then i met my hubby...he was fierce, would not keep "singing" my praises, would fight with me, I am cool headed and he is or rather was hot headed, but somewhere we clicked and I fell in love...he had enough good qualities that a normal good person shud have, but at the same time we had some differences which made our relationship more interesting...There is a spark, there is always more romance when you make up after a fight:p...so i agree with you, that somewhere an "ideal" guy makes a boring life partner...atleast thats wht in my case but ofcourse there might be people who prefer the ideal ones...its just about who you click with and with whom you come alive


Hai πŸ˜ that sounds awesome. Like my ideal relationship πŸ˜†. I don't have a long list of what I want from a guy - I just want him to be different from me. I already live with me, I have no interest in cloning myself in that way πŸ˜†
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Abhi911

Fab analysis Vasu (right?)! Yep, it's Vasu. Thanks so much!


First things first, ever since I've heard The Mamaji call Niharika as 'Sweety', 'Switty Switty Switty tera paisa jayeda' I cant stop humming the tune with a l'le modification though. Hahaha, that's hilarious! I have to go hear this song now...I've only heard the Nakkadwaley song πŸ˜†

Vineet is Edwardish (Twilight fans dont pounce on me please πŸ˜†). He seems too perfect, to the extent of being sickening. One major reason ppl coonect with Harry Potter more is cause JKR has included imperfections in his character. The goods and the flaws, both maketh a man. Rambling much, am I? πŸ˜† LMAO - dunno about Edward; but agree with you on flaws maketh the man. Saccharine sweetness is not endearing in men or women. 



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: psawyer


People who fall in love often say there is a magic, an electricity in the air. The first few days of an affair are like a heady cloud of happiness, a drug. They marry and expect that this will last forever, but soon find that the magic runs out, the supply is gone, the cloud evaporates. What they don't realise is that the beginning of a relationship is that magical because they are both making it magical. They work to impress the other person, to surprise them, to like and be liked. They think that doing this in the beginning of the relationship will create a store of this magic and will last them forever, so after a while they stop making this magic. They stop investing in each other. Then, the magic runs out and they blame each other. They say "we fell out of love", when they should be realising that they stopped trying to stay in love. 

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I know you said you are paraphrasing, but love love love this paragraph of yours...especially the last line. Wow!!! You are a really talented writer. I even  googled the last line to see if it was out of a book, but got no results.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Hello this is my first post in this forum.. Was in dilemma weather to post or not.. Bu can't refrain myself from doing so aftr going thru your post.. Huge of RiYa jodi watched it from starting and want to be an eternal part of this forum and I hope that you guys will accept me with open arms.. Though I already have some frnds here like Mru, Fuzzy, Fivr, Zuby, Maz , Naureat, and may be there are some whom I have still not noticed on this forum.. Ok coming to the post..

@Vasu.. Iliked your post very very much.. But there seems to be something wrong with my system.. Everytime I try to hit the like button it gets hanged.. I hope this post gets pasted on this page.. *Finger's crossed* I really like the way you said that women find something attractive about the unsafe guy and always drawn towards him rather than the goody two shoes.. and the comparison of Vineet to Vanilla nd Ram to the Choco Icecream swirl with pecan and brandy was just too mouth watering and tempting... You made me hungry too.. *Curses on you* LOL.. Anyway coming to the point.. Well I would definitely would not prefer Vineet.. I mean such perfection gets kind of nostalgic and gives you head ache.. i mean where is the fun in life if you can't even argue with your life partner or make him agree to your decisions sometimes and sometimes agree to his.. This is life na where where we care and share and sometimes let go things which are dear to us for the sake of the person who is more dearer to us then the thing.. I have started blabbering now.  hope I'm making some sense..
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Tina :
 
Hi Tina,I am Pooja,we have not met earlier,but we have one forum in common-LTL.
Have occsionally seen u there,nice to see so many LTLians on BALH forum,feels like home😊
Pls. change ur sig line,becaz i am sure all ur friends missed u a lot ,
,& having said that welcome backπŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 12 years ago
 
I know you said you are paraphrasing, but love love love this paragraph of yours...especially the last line. Wow!!! You are a really talented writer. I even  googled the last line to see if it was out of a book, but got no results.

Aw, thanks. Yes, the last line especially is a paraphrase which is why you can't find it online πŸ˜† I honestly can't remember where I read it...must have been a few months ago...but the gist of it stuck in my head, even though I lost the words. 
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