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Posted: 15 years ago
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Radev2010 trust u to present ur thoughts in a innovative way😆😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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.....beats me as well, gardes. I really can't understand and some people cheering Radhika on, look ^&*^^& to me. (Sorry guys, I can't find a word that I could use which could pass the rules of this forum.) Where is the acting and where are the emotions? What the heck is that you guys keep cheering on when more than 3/4th of an episode has to be blocked? and why? and for whose sake? Now, don't give me the next crap about watching it for AviNa. I am sick and tired of reading that bull crap.

Gardes, I loved your reply to rajsri. I wish I could write like that. There is this guy who knows very well that he has lost his memory and is living with a family. He has made a pact with this wife that they will not (resume) their physical relation until he regains his memory [Note the word resume in parenthesis, bcos he thinks the kid is his]. But can't they show even a bit of his inner turmoil? Forget the payal and forget Radhika hugging and disturbing his thoughts. Why can't they show what Abhay feels prior to all that? I am supposed to fill-in all the parts not shown to me bcos he is shown to be staring at a payal? These writers are really useless. And don't even get me started on Dev/Abhay/Avi's acting. You all will have to run for cover.

p.s: Now if you think you are offended reading this post. Then I would say, go ahead block it as well from your mind, you must have become expert at this watching CB, haven't you?

Bee, I have been on an offensive mission for a while now and the only way I can do it is to watch the episode and there is plenty of material there for me to work with. I skip episodes because of lack of interest these days. It is a combination of writing, dialogues, acting, directing and editing combined that makes the episode and it seems CB is falling short on all counts these days.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes ... i actually admire Ekta's business acumen .. she is a very shrewd businesswoman and invests in her golden goose ... she is also extremely involved in every one of her projects, the actors, esp the ones that are toppers in their time slot

I have sporadically watched her past and current shows and dont enjoy her story lines ... also, the only show I happen to be addicted to and am interested in is unfortunately CB ... and I wish the producers of this show had the same level of commitment in their show that Ekta seems to have in hers
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gardes


Bee, I have been on an offensive mission for a while now and the only way I can do it is to watch the episode and there is plenty of material there for me to work with. I skip episodes because of lack of interest these days. It is a combination of writing, dialogues, acting, directing and editing combined that makes the episode and it seems CB is falling short on all counts these days.



Gardes,
when there is a non-existent script, thats what happens 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri

Angie ... the creatives are so anxious abt their weekly TRPs that they have lost their ability to decide what areas to stretch and what to cut short. I was hoping that they would not care for short term TRPs but stretch where they needed to and let the story follow a logical track

Dev's turmoil and what happened to him the past 5 years is extremely important to show and so is Rads gently guiding him to recovery ... and i am surprised they do not think it was important enough ...

last year they stretched endlessly but we watched bcos they focused it on the emotions of the lead characters



rajsri,
I have to agree with you. These guys are going by the weekly TRPs and crumbling all over the place and crumbling very badly at that!

The reason, IMHO is, they come and read the forum. People don't like if they bringing in Keshav, Chachu, Arjun, Mrinalini, Vishaka, Amma, Shantanu, Kanika, Klady or for that matter anyone else in future (in case they sustain that long). They read all these people who do not like any of these other characters coming in between Rad and Dev. What the CVs do not understand is there are also some people who are willing to wait and watch what and how the drama unfolds, they are willing to give the CVs the time to establish the story, but no, the CVs come and read all the wrong people and panic. And this crap is a result of that panic. Yes, a forum is required, feedback is also required. But, what they do not understand is, if someone is not letting them tell their story and jumping the gun, then they needn't pay heed to those comments/viewers.

I have a suggestion for the CVs - "stop reading the forum and do what to want to do, give it time. Initially you may have less TRPs, but its fine. First establish the base and then take it on from there, and then stretch a bit and everything will be fine, continue to convince the viewer, then you see how you will not get the TRPs." Will they read this and take it? The answer is, NO!

p.s: above in my suggestion, I am hoping they take a break from the forum "for a while"!!! I don't mind if they take it forever either.

Edited by bee5 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes, Bee, Rajsri and all the others who have made this thread a lively one.........thanks to all of you. Thanks also to all the silent readers too.
Long time back in chemistry class I had learned that the definition of atom as the smallest particle is actually a misnomer...because later on even smaller particles like proton,neutrons and elctrons were discovered. For me now CB and its tagline that it is a divine love story with Kanha the factor looking after Radhika is also a misnomer because the creatives have themselves proved that to me........
1) Ok CB still stands.......atleast till now they have not shown another son of Vaishali who is younger to Dev whom she might have again given up......actually they can do that...when they finish with all this that they are showing they can get another set of family and make the guy in that the long lost son.......he will be shown having problems getting the girl of his dreams...this time they can go to Badrinath and and then will marry that girl.......this girl will not be fried alive but might drown or some accident happening.......as a result of which she will have some deep mental wounds..........and then after marriage will become CB...........hopefully Dev and Radhika will be left alone........also they can include one clause saying that the RP can only be the youngest son so that guy gets the title.
2)Divine.........another misnomer.........started off as divine as the atom started off as the smallest particle then like the electrons, protons and neutrons came the burning, the lynching, the beatings, justification of abuse........and Kanha or the divine was left behind standing in sme bus stop......he is brought in from time to time to justify the divine word but since its a misnomer they themselves again prove that that is actually not the case.
3) Love story again a misnomer......again started off as Dev seeing Radhika falling madly in love and refusing to acknowledge ther thn her as his wife..Radhika also falling in love but cannot say it.....but then came murder....attempted murder.......the list is endless here.
4) second grade treatment of adopted children.........second grade? what second grade.....this was far worse than any torture chamber.......I mean started off as second grade ....then was followed by snatching rights......playing with marriage......physical abuse......mental and emotional abuse........burning........justification of abuse........silent approval to abuse.....turning your face away from abuse.........then turning the abused person into a liar......into a mahaan athma......forgetting humane behaviour........they did managet to rectify this somewhat here but again are going back to their fav mahaan card.So the creatives are again proving that it is a misnomer.
Not going to lack of screenplay......logic.....dialogues and all the other factors simply because it is not lack but there isn't any...........that part is zero.
As for this hankering for RP by Radhika thats the cvs panic response to TAMs and what not.......they manage to write some dialogous on the basis of the last weeks TAMs and then tell the director to place the characters in different parts of the same room and let them repeat the dialogues in different postures..........or different set of clothes..........or different background (I mean dry compared to rain.......sunshine compared to night). The best way to notice this panic response are Radhikas dialogue and the sudden appearance of the divine factor.....thats the first think that they play with when they are in panic and want to change tracks........
1) They did that during ONS......realised their blunder brought in Kanha .......Radhika runs and in their panic response they completetly blundered through the marriage truth. If the ONS had not been brought in and had been left to Radhika to finally accept that because of her silence Dev is falling apart.......made Dev the focus then Kanha could also have been brought in.........Kanha or her subconscious (whatever way a person wants to refer to it as) could also have given her the push to come out of this confusion and then the first truth could have come out gradually.
2) Shantanu........again they messed it up big time by playing with Shantanus character and then when people started loosing interest and the TRPs dropped.......they decided to end the track and again used Radhika.....gave her a silly dialogue that how great was Vaishali........that was followed by dadima saying Vashali was so nice and Dev also accepting it and not using his senses.....
3) This five year leap.....they had initial plans for taking it slowly.....atleast the track started that way but again panic response to TRPs.......instead of slowly showing Radhika getting Abhay back as her husband and then both doing something about RP...they have started running.........again Radhikas dialogue that she has to get him back for RP was the hint.....and entire tuesdays episode was a hint......and the so called Kanha is back in action.
Edited by misti73 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri

Gardes ... i actually admire Ekta's business acumen .. she is a very shrewd businesswoman and invests in her golden goose ... she is also extremely involved in every one of her projects, the actors, esp the ones that are toppers in their time slot

I have sporadically watched her past and current shows and dont enjoy her story lines ... also, the only show I happen to be addicted to and am interested in is unfortunately CB ... and I wish the producers of this show had the same level of commitment in their show that Ekta seems to have in hers

Rajsri, I want to give back to you your own words to think over and see my viewpoint. I am not being antagonistic but presenting you with my reality check!
You mentioned that you don't enjoy EK's storylines. Are you then telling me that in recent months CB's storylines have been better? Which ones? Starting with recent going backwards:
Abhay/Dev with a new family - a child, chatpati wife and Chambal ki Rani MIL
5 year leap after the widowhood debacle, the gehun ka atta funeral?
A Mahant who looks like jail warden getting his cheap thrills from punishing people and not a pious man he is supposed to be?
Shaantanu flip-flopping between obsession and murder? Who was he?
Vishakha's antics and her ONS demand?
Thakshak Raja's gufa storyline?
Deliberate fire and Radhika's burns?
EK's storylines are equally or maybe even mor revolting but their execution makes you want to appreciate them. She hires the best, maintains the quality and oversees it personally.
Someone sent me an article to read about Deeya Singh's interview and she brags about her shows. She comes across so arrogant describing herself and her shows, I had to LOL! Obviously she is focused on other things and not CB and it shows.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes,
I read that interview and I could see why CB is falling apart. She was competing with Ekta by saying that she is the original TV queen, quoted her favorite shows. Her only quote of CB was to indicate that her shows are running on several channels.
Now, I don't like Ekta's shows especially the idea of rapists marrying their victims make me extremely mad. But, then I don't watch her shows anyway and have seen it passing when my mom watches them.
CB is the only show that I started watching and that's because it was unique in the sense that they did a beautiful relationship between different characters (not talking about Vishaka and Amma and even they were more toned down characters in the beginning).
You are right that now the stories are as bad as any other show. I criticize it because this is the only one I watch and everytime I feel that they would learn. I actually liked Shantanu's track and thought it had great potential until they made Vaishali Devi for giving him up and changed him suddenly from a saviour to a killer.
Now, I watch with no expectations and just judge individual episodes rather than the track. If I like a particular episode, I say so; otherwise, I criticize it. You can see that even the actors are bored and acting levels have gone down. I don't blame them for it. I have done some jobs where the management is such that work just becomes a means of making money rather than a passion.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gardes

Rajsri, I want to give back to you your own words to think over and see my viewpoint. I am not being antagonistic but presenting you with my reality check!
You mentioned that you don't enjoy EK's storylines. Are you then telling me that in recent months CB's storylines have been better? Which ones? Starting with recent going backwards:
Abhay/Dev with a new family - a child, chatpati wife and Chambal ki Rani MIL
5 year leap after the widowhood debacle, the gehun ka atta funeral?
A Mahant who looks like jail warden getting his cheap thrills from punishing people and not a pious man he is supposed to be?
Shaantanu flip-flopping between obsession and murder? Who was he?
Vishakha's antics and her ONS demand?
Thakshak Raja's gufa storyline?
Deliberate fire and Radhika's burns?
EK's storylines are equally or maybe even mor revolting but their execution makes you want to appreciate them. She hires the best, maintains the quality and oversees it personally.
Someone sent me an article to read about Deeya Singh's interview and she brags about her shows. She comes across so arrogant describing herself and her shows, I had to LOL! Obviously she is focused on other things and not CB and it shows.



Gardes ... let me explain my POV ... I am by no means comparing CB to other shows and saying this is superior or inferior in terms of story line or anything else ... to each their own

I think most of the Hindi soaps have crappy stories and thankfully, I have stayed detached enough to watch some other shows sporadically. For whatever reason, CB is the only show I got addicted to. I loved their story line after last June/July ... and really fell in love with the characters of both Rads and Dev. I very stupidly think of them as family. The same has not happened in my case with any other show (I am sure it is the other way round with some others)

I also liked the characterization of the male lead on CB (though there have been instances in the past when they could have shown him differently) Since the ONS track I have not liked the story line. I certainly do not like the way they are keeping quiet abt what happened to Dev. If they had showed Dev/abhay in a relationship with Kanika and having a son of his own, i would have called it quits ... i think that was my line to draw

So, for me, I am watching bcos I still think the show and the story line have tremendous potential, I like the 2 main characters, the actors ( 😊 no jhootas please on that one ) and am rooting for them ... but do get very frustrated with the story lines and execution but not enough to want to quit. With the other shows, I am being frank when I say they have not captured my heart or my imagination ... so I have to pass. I am sure there are a few more out there with much better story lines than CB but which do not even make the TRP grade.

I think each of us watch these shows for different reasons ... PR is a tremendously popular show, so I am sure a lot of people disagree with me ... but it is just not my cup of tea. If I had started watching CB this year after ONS or during any one of the story lines that you mentioned I would definitely not have stayed ... I left last year after the first marriage when Vish went to PB and came back a few months later

As far as Ekta vs Pooja is concerned, I think Ekta is definitely more successful, much more involved in her projects... both IMO are equally arrogant ... I dont like either of them though I admire what they have done with their respective businesses, Ekta much more so than the DJs



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri



As far as Ekta vs Pooja is concerned, I think Ekta is definitely more successful, much more involved in her projects... both IMO are equally arrogant ... I dont like either of them though I admire what they have done with their respective businesses, Ekta much more so than the DJs





rajsri,
who is Pooja now? I thought we were talking about Ekta and Deeya the supposed-to-be (thats for the latter one) successful ladies in the show-business?

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