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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Personally, I'm not watching any of the episodes, but Hrideyy is keeping me up to date on what's happening every day. So thank you for that! <3

Now, as for what happened today, I'm NOT happy! 😳

Here's why:

Kunj's lack of belief and trust in Twinkle at this stage of their lives and relationship is unacceptable. These two have risked their lives numerous times for each other. Whether Kunj is poisoned, his family is kidnapped, they're placed in a gas chamber, or in any situation they have put their lives in mortal danger, there has been an irreplaceable trust and faith in each other.

Situations like these do not break relations. They increase the strength in them and solidify them to face even harsher situations for the future. They harden so that they do not break so easily due to the bad weather around them.

Here?

They have made it seem like as if all those events had never occurred.

Just recently, we saw Twinkle not care about her life, her dignity or reputation when it came to her sister. The sister who hates her guts. How can Kunj believe that she would so willingly tarnish the Sarna family's name like that? That to against the very father-in-law who was the most eager to bring her to this house, and has treated her like a daughter? Not to mention, this is the same woman who made herself sick by praying at the gurudwara to alleviate all the problems that had fallen onto their house.

How could Kunj just forget that?

Granted, it is his parents. Granted he has gotten a shock knowing that his dad has gone into a coma and Usha just threatened to kill herself. For a moment, he had to face the risk of losing both his parents at one time.

But does that justify his reasoning behind not trusting his wife? The wife who has done more than she should have to not only save his life but to better it?

Just a few episodes ago, we saw this man risking his life to save Twinkle's when she went underwater. If he does not love or trust her, then why would he do such a thing? Shortly after that, we saw him making full efforts to restart their relationship on a clean slate, without any of the negative complications that had confounded their marital journey. Why would he do that if he did not wish to spend the rest of his life with her? Why would he do that if he did not see something in her that made him think, yes, this is the woman who will love and respect not only me but my family as well.

Just... what is going on in his head when he goes against Twinkle?? The justifications never tally up with his actions, and frankly, I feel like they are butchering his character this way.

And Twinkle.

This woman has endured SO MUCH abuse and yet she sticks around for this bloody, ungrateful family. Now that she's gone, I want her to STAY gone. Like, I want her AS FAR away from the Sarna's as she possibly can.

I want a divorce. And not some metaphorical bullshit either. A legal, court ordered divorce.

Kunj should use this time to focus on his studies and build himself a career. With Manohar out of the way and unable to guide him, Kunj needs to start figuring his shit out. He can't busy himself with all the kitchen politics when he has a family to care of financially.

Twinkle should start regaining her identity as a strong and independent woman. She needs to learn how to build up her self-esteem, her self-confidence and the will to fight against family members when they ARE wrong! Not silently take in their crap and let it all slide.

Make her focus on building up her own career and give her a direction, purpose and motivation to do something that is OUTSIDE of the Sarna family. That is outside of regaining her sister's trust, her winning against the evils of the Luthra family or even outside of KUNJ! Lord knows, this guy doesn't deserve any of her love as of yet.

Let these two grow at their own rate into individuals first before they can be tied together. The whole basis of their marital relationship was wrong and that is the root cause of every wrong thing that has happened in their life. I'm not talking about the Farmhouse Misunderstanding specifically, but the whole concept of them getting married to each other against their will. They didn't have trust in each other nor the want to be together. Yes, they have fulfilled their individual roles of being a husband and of a being a wife, but those are two separate roles. They have never been together as husband and wife.

They have always remained at this stage where they try to build a relationship with hollow words and empty promises. When it comes to enact upon them, they never work out, especially from Kunj's side. More so than Twinkle, Kunj has been the one to make these grandiose promises of being by her side at every step of the way, supporting her in every fight etc. But when it comes down to it, he just never lives up to those words. He never gives Twinkle the benefit of the doubt, or try to listen to her defense. He always assumes the worst of her and then goes back grovelling for forgiveness when he's proven wrong.

I really don't like this dynamic between them as it signifies an unhealthy relationship.

Twinkle is abused, cries, is accused and abandoned by Kunj, fights to prove herself right and then Kunj comes back to apologize. Yes, there are moments and times when Kunj is by her side, supporting her. However, how meaningful is that support when he is doing it half-heartedly? Is he by her side because he has to as he is her husband or is he with her because he wants to? Who is Kunj doing all this for? Is it for Twinkle or is it to quench his doubts and find a reason to trust and believe in her?

When he acts in relation to Twinkle, it is never entirely selflessly. There is always an ulterior motive - how much can I trust her?

Remember, this is the girl that kept her affair with Yuvi hidden from her mother. This is also the woman who refused to believe in Kunj's integrity and accused him of raping her.

She cannot be easily trusted and no matter what Kunj says, he will never, ever fully trust her again.

I'm going to end this off now as it is getting extremely long and a more in-depth analysis can be done on the motivations, and insecurities of both those characters - especially Kunj's.

But the fact remains that I strongly stand by the suggestion of having Twinkle and Kunj get a legal divorce, build themselves up as individuals, become stronger and more comfortable, and more confident with who they are, and then proceed to see if they work together as a single unit. Because the way they are operating right now, highly says otherwise.


Hi!

Well first off, new here (kind of), yeah, Greetings!!

And, btw, I really like your OS and stuff here on Twinkle and Kunj. You write real well! 😊

Secondly, you're obviously entitled to your opinion, but personally I think you are being way too harsh on Kunj. And honestly I think that has a lot to do with you not having watched the episodes.

Yes, Kunj is mad at her but he does still TRUST her. And he has made that rather clear in both the episodes since the hospital scene. First, when he directly tells her that he knows she will not tarnish the name of his family or do anything to harm them on purpose and second, when he defended her against Anita today, he explicitly told her that 'Twinkle mein bachpan zaroor hai, but she would never do such a thing to spoil the name of his family on purpose'.
He is mad at her for keeping this from him, and he always made it clear he wants her to trust him and her not sharing this rather significant situation with him can vry easily be taken (by Kunj) as her lack of trust in him. He didn't tell her to leave, not even when his mother was on the countdown, Twinkle left.

Kunj is hurt by what he percieves as Twinkle's lack of faith in him and extremely vulnerable with his father in the ICU. At this point, with his mother also threatening to end her life, if he didn't stop Twinkle from leaving, I get it. I think it's a very natural thing for him to do.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32
Honestly, those are exactly my thoughts too but at the end of the day this is an indian daily soap and showing female characters who stand up for themselves and not sacrifice their happiness in name of honor and family respect and other things, it'll be the end of all the soaps that are running and gaining high TRPs and making ton of money.
One of the other things is that in south asian society, an individual's happiness means nothing literally. We live our lives for other's prestige and honor. When people start realizing their worth as an individual in our society and the portrayal of self-worth is shown in a sensitive and perfect manner, only then we'll be able to see a shift.

If something like this was happening in real life, I would've condemned it from every angle because sacrificing your worth for somebody else who doesn't even stand by you is useless.

i sound so abrupt but posting this from phone so that what i can manage.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I also believe that they should get a divorce and what the hell is she doing in a relationship where there is no trust and self respect. If I was in her postion that I would except my husband to stand up for me if he doesn't do that than he doesn't deserve my emotions at all like what the hell is she doing in that kind of relationship. She was to be a strong independent woman how should stand up for her self. She is not in a relationship where there is true love so they should totally get a divorce and start a new life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ok first off. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I am one who respects that not just in cases of tv dramas but in real life. So I am not against you or calling you or any others who have sided this way.
In my eyes the situation: Twinkle and Kunj are two people who would do anything for their families because family comes first. And I could not agree with you more that Twinkle has experienced hell and that she is not appreciated enough. That girl needs a break and is not being able to get one and my heart truly truly goes out to her.

Kunj not trusting her is because of the situation. His father is in a coma and his mother tried to kill herself and i know you took that into account but still. That plays a huge factor especially for a person like Kunj. It clouds his mind. And it is not that Kunj thinks she leaked the video. He knows she would never do that and may I say THANK GOD. Because if he did not believe her in that sense i think I would have lost my cool. Because if he thinks she could leak the video after everything they have been through then he truly truly does not know her. He trusts her he did with Yuvi thing when it comes to Mahi.

I don't think Kunj has forgotten anything. I don't think he forgot all the horrible things that has happened to her because he would do anything to keep her happy and bring a smile on her face. I mean he was ready to shift to another country which is something he refused to do with Alisha. Kunj as flaws like any human being and I believe at some times we forget that when it comes to Kunj. And one of his flaws is his reluctance to look at other things when it comes to family. There is one problem I view and I think needs to fixed soon: it is the fact that he does not take her part of HIS family. It is not that he has not accepted her, he has I mean he was about to confess his love to her. And he also takes Twinkle's family as his we have seen his love for Twinkle (this paragraph sounds like one of my other posts sorry! It was yesterday i think) It is the fact that he hasnt taken her part of his family. This in pov is because of Usha. Since she, a person who he values at most, does not accept her it is hard for him to accept her as family. He loves her but he needs to accept her as family not just their relationship, he needs to understand hamare, hamari, and hum applies to his family when she is talking too. And she does care and he knows but he needs to take in that when he talks about his family, twinkle is a part of it too she is not a part of another family because she is right fully a Sarna. This is my one complaint.

As for trust again. In this MU its not trust that has bothered him. It is betrayal! He is not able to digest the fact that she did not tell him. He is one person who does not like secrets, which is seen during the lodge episode. He had an outburst for her keeping stuff away from him. For a marriage to work their cannot be secrets and he can't take that. I think if she had not hid it from Kunj, and even just told him a day before the heart attack he would not have reacted this way. It was mix of everything together. Especially since they were at a point of confession where he thought everything was normal between them and to be delivered with the news that his wife knew all of this but did not tell him is a shock for him that is not so digestable.

In the case of a divorce. To me a separation is needed. One so Twinkle can become stronger, two so they miss each other (more on Kunj's side maybe), and the realization of his mistake and the need and want to win her back. I don't think she should accept his apologizes easily because he does i agree he does need to realize what kind of a girl Twinkle is and he should be happy and lucky to have her has his wife not just her being lucky to have him as her husband. But a divorce is a bit to far for me. Because a divorce happens when things get far like far farl And it is not so easy to get a divorce. There needs to be an even bigger problem for me to get a divorce because in the middle of it all they do love each other and why separate permanently when you need the other.

I might sound like a huge Kunj supporter right now and I know. I do not support him completely but I am not ready to blame him and end their relationship completely. He needs to repent what he has done but situations present and past need to be taken into account I believe. Just my perspective.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Filmi_Samy


Alrite so I am back!

I am in the minority but I am loving this track now yet again! There is no right and wrong here! I was kinda upset to when I read the update but when I saw it .. It changed!

The particular scene people were mentioning was brilliantly done! Kunj never took out his frustration in front of people - the bedroom scene was basically an inner battle - where he admits his family means the world to him but he is also torn for the person who he loved!

Twinkle not coming to him feels like a betrayal because he kept on saying the foundation of any relationship is trust! Even when Twinkle confronted him about the farmhouse incident! the Lodge incident! So what I loved was they remained true to his character! He still has not done away with the relationship .. I dont know what the will show next

In reality - this is what happens! I know this is fiction but this is reality where majority of the times husbands undermine all the scarifies made by their wives. Just one incident can ruin everything. From the very start whether it was the karwa chauth incident, or surjeet uncle incident! Kunj has said for him 'His family is everything' and somewhere he still thinks that its just his family not Twinkle's maybe because his mom has not still accepted her. But its always about "mera parivaar' 'meri maa' 'meri family'! On the other hand it was Twinkle who said 'Humara Parivaar'! Thats the difference between both of them!

He trusts the fact that she wasnt the one to leak the photos - but his anger is based on hiding the truth! two different things- even when anita aunty was talking jazz today he said you always need something to target twinkle. So its not like he doesnt trust her when it comes to 'His family'. Like I said its an inner battle! HIs confrontation in the room is about him and his wife's trust!

I will agree that Twinkle needs time out - she needs to come out as a strong woman and focus on her identity! Because thats she is today's gen x girl - where been an independent woman is seen as her strength and not weakness!

Completely agree on the bold part! But then he is human to - we cant be perfect

Marriages - are based on trust, love and respect - out of three things the biggest one is missing and i guess it comes with time! Thats why they say it takes few instances to gain someones trust but it takes ages to maintain it!

Divorce is harsh for now - lets see how things unfold!

Keep smiling! I think i got to philo here!




Divorce is way out of the league... But I dont know CVs what they have in mnd... they could do anything in the name of TRPs...
And your take on Kunj... where is he not trusting her... he did... he did trust that the girl in the video is not her... despite the family blamed her... despite the shock he just faced...
And he just got to know... what big secret she had kept from him... how would he over come that...he feels like cheated... yes Twinkle did what was right and all at the moment... but how would he able to see all that in clear light... so early when another shocker comes to him... that Manohar is in coma... does any1 understands... he could die any moment... any moment... I just dont understand why every1 is not giving Kunj a break... I too am... pissed off at him.. but I still understand what hes doing why hes doing...
Dont u all remember the FarmHouse MU... how Twinkle lashed out at him in the name of RT... out of the blue... that kind of thing he, that kind of insult he forgave her in a day... but here his fathers life is at stake... yes Twinkle did not pierce Manohars heart with a Knife... but right now he is just seeing she hid the truth...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx


It doesn't matter about what we want. What matters is what's needed for these characters to grow.

I don't want them to be together if they're going to be stuck in those loop for the rest of their life. They need to figure themselves out, what they want from each other, and then decide if their relationship is worth having.

Are u from India , curious 😆
Let get this India people are married at 18 heck have kids by 21 and they grow along commit blunders and get back a lot of shit happens not so easy as people in west have it 😆
I am sorry if it is offending but fact Indians have long way to go on this when people are married shit happens hae seen lot and ppl pull through , this is just a small matter bigger shits happen in real life and ppl still stick together like nothing happended
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Posted: 9 years ago
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OMGGG NAHIII!!! LETS NOT TALK ABT DIVROCE YAAR WARNA ILL HAVE A HEART ATTACK LIKE MANUHAR--KUNJ BABY IS JUST FRUSTRATED :(
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .FlightOfEagle.

Usha surely deserves It from twinkle and so does everyone else.

But it is highly unlikely to happen because Its a daily soap and CAN we expect this to happen?
Maybe not!
All walls should be broken no they have to break,Until then its just going to ger more and more complicated.


Because it's a daily soap we can expect shit from them. Will they treat this in a serious manner? No. They're going to gloss it over just like all the other horrible and serious issues in the past.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Filmi_Samy

I can understand- one of those days - but you know something - its good to let things out! atleast there is someone to hear you out!


Seriously, the entire day I have had people pissing me off with their insensitivity and ignorance. Like, would it kill you to BE a human being for once?

And today, I just feel like no matter how many times I put my point across, no one is going to understand it. So it's basically just me yelling at a brick wall.

Ahh i like this track - i really hope they show each other as business rivals - they would remain true to the title of the show.

cheery up for now .. 🤗

There are so many brilliant tracks that they can do but they still opt for the same ghissi phitti saas bahu crap. 😡

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Originally posted by: ZawraMalik

I actually agree with you in some points ..
M not geting whts going on all this kunj saing dont wanna see her face and all..
its enough for twinkle crying crying all the time..
poor girl has to prove herself again..
time to do something for your self as you said..
usha can go to hell seriously..
but kunj needs to think what he did ...and rwinkle was nit at fault this time.. he needs to regrat a bigg one this time...
Kunj made me sad today.. he thought this is all becuz of her.. and i didnt like that..


More than sad, Kunj is pissing me off because I have learnt of so much other shit that he did against Twinkle and it's pissing me off even more that people are expecting me to let this one time go because the way Kunj reacted was normal for this situation.

No.

I don't care if his reactions were normal or abnormal, if he keeps this up he is going to create a highly toxic dynamic in their relationship. And this is going to go both ways. Kunj will either keep getting angry or fail to stand up for because he cannot speak against his family (mother), and Twinkle will keep crying and try to prove her innocence.

Enough is enough.

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