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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: asmaanixx


Because it's a daily soap we can expect shit from them. Will they treat this in a serious manner? No. They're going to gloss it over just like all the other horrible and serious issues in the past.

Shit is supposed to happen!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: asmaanixx



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Then go right ahead but I'm standing by my words.</font>

😆 I dont want to go jail
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Posted: 9 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: sue1o1

Hi!

Well first off, new here (kind of), yeah, Greetings!!

And, btw, I really like your OS and stuff here on Twinkle and Kunj. You write real well! 😊

Secondly, you're obviously entitled to your opinion, but personally I think you are being way too harsh on Kunj. And honestly I think that has a lot to do with you not having watched the episodes.

Yes, Kunj is mad at her but he does still TRUST her. And he has made that rather clear in both the episodes since the hospital scene. First, when he directly tells her that he knows she will not tarnish the name of his family or do anything to harm them on purpose and second, when he defended her against Anita today, he explicitly told her that 'Twinkle mein bachpan zaroor hai, but she would never do such a thing to spoil the name of his family on purpose'.
He is mad at her for keeping this from him, and he always made it clear he wants her to trust him and her not sharing this rather significant situation with him can vry easily be taken (by Kunj) as her lack of trust in him. He didn't tell her to leave, not even when his mother was on the countdown, Twinkle left.

Kunj is hurt by what he percieves as Twinkle's lack of faith in him and extremely vulnerable with his father in the ICU. At this point, with his mother also threatening to end her life, if he didn't stop Twinkle from leaving, I get it. I think it's a very natural thing for him to do.


Hey,

Thanks for the comment on the OS but you chose a really bad time to introduce yourself to me. (Not really in a particularly good mood.)

Actually, I am being lenient on Kunj. I have a really deep and emotional connection with this fictional character and I have always supported him. However, this time around, he is in the wrong.

His anger on Twinkle not trusting him enough to share a vital information about his father with him is one thing. But to have him not support her when everyone is blaming her and putting her in the wrong is another. To have him do this not once, but multiple times is what's wrong. To have him go against his words and promises of being by her side, and protecting her from each and every harm is wrong.

He may not have told Twinkle to leave, but he didn't stop her either. What kind of respect does that show? Is that how much value he has for his wife? At this point, I'm not talking about the one-on-one relationship that Twinkle and Kunj have. They have a different understanding of each other. But what matters the most in situations like this is how relationships are perceived by the public - i.e. the family. They cannot treat Twinkle like she is in the wrong every time she is accused of something. We had RT humiliate Twinkle in public when she was accused of throwing acid onto Mahi. Now, she has been accused of sending those photographs to the media. What reputation does Twinkle have in the family? On one hand people think that a sister threw acid onto her younger sister because she couldn't see her happy. Now, we will have people gossiping that a daughter-in-law sent vulgar pictures of her father-in-law to the media.

What does that say about Twinkle? Everyone is so concerned about Kunj and Twinkle's relationship in its unity, but what about Twinkle as an individual character? You can't be a strong unit if the foundation that the relationship is standing upon has been crumbled from the start.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: areeba_blossom

Honestly, those are exactly my thoughts too but at the end of the day this is an indian daily soap and showing female characters who stand up for themselves and not sacrifice their happiness in name of honor and family respect and other things, it'll be the end of all the soaps that are running and gaining high TRPs and making ton of money.

One of the other things is that in south asian society, an individual's happiness means nothing literally. We live our lives for other's prestige and honor. When people start realizing their worth as an individual in our society and the portrayal of self-worth is shown in a sensitive and perfect manner, only then we'll be able to see a shift.

If something like this was happening in real life, I would've condemned it from every angle because sacrificing your worth for somebody else who doesn't even stand by you is useless.

i sound so abrupt but posting this from phone so that what i can manage.


Your first paragraph makes my whole argument moot. Because this is a daily soap, we can't expect to see these issues be addressed. If we do, then the general audience (aunties) will get pissed off for the 'wrong message' that is being delivered.

Again, how can you expect to make others happy when you're miserable yourself? Now, I don't know how the mental health issue is handled in India, but the thought process of sacrificing your wishes, wants, and most importantly needs, is so damaging. If you cannot grow as a person, figure out who you are, not allow yourself to be treated like shit, then I don't know how you're going to teach future generations to be strong.

The future is prosperous only through healthy minds and if communal prosperity is prioritized higher than the individual mind before it has a chance to solidify... then I'm sorry, but that future is going to be bleak.

You may have been abrupt, but your words made perfect sense, so don't worry about it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#45
Frankly speaking i love kunj a lot di but now i seriously feel that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!!
Yaar how many times will we face the same thingy ''TWINKLE ALWAYS HAS TO PROVE HER INNOCENCE'' like seriously CVs...
I'm really frustrated...this girl has done countless things for HIS family...just think KUNJ...why on EARTH will she try to tarnish ur family's reputation???? WHY.

AND even when she hid the TRUTH she had REASONS behind that and the main reason was that she PROMISED he FIL that she won't tell anyone about this whole thing!!!! But NOOO u will always find FAULT in her...areey she also this bcoz she did not want to create more RIFT in between u two!!! which u already had with ur DAD!!!

Gurleen Di now i seriously feel that they shud get DIVORCE and person to give the papars to the other shud be NONE OTHER THAN TWINKLE TANEJA!!!!
It's high time now CVs seriously do something and that to FAST!!!

BTW WONDERFUL POST DI!!!😳👏





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Posted: 9 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: asmaanixx


Hey,

Thanks for the comment on the OS but you chose a really bad time to introduce yourself to me. (Not really in a particularly good mood.)

Actually, I am being lenient on Kunj. I have a really deep and emotional connection with this fictional character and I have always supported him. However, this time around, he is in the wrong.

His anger on Twinkle not trusting him enough to share a vital information about his father with him is one thing. But to have him not support her when everyone is blaming her and putting her in the wrong is another. To have him do this not once, but multiple times is what's wrong. To have him go against his words and promises of being by her side, and protecting her from each and every harm is wrong.

He may not have told Twinkle to leave, but he didn't stop her either. What kind of respect does that show? Is that how much value he has for his wife? At this point, I'm not talking about the one-on-one relationship that Twinkle and Kunj have. They have a different understanding of each other. But what matters the most in situations like this is how relationships are perceived by the public - i.e. the family. They cannot treat Twinkle like she is in the wrong every time she is accused of something. We had RT humiliate Twinkle in public when she was accused of throwing acid onto Mahi. Now, she has been accused of sending those photographs to the media. What reputation does Twinkle have in the family? On one hand people think that a sister threw acid onto her younger sister because she couldn't see her happy. Now, we will have people gossiping that a daughter-in-law sent vulgar pictures of her father-in-law to the media.

What does that say about Twinkle? Everyone is so concerned about Kunj and Twinkle's relationship in its unity, but what about Twinkle as an individual character? You can't be a strong unit if the foundation that the relationship is standing upon has been crumbled from the start.


I would say that I soo agree with you gurleen,I have time to time again and again expressed that kunj is my most favr. onscreen make character till date,I dont know but I hvae a connect with him and it is not like I hate him right now or I am just disspointed because its not what I expected.

Its not just about his anger,okay somewhere his hurt and anger is justified but What I want to convey with my posts that in all this My heart goes out for twinkle she has always suffered no mattered what,Even if she does something right or wrong no matter what,Life has never been easy for her,Now she gets to be blamed for everything and treatment that she is getting from usha the forcefull exit from the house just made me cringe🥱

Moving on to Okay I know kunj wouldnt have said anything when usha picked up the knife,but before that when usha was oushing twinkle out of the house,it was bebe who stopped twinkle but her eyes was on kunj she wanted him to say something anything maybe just her name or something,an indication that he does not want her to leave.

Okay I agree he was hurt and helplessness was visible on his face when she said I will leave but for once for her sake maybe if he would have said anything it would have meant alot,the way she looked back at him although she looked at everyone but her eyes were just on him.
I don't know why But Still I am not able to get over it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Phycho

Frankly speaking i love kunj a lot di but now i seriously feel that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!!
Yaar how many times will we face the same thingy ''TWINKLE ALWAYS HAS TO PROVE HER INNOCENCE'' like seriously CVs...
I'm really frustrated...this girl has done countless things for HIS family...just think KUNJ...why on EARTH will she try to tarnish ur family's reputation???? WHY.

AND even when she hid the TRUTH she had REASONS behind that and the main reason was that she PROMISED he FIL that she won't tell anyone about this whole thing!!!! But NOOO u will always find FAULT in her...areey she also this bcoz she did not want to create more RIFT in between u two!!! which u already had with ur DAD!!!

I mean I have said many times her reasons were legit and she should not be blamed for hiding the truth,But you remeber kunj even defied her reasons saying ki 'Kya hota papa se jo bachi khuchi baat thi woh bhi band ho jata but yeh sab toh hota',What hurts me the most in all this is that All her efforsts and hardships she faced have been ignored and over looked.

Gurleen Di now i seriously feel that they shud get DIVORCE and person to give the papars to the other shud be NONE OTHER THAN TWINKLE TANEJA!!!!
It's high time now CVs seriously do something and that to FAST!!!

BTW WONDERFUL POST DI!!!😳👏





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Posted: 9 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: superwomanjazz

I also believe that they should get a divorce and what the hell is she doing in a relationship where there is no trust and self respect. If I was in her postion that I would except my husband to stand up for me if he doesn't do that than he doesn't deserve my emotions at all like what the hell is she doing in that kind of relationship. She was to be a strong independent woman how should stand up for her self. She is not in a relationship where there is true love so they should totally get a divorce and start a new life.


The no self-respect is what bothers me the most! I personally feel that Twinkle is losing all sense of identity which is really harmful for her.

She has continuously stated she will do anything for Mahi. Jump off a building, or burn her hands with fiery coals. Keep herself underwater until she is close to drowning or purposely go to a dangerous place where her honor could be targeted.

She has reached a stage where she no longer cares about the pain she is going through as long as her family is happy. This type of mentality isn't honorable, nor should it be promoted. Twinkle should think of herself as it is her life that is at stake.

If she dies, does she really think she's going to be praised for her valor? She isn't going to be remembered for all the sacrifices that she made. Rather, the Sarna family would begin to find another daughter-in-law so that Kunj doesn't feel 'lonely' or that he doesn't become too depressed. This type of sacrificial mentality needs to be let go and importance to the individual healthy mind really needs to be promoted.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Personally, I'm not watching any of the episodes, but Hrideyy is keeping me up to date on what's happening every day. So thank you for that! <3

Now, as for what happened today, I'm NOT happy! 😳

Here's why:

Kunj's lack of belief and trust in Twinkle at this stage of their lives and relationship is unacceptable. These two have risked their lives numerous times for each other. Whether Kunj is poisoned, his family is kidnapped, they're placed in a gas chamber, or in any situation they have put their lives in mortal danger, there has been an irreplaceable trust and faith in each other.

Situations like these do not break relations. They increase the strength in them and solidify them to face even harsher situations for the future. They harden so that they do not break so easily due to the bad weather around them.

Here?

They have made it seem like as if all those events had never occurred.

Just recently, we saw Twinkle not care about her life, her dignity or reputation when it came to her sister. The sister who hates her guts. How can Kunj believe that she would so willingly tarnish the Sarna family's name like that? That to against the very father-in-law who was the most eager to bring her to this house, and has treated her like a daughter? Not to mention, this is the same woman who made herself sick by praying at the gurudwara to alleviate all the problems that had fallen onto their house.


How could Kunj just forget that?

Granted, it is his parents. Granted he has gotten a shock knowing that his dad has gone into a coma and Usha just threatened to kill herself. For a moment, he had to face the risk of losing both his parents at one time.

But does that justify his reasoning behind not trusting his wife? The wife who has done more than she should have to not only save his life but to better it?

Just a few episodes ago, we saw this man risking his life to save Twinkle's when she went underwater. If he does not love or trust her, then why would he do such a thing? Shortly after that, we saw him making full efforts to restart their relationship on a clean slate, without any of the negative complications that had confounded their marital journey. Why would he do that if he did not wish to spend the rest of his life with her? Why would he do that if he did not see something in her that made him think, yes, this is the woman who will love and respect not only me but my family as well.

Just... what is going on in his head when he goes against Twinkle?? The justifications never tally up with his actions, and frankly, I feel like they are butchering his character this way.

Exactly my point I dont know if his character is bieng butchered or not but one thing I know is that I have been dissapointed this time and I have provided enough reasons to show my disspointment,I do not over look the fact thathe is hurt,he felt betrayed by her,he felt bad that she hid such a big thing from from but everym=one overlooks her reasons for doing so,said and done.

And Twinkle.

This woman has endured SO MUCH abuse and yet she sticks around for this bloody, ungrateful family. Now that she's gone, I want her to STAY gone. Like, I want her AS FAR away from the Sarna's as she possibly can.

I want a divorce. And not some metaphorical bullshit either. A legal, court ordered divorce.

Kunj should use this time to focus on his studies and build himself a career. With Manohar out of the way and unable to guide him, Kunj needs to start figuring his shit out. He can't busy himself with all the kitchen politics when he has a family to care of financially.

Twinkle should start regaining her identity as a strong and independent woman. She needs to learn how to build up her self-esteem, her self-confidence and the will to fight against family members when they ARE wrong! Not silently take in their crap and let it all slide.

Make her focus on building up her own career and give her a direction, purpose and motivation to do something that is OUTSIDE of the Sarna family. That is outside of regaining her sister's trust, her winning against the evils of the Luthra family or even outside of KUNJ! Lord knows, this guy doesn't deserve any of her love as of yet.

Let these two grow at their own rate into individuals first before they can be tied together. The whole basis of their marital relationship was wrong and that is the root cause of every wrong thing that has happened in their life. I'm not talking about the Farmhouse Misunderstanding specifically, but the whole concept of them getting married to each other against their will. They didn't have trust in each other nor the want to be together. Yes, they have fulfilled their individual roles of being a husband and of a being a wife, but those are two separate roles. They have never been together as husband and wife.

They have always remained at this stage where they try to build a relationship with hollow words and empty promises. When it comes to enact upon them, they never work out, especially from Kunj's side. More so than Twinkle, Kunj has been the one to make these grandiose promises of being by her side at every step of the way, supporting her in every fight etc. But when it comes down to it, he just never lives up to those words. He never gives Twinkle the benefit of the doubt, or try to listen to her defense. He always assumes the worst of her and then goes back grovelling for forgiveness when he's proven wrong.

I really don't like this dynamic between them as it signifies an unhealthy relationship.
AGreed

I do not know If I really want a divorce or not but one thing that I surely want is to both of to realise thier self worth and to realise what they actually have in mind for each other,what they feel for each other at heart,I was so hurt to see kunj running away to his car stepping on the ballons leaving her behind,he could have held her hand and took her with but but as always she followed,I dont want neither I mean that he should put twinkle above his family,but least he can do is to place her equal to his family,to give her equal priority that he has for his family,Ism't she a part of your family? My biggest question and I soo want someone to ask this question to kunj it would be great if twinkle herself asks this question to him,there ought be an answer for him, I so want to see the day where kunj will grow from "Meri Family To Hamari family",because for twinkle its Hamari Family,But for him its still Meri family.

Twinkle is abused, cries, is accused and abandoned by Kunj, fights to prove herself right and then Kunj comes back to apologize. Yes, there are moments and times when Kunj is by her side, supporting her. However, how meaningful is that support when he is doing it half-heartedly? Is he by her side because he has to as he is her husband or is he with her because he wants to? Who is Kunj doing all this for? Is it for Twinkle or is it to quench his doubts and find a reason to trust and believe in her?

When he acts in relation to Twinkle, it is never entirely selflessly. There is always an ulterior motive - how much can I trust her?

Remember, this is the girl that kept her affair with Yuvi hidden from her mother. This is also the woman who refused to believe in Kunj's integrity and accused him of raping her.

She cannot be easily trusted and no matter what Kunj says, he will never, ever fully trust her again. Can I say I coompletely second that.

I'm going to end this off now as it is getting extremely long and a more in-depth analysis can be done on the motivations, and insecurities of both those characters - especially Kunj's.

But the fact remains that I strongly stand by the suggestion of having Twinkle and Kunj get a legal divorce, build themselves up as individuals, become stronger and more comfortable, and more confident with who they are, and then proceed to see if they work together as a single unit. Because the way they are operating right now, highly says otherwise.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: 3dancelover

This in pov is because of Usha. Since she, a person who he values at most, does not accept her it is hard for him to accept her as family. He loves her but he needs to accept her as family not just their relationship, he needs to understand hamare, hamari, and hum applies to his family when she is talking too. And she does care and he knows but he needs to take in that when he talks about his family, twinkle is a part of it too she is not a part of another family because she is right fully a Sarna. This is my one complaint.

As for trust again. In this MU its not trust that has bothered him. It is betrayal! He is not able to digest the fact that she did not tell him. He is one person who does not like secrets, which is seen during the lodge episode. He had an outburst for her keeping stuff away from him. For a marriage to work their cannot be secrets and he can't take that. I think if she had not hid it from Kunj, and even just told him a day before the heart attack he would not have reacted this way. It was mix of everything together. Especially since they were at a point of confession where he thought everything was normal between them and to be delivered with the news that his wife knew all of this but did not tell him is a shock for him that is not so digestable.

In the case of a divorce. To me a separation is needed. One so Twinkle can become stronger, two so they miss each other (more on Kunj's side maybe), and the realization of his mistake and the need and want to win her back. I don't think she should accept his apologizes easily because he does i agree he does need to realize what kind of a girl Twinkle is and he should be happy and lucky to have her has his wife not just her being lucky to have him as her husband. But a divorce is a bit to far for me. Because a divorce happens when things get far like far farl And it is not so easy to get a divorce. There needs to be an even bigger problem for me to get a divorce because in the middle of it all they do love each other and why separate permanently when you need the other.

I might sound like a huge Kunj supporter right now and I know. I do not support him completely but I am not ready to blame him and end their relationship completely. He needs to repent what he has done but situations present and past need to be taken into account I believe. Just my perspective.


The family point:

His family no longer consists of biological parents and siblings. Twinkle is a part of that family whether Usha accepts it or not. Twinkle has down so much for the family but yet she refuses to accept her! Even Bebe pointed this out to Usha. Twinkle has done so much but yet all Usha can do is find ways to crib about her. Usha had replied saying that all the problems that have been caused have been because of Twinkle. While that may be true, it is wrong to think Twinkle purposely committed any wrong against the family. Whatever wrong or ill deed may have been conducted against the family because of her, Twinkle has tried to rectify.

Kunj cannot postpone his decision in accepting Twinkle into his family because of Usha. If he does, then Twinkle will never get to be a part of that family because no matter how hard she tries, Twinkle will never be able to earn a place in Usha's heart.

The secrets point:

That point of yours has made Kunj into a hypocrite. You say that he is a man who does not like secrets, but yet that is all that he has ever done. His desire to get married to Alisha - a secret. Him keeping Twinkle and Yuvi's relationship hidden - a secret. Him keeping the truth about RT from Twinkle - a secret. How can a man claim to hate secrets when he has so many of his own?

Winning her back:

Twinkle isn't some prize that has been lost and needs to be won back. He needs to earn her trust and respect and have her voluntarily come back to him. Out of HER own will, not because he manages to please her for a day.

Divorce:

So how far do you want things to get? Until she's dead or almost raped again? Lord knows this man has failed to protect her from harm when she needed his help the most. And I'm not talking about physical help. That anyone can do. What I'm talking about is the emotional and mental support that a husband and wife need to maintain their relationship. They misunderstand each other on the littlest of things and the lack of communication between them blow things up in huge proportions.

There is no point in having a destructive love that is only going to give an eternity of misery and a few days of bliss.

If we're talking about Kunj, then I am the biggest supporter that he will ever have. Today is the first time that I am calling him out on his shit because what he has done and is doing is wrong. And I'm not going to stand back and have everyone gloss it over as a one time thing because it's not.

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