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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: temishfan

I would just like to say laksh is no more ragini's obsession. .she loves him truly. Stop saying that ragini doesn't love him...

Once she was obsessed with him but after laksh ditched her she learnt her lesson and never once tried to break laksh and kavya marriage...if it would have been old ragini she would have again done something to get laksh but she dint because she is clearly over her obsession but yes she loves him a lot...more than anything and laksh will always be her first priority


Sure she loves him now and no body has any doubt (even SwaSan fans) that Laksh is her first priority. Laksh will always be her first priority. But that doesnt mean she should support him in whatever he does, just to give him temporary peace and happiness. Especially when she knows that its not just gonna cost HER LAKSH but the entire family, including her. She cannot see minor injuries on HER LAKSH, she cannot see HER LAKSH in lock up for ONE NIGHT. Right? Coz she loves him so much. So why for once neither of them analyze that if Laksh is not stopped, he is gonna return home everyday with even major injuries and if he gets caught, he would spend life time in jail. Who will suffer the most with that? Ragini right?
Is she still gonna sit and cry and say "Laksh hum jaante hai, aapne jo kiya woh apne ma papa ke liye" when he will arrested and jailed for like 5 to 10 years? Or she will go and stay in jail with him to nibhao her pati vrata dharm?
Love shouldn't make one blind or weak. It should be able to give you enough strength to be able to tell your husband that even though your intention is right, whatever you are doing is not only wrong but extremely dangerous and you need to stop.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur_5

Hey Shona,

So here is my take about 3 characters of SR who just boggles my mind!
I'm not a serial person but watched some & there was few characters who I used to get irritated with, used to dislike & hate but in certain extent I used to understand them!
Bt these 3 unbelievable characters, I just simply don't understand!
Laksh - The first character of SR who made me irritated, frustated just after 1 week bcoz of impulsive, bratty, spoiled nature! Who never learn from his own mistakes, heck he hardly acknowledge his mistakes! He only acknowledged his mistakes regarding Kavya Bt never realized or acknowledged his other mistakes which he did since beginning! In this current track as well,
I understand his POV, his depression, aggression! Bt I don't support his actions! I know every person deals with problems different way & react different way as well bt that doesn't mean he will deal with problems with the support of wrong & illegal way! Bcoz that's not a way in the first place! So I can't give a benefit of doubt to him bcoz his doings & actions invited this things! Even Sanskaar didn't get him arrested & AdRi made him beaten, in future he would have got into big problems! He would have fall in deeper hole from where he would have no way out! As Sanskaar rightly said, it's easy to way in bt no way out!
And he turned into a deaf & decided not to pay a heed to his family's words & decided to continue doing illegal things! As I said, I understand his situation but that doesn't mean you will do wrong things!
YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING RIGHT BY DOING WRONG!
Then what will be the difference between AdRi & Laksh? Bcoz if Laksh is doing something wrong for his parents sake then AdRi also doing lots of heinous things for their own sake & benefit!?
No matter how good or justifiable your reason is a wrong is wrong! And I would have given Laksh some sympathy if he tried a better & right path before going wrong at the first place bt no, he didn't even tried!
Ragini - Now the character I just don't understand and boggles my mind most is Ragini without any doubt!
Which way her mind works actually? I try so hard to understand her so that I can give her some leeway or benefit of doubts or simply can tolerate her Bt I always fail! I just can't fathom her!
I don't support Laksh or neither I sympathize with him Bt still I understand him & his situation alil. Bt if I don't understand anyone that is Ragini! Why she is in dilemma? Being a wife she should make Laksh understand! Why she is supporting him?
I was so shocked yesterday bcoz it was her who doubted Laksh behavior at the first place & she was so worried thinking what if her LakshJi choose a wrong path? Bt yesterday she forbade everyone to ask Laksh anything & trusted him blindly that too immediately when Laksh's reasons were not convincing! No I understand & know that she loves Laksh like obsessively bt she could have said that let Laksh rest & question him later! Bt she just got furious when others tried to inquire him! And today, she just... (I don't know what should I say or how to express what I'm feeling)
And after knowing the truth, she should make Laksh understand for his own betterment! And if he don't listen then she should use his love for her & her love for him to stop him! Bt she is supporting him & justifying his actions!? What the hell!?
Someone were saying that she loves Laksh obsessively that's why supporting him - Bt this also don't make any sense! Bcoz as she loves him & he is her obsession, she should refrain him for his own betterment! He will face more problems & grave dangers if he continues! So I expected her not to stand against him bt stand against his doings! Bt she disappointed me ONCE AGAIN!
Even if someone says that when it comes to Laksh, she forget everything then she should think about it more bcoz here not anyone else but Laksh's life is at stakes! Why on earth she is supporting him when he is digging his own hole? It's not about others bt about Laksh! She is not being a supportive or even a loving wife Bt being a stupid, dumb AGAIN!
Ragini being stupid or dumb don't surprise me anymore as she is always like this Bt what surprise me is she is being a stupid, idiotic & dumd regarding Laksh and that too when his life is being ruined? She never cease to disappoint me! She is thinking about his temporary peace by neglecting his permanent doom? Why she always thinks that she is the only one who cares for Laksh not Sanskaar or anyone else!? Why she can't understand what Sanskaar did, did for his brother?
She can't tolerate Laksh being in jail for one night & will not be able to see him beaten bt why didn't she think that if Laksh continues, he will be imprisoned for life time and will be beaten more!? And more than that his whole life will be destroyed!?
God, Ragini is a character which neither irritate me anymore, nor frustrates me or neither evokes any hatred! Actually I don't feel any emotion for this character! She is just simply unbearable!
Dadi - Ragini is seriously the parchaayi of Dadi and both thinks same way which actually made no sense at all. Dadi's whole world revolves around Ragini even more than her own son Shekhar! I'm also surprised that she didn't think about her Ladoo's precious obsession LakshJi? Bt then again Ragini is her obsession and she will keep her to herself! And will use Laksh to torture MM-Wasis not bothering that it will be torturous for her Laado as well and maybe after Ragini getting Laksh out, she will give place to RagLak? Who knows how her head works!
These 3 characters! Specially Ragini!
Only CVs of SR knows them!


Completely second you Nupur!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .IamShonali.


Akansha, even I get the theory of sometimes it is ok to lie to do something right. But it also depends on what the lie is and what it can cost you?
Laksh said SwaSan are always immandar. Yes they are, but they have also chosen different ways. They also lied but they have made sure that it doesnt affect anyone.

Take for example SwaSan's fake marriage lie, it didnt cost them anything. It was still a lie but when they finally won, BOTH of them gained the lost respect and trust from everyone.

While when RagLak faked pregnancy, they lost the respect and trust they both have gained from the family.

And Swara, she also took a wrong step by stealing something that belonged to her. She had a right on it. Even when she shouldn't be, she was punished for it. It just affected her and not anyone else. That was not gonna affect her life or her family's. Even Swara took that step to save DP's life and arrange money for DP. But still. This was not dangerous. Nor it would have costed Swara her life. Yes, what happened at the police station was something not asked for. But she still got out of it. This wasnt some kind of addiction that she kept doing.

And Laksh is getting into something VERY dangerous. It will not only cost him but his whole family. No matter what anyone says, he just doesnt listen. And Ragini, what good intentions she is talking about? Everyone is AWARE of Laksh's good intentions. Even SwaSan. And if it wasnt something major, SwaSan wouldnt have stopped or interfered. They just dont sit and analyze that even if they have chosen the wrong path, how WRONG that path is. The path that they have chosen is not gonna make anything RIGHT no matter how GOOOD their intentions are. Seriously!! they both are blind. Laksh is blind in anger and Ragini is blind in her love. They both just cannot see beyond that.


I know u get the theory shonali my point is that in case of Ragini, dadi n lakshay that theory is applied by them in extremes. Swasan use this theory like normal people, but these characters in swaragini have always been on the extremes.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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When people do wrong, some do it out of ignorance.. others do it knowing fully well that they are doing wrong but they are still able to do it cuz they are so much sold on the cause that they are ok with crossing moral n ethical boundaries... ragini n now laksh are of the second kind... they are so emotionally sold on the cause - ragini with her love and laksh his parents that they don't mind crossing over to the dark side... I hear people saying ragini is justifying her actions but that is not so.. the writer is only trying to tell through the character this girl was/is so much sold on the why that the how did not n doesn't matter... they are not trying to convince the audience but the character writing is such... emotionally weak people they are.. they cannot be convinced by logic...

I totally get them and their characters..in fact I would say that ragini n laksh are good characters to explore cause of their flaws in an interesting manner but alas they are written very callously when they could have actually been compelling characters to watch if written well.. but pani to sar se Nikal Gaya..

Dadi's character graph am not convinced too much.. but like the woman said, she wouldn't mind being devious to bring her loved ones on their knees... she is doing everything for ragini but she would only give it to ragini when she comes back to her Dadi... same goes for shekhar... I love u but ghutne teko n come to me..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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One more thing I would like to add.. I think after so long, the show is at an interesting juncture but thei writers track record has been bad, they build up well but when the track has to take off, it slips... the only point where the tempo was maintained was the raglak marriage twist culminating in swasan marriage n ragini's exposure..

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lonelythots

When people do wrong, some do it out of ignorance.. others do it knowing fully well that they are doing wrong but they are still able to do it cuz they are so much sold on the cause that they are ok with crossing moral n ethical boundaries... ragini n now laksh are of the second kind... they are so emotionally sold on the cause - ragini with her love and laksh his parents that they don't mind crossing over to the dark side... I hear people saying ragini is justifying her actions but that is not so.. the writer is only trying to tell through the character this girl was/is so much sold on the why that the how did not n doesn't matter... they are not trying to convince the audience but the character writing is such... emotionally weak people they are.. they cannot be convinced by logic...

I totally get them and their characters..in fact I would say that ragini n laksh are good characters to explore cause of their flaws in an interesting manner but alas they are written very callously when they could have actually been compelling characters to watch if written well.. but pani to sar se Nikal Gaya..

Dadi's character graph am not convinced too much.. but like the woman said, she wouldn't mind being devious to bring her loved ones on their knees... she is doing everything for ragini but she would only give it to ragini when she comes back to her Dadi... same goes for shekhar... I love u but ghutne teko n come to me..


I have no doubts on the fact that RagLak are highly flawed as individual and that they are emotionally weak. And when they get impulsive, they just dont think. Whatever they see as a solution, they will just work on it without thinking. Yes, that is them.

But what I didnt get was Ragini. Nothing matters to her other than Laksh. She was the one who doubted him first. She was the one who got SO worried with his injuries. She was the one who cannot stand Laksh in jail for one night. And even after that she was ready to support Laksh just because his intention is to save his parents? If she loves Laksh so much, shouldn't she worry and think that the step her husband has taken will actually make sure that he will return home with such injuries every day? If Laksh is her first and utmost priority, she should think that? Shouldn't she?
Or should we just accept the fact that to give him temporary peace, she gave up on her efforts to stop him. Her emotional instability again came in her way to stop Laksh?
Edited by .IamShonali. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lonelythots

One more thing I would like to add.. I think after so long, the show is at an interesting juncture but thei writers track record has been bad, they build up well but when the track has to take off, it slips... the only point where the tempo was maintained was the raglak marriage twist culminating in swasan marriage n ragini's exposure..

Apologies if u think i am spamming..


You are definitely not spamming. So dont worry.
Yes, you are right about that. The writers did maintain the suspense well during that period. I have heard that our old writer is back (who wrote those tracks). Hopefully the show gets revamped 😃 and gets it lost charm back
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -LumosMaxima-

I don't understand Swaragini creative department. What are they trying to prove?? That it is okay to murder and torture your family members to get the person you are obsessed with? It is okay to treat your parents & in-laws like crap to prove that you are superior? It is totally okay to sell one new born baby to satisfy your ego?? And all these deeds(crimes) are forgivable?? Just one adha-adhura apology and all the criminals are redeemed. Law-system is a joke in SR. Now I am sure SR CVs have some issues with Kolkata police. They don't leave any chance to insult them. There is a limit to everything. Why is it so impossible for the writers to add a bit of logic in the serial? If Dadi suddenly becomes positive after this and starts fighting for justice then I won't be surprised. This is ridiculous. I guess in future we will hear "Lakshya ne jo kiya apne ma-papa k liye kiya" stuff a lot. Though he is going to face a lot of difficulties yet I am sure his choice of selecting wrong path will be justified too.


Completely agree with you Meera!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

I know u get the theory shonali my point is that in case of Ragini, dadi n lakshay that theory is applied by them in extremes. Swasan use this theory like normal people, but these characters in swaragini have always been on the extremes.

Hey Akanksha, so sorry to butt in between your convo!
I mostly agree with you what you said before & now also! So won't talk about that!
What I want to say is Swara & Sanskaar also feels extreme emotions specially Sanskaar! I personally believe & noticed that Sanskaar Maheshwari never do or feel anything in half! He feels any emotions towards anyone, be it love or hate, in extremes! Bt the difference is Swara & Sanskaar are mature & responsible enough to know when to express their emotions & how!
And here RagLak is left far behind! And it's their drawbacks bcoz they never tried to control it, never learns anything from their mistakes & more importantly never try to mend their ways or their bad traits of characteristics!
I agree that Ragini & Laksh are flawed & weak individuals Bt what I don't understand & like is why don't they try to be a better person? Why they don't let go their bad habits or traits?

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