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Posted: 10 years ago
#11
I think it's not about ragini Now for the fans
Her character is gone many feel u cannot even redeem her

The reason I don't want lakshay to consummate his marriage with ragini is because I want to save the grace of his character now, I don't think I would respect a man who plays with a woman's dignity no matter what
Yes since ragini played with everyone's feelings, she deserves to taste her own medicine
So I completely support lakshay if he plays with her feelings but I won't be able to forgive him if he plays with her dignity
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Posted: 10 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: The.Lannister

Excellent post & I agree with everything you have said.

One point I will like to add from my side:


Ragini is not an innocent, naive girl. She is a woman who is very sexually aware (for lack of a better word!) & is very much interested in the physical aspect of their relationship. While we often joke about the word HAQ in the forum let us not forget how desperate this woman has been to get her HAQ from her husband & no she isnt talking about sweet, pure love alone or normal wifely rights.

Also check out the various times she has shown her over interest in the physical & sleazy:

She falsely accused Sanskaar of molesting her. Why? So she could gain sympathy & he wouldnt be able to bring out her truth once again. How much planning did that need? Nothing. She is threatened & she pulls this cheap trick. What sort of a woman does that?

She tried to prove that Swara was two timing the brothers & was characterless. She went so far as to book honeymoon tickets for Swara with her husband Laksh! If she wanted to prove Swara wasn't a good DIL there were so many other ways but once again she goes for the physical & sleazy aspect.

She actually conspires with a Tamashewali to spite the Maheshwaris! How many women do we know who go & talk to Tamashewalis? And no it doesnt end there. She & her beloved daadi danced with Kaveri too👏


Let us also not forget her very vivid ang laga de dream immediately after being slapped by her mother 16 times! She could actually feel desire/ lust after being slapped so much?? Its mind boggling.

And then while the Maalkin drama was on how can we forget how turned on she was when Laksh hugged her🤢 & then her frustration when he shoved her away which she later took out on the furniture in the living room


I have listed out everything above to just show that even if Laksh does consummate their marriage & then ditches her I am not wasting a single second blaming him or feeling sorry for her. She is no innocent who is being ruined by the bad boy. She has ruined enough lives. And like she once said to Swara...Swara chose to forgive her, great. But if Laksh chooses to punish her in any way he sees fit why should we blame him? Ragini's own philosophy is going to come & haunt her forever & ever. After all everything is fair in love & war. In her quest for revenge she has finally fallen even lower than the person who wronged her in the first place.


👏 Perfect reply.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#13
No one deserves to be wronged by another person.

As far as Ragini is concerned. She has psychological problem. She has been overpowered by her gandmother, who has almost dictated her life. Unlike Swara, Ragini never got to think for herself and talk her feelings which she mentions many a times, and she has curbed all her feelings inside her for so many years. When she was told that Laksh would be her husband she accepted him completely and loved him so much to go to the extent (the junoon) which she did (which was naturally wrong).

Inspite of Ragini's grave actions, It was only Swara who still understood her and forgave her (takes a big heart to do that and probably occurs on screen), but that was not enough. If everyone, especially if Laksh would have understood her and helped rather then doing what he did, this would have helped Ragini to be the good person she was.
Laksha is going to make the same mistake again, which may aggravate ragini even more.

(Again it is a fiction drama and that has to go on)

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Posted: 10 years ago
#14
SUPERB POST DEAR, COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: soniadutta

I too agree but I still want they didn't consumate as it will shown bad msg

Wats laksh doing is perfectly perfect bcos the girl like ragini totally deserved all this
He made everyone life hell and even not for single time get punished and never saw any guilty about her all wrong deeds
Bang on post.


thank u for commenting
and i seriously say i really dont want laksh to consummate his marriage with her as this will be an other reason for her to reenter his life and seriously want ragini out of laksh's life as he really deserve a better girl than her.
i dont think he will consummate his marriage too but lets see what cv's have planned.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: sam.

Though I agree that ragini is getting what she deserves ,but the idea of him going to the extent of consummating the marriage makes me just uncomfortable as a girl ! Let's see how the CV's present the story afterall its upto them to convince or not to convince us about lakshya's actions !


that is why i raised the question of ragya consummation before the truth revealation. isnt that cheating??
we should not always think from a girl's pov lets try to be fair and think the opposite way. when ragini could cheat him and it is all ok to everyone then why is now laksh wrong??

i say i really dont want laksh to take this step but if at all they show i will not really like it but im not going to feel sorry for ragini in any way..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Agree with whatever you said.

Even I have been saying the same thing in reply to many posts. What you sow so shall you reap.- An age old proverb which everone seems to have conveniently forgotten.

Ragini has ruthlessly trod upon others for getting what she wants. Why cant others do the same to her?

Those who are horrified that Lakshya has stooped so low should understand that basic male psychology is totally different. They are looking at the situation from a female perspective.

It is perfectly possible for a man to physically use a woman without involving emotions in the bargain. For men s** is like any other physical need.

If Lakshya had been in love with someone else then it would not have been possible for him to cheat. But he is not. He has accepted Swasan relationship. So he is free emotionally.

Next comes the misusing Ragini part. See Ragini has done everything to convince everyone that she is neither feminine nor has any female qualities.

In fact she has no humanity. So why Lakshya should feel obliged to worry about humanity, principles etc when dealing with her. Afterall poison is needed to destroy poison and fire fights fire.

Also, look at the things from lakshya's persepctive. Why do you think he drinks? Because of heavy guilt. He was the one who took the decision to marry Ragini. He made the half baked plan to kidnap and murder Ragini. You think it is easy for a son to see his mother and sister being treated like servants? His mother's face blackened? His love being humiliated? He might not want Swara any more but he still has affection and feelings for her.

Ragini with her own cruelty has driven him over the edge and forced him to become a monster.


thanks for such an awesome comment dear.
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i agree people are looking just from a girl's perspective that is why i tried to point this out.
im happy that there are many people who support my point.
i agree that for some men s** is just a physical need but for others it has to be out of love. if consummating his relation was so easy for laksh he would have done it when ragini tried to compel him or made advances towards him but still he didnot do it as he loved swara at that point of time and couldnot cheat ragini. but now that situations are completely opposite. he hates ragini to core filled with vengeance and revenge. and he has accepted swara's love for sanskaar that is why he could do that to get his revenge from her.

if laksh really accepted ragini isnt that a bad message that u get everything even if u adopt wrong ways. this breakdown of ragini has to make her learn that u will reap what u sow. she sowed bad she will get that back.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: The.Lannister

Excellent post & I agree with everything you have said.

One point I will like to add from my side:


Ragini is not an innocent, naive girl. She is a woman who is very sexually aware (for lack of a better word!) & is very much interested in the physical aspect of their relationship. While we often joke about the word HAQ in the forum let us not forget how desperate this woman has been to get her HAQ from her husband & no she isnt talking about sweet, pure love alone or normal wifely rights.

Also check out the various times she has shown her over interest in the physical & sleazy:

She falsely accused Sanskaar of molesting her. Why? So she could gain sympathy & he wouldnt be able to bring out her truth once again. How much planning did that need? Nothing. She is threatened & she pulls this cheap trick. What sort of a woman does that?

She tried to prove that Swara was two timing the brothers & was characterless. She went so far as to book honeymoon tickets for Swara with her husband Laksh! If she wanted to prove Swara wasn't a good DIL there were so many other ways but once again she goes for the physical & sleazy aspect.

She actually conspires with a Tamashewali to spite the Maheshwaris! How many women do we know who go & talk to Tamashewalis? And no it doesnt end there. She & her beloved daadi danced with Kaveri too👏


Let us also not forget her very vivid ang laga de dream immediately after being slapped by her mother 16 times! She could actually feel desire/ lust after being slapped so much?? Its mind boggling.

And then while the Maalkin drama was on how can we forget how turned on she was when Laksh hugged her🤢 & then her frustration when he shoved her away which she later took out on the furniture in the living room


I have listed out everything above to just show that even if Laksh does consummate their marriage & then ditches her I am not wasting a single second blaming him or feeling sorry for her. She is no innocent who is being ruined by the bad boy. She has ruined enough lives. And like she once said to Swara...Swara chose to forgive her, great. But if Laksh chooses to punish her in any way he sees fit why should we blame him? Ragini's own philosophy is going to come & haunt her forever & ever. After all everything is fair in love & war. In her quest for revenge she has finally fallen even lower than the person who wronged her in the first place.


thanks for the lovely comment dear. and substantiating my words with much more points.
i agree ragini was always interested in physical intimacy of their relation as she felt that as a safety and security to her relation. she wanted to consummate her relation with laksh so that he will not be able to break their relation when she was cheating him with the lies against biggest pain of his life. wasn't that wrong?? if they have consummated and the truth was out then wasnt that cheating? wasnt that using that person?? wasnt that using the weapon of physical intimacy to get him and to get what they wanted??
then when laksh is trying to use that same concept to win her trust and love just to break it all again is said wrong?? i agree i may sound different but arent we trying to make it more sympathetic for ragini just because of this issue and trying to forgive her deeds .


PS: i really dont want laksh to consummate his relation and i think it wont happen too. but here i just want to put another side of coin infront of all to say that even ragini did all this but is conveniently forgiven by all..
Edited by rithika2015 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#19
Hi ,
I agree to all points you have told.. But, as a girl I don' know why I don't want her to be consummated & cheated. Then, it makes no difference b/w laksh & ragini. Laksh is way better than her. Punishing is not just using & cheating. It can be just cheating too.

She has done damage to many- swara, laksh, sanskar, maheswarian's. But, the one who suffered most is swara. Laksh, still I will blame him for his own decision's at times.but, I do really feel pity on him. Maheswarian, I don't really pity them- their double standards at times(yowards swara) has paid. Sanskar, even if I am a sanky fan, I will agree he had his own role in manipulating her, so I feel he is getting what he had given to ragini- an unacheivable love. The only one who is sane & pure to punish her in my words is swara.
I agree to the point ragini has to be punished. But, i don't stand by the consummating punishment . In my opinion , he still own's no point to do it. He can simply throw off her, that is enough for her to be punished from his side.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: sree2015

Hi ,
I agree to all points you have told.. But, as a girl I don' know why I don't want her to be consummated & cheated. Then, it makes no difference b/w laksh & ragini. Laksh is way better than her. Punishing is not just using & cheating. It can be just cheating too.

She has done damage to many- swara, laksh, sanskar, maheswarian's. But, the one who suffered most is swara. Laksh, still I will blame him for his own decision's at times.but, I do really feel pity on him. Maheswarian, I don't really pity them- their double standards at times(yowards swara) has paid. Sanskar, even if I am a sanky fan, I will agree he had his own role in manipulating her, so I feel he is getting what he had given to ragini- an unacheivable love. The only one who is sane & pure to punish her in my words is swara.
I agree to the point ragini has to be punished. But, i don't stand by the consummating punishment . In my opinion , he still own's no point to do it. He can simply throw off her, that is enough for her to be punished from his side.




even as a girl i feel very irritated with the feeling that laksh is gonna consummate with her and i really dont want that to happen. that really makes no difference between him and her.
but as a viewer i say i dont feel that ragini deserves any sympathy for what laksh is doing.

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