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Posted: 9 years ago

#361

Well one thing is good that sambha is portrayed right I feel so bad for Lakshmana married to that drunktard sambha

And I felt bad that vrishketu was shown younger than parikishit I mean ...

Yudhisthir didn't made vrishketu king that doesn't mean you take the liberty of showing him younger than parikishit ...

And moreover comedy is that every pandavas even draupadi are shown with grey hair but

Krishna ji is perfectly young even after 36 yrs of kurukshetra

If I am not wrong Dwarka drowned after 36 yrs of mahabharat war

why they are showing 18 yrs ...

But at least happy that showed Vrishketu :)))))))

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Justitia

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Posted: 9 years ago

#362

Honestly don't know how to describe today's epi...

Filled with distortions, yes.

Balram & Krishna together killing off all the Yadavas - totally unforgiveable.

What's worse, Krishna being the first one to pick up the club 🤬

Btw, were those blades of grass magical or something? Grass transforms into club the moment each of the Yadavas pick one blade of grass each, and then after the fighting, the clubs turn back into blades of grass...😕

Btw, Mausala Parva is still not complete yet. And, would you believe it, this is actually a show about Karna! 😆

The final conversation between Balram & Krishna is called a "good distortion" - considering the divine connection between Shesha & Narayan. But, Krishna "transforming" Balram into Shesha...granted, Balram is Sheshavatar, and was transferred in the womb from Devaki to Rohini, but wasn't Balram ACTUALLY born into this world?

Yes, the divine connection was portrayed and all. But, something about that scene...maybe it's just me I guess...

The final scene - completely shocked me in a good way - believe it or not, I'm actually praising something about the show!!!😆😆

Distortion or not, Krishna in yog nidra position and Arjun meeting him. Basically, Nara meeting Narayan one last time before the final journey...and this is in a show about Karna!!

I was astounded with the final scene...Like I said, good distortion. If you want to go strictly by the epic, you will obviously have lots of complaints about the distortions.

But, when divine souls connect with one another...I was like 😲😲😲 in the final scene!

So, I really don't know how to describe today's episode.

Precap - Looks like they're taking the hunter route, and Krishna is completely prepared for it. But, besides that, who knows how they'll actually end the show tomorrow...

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Sanskruthi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#363

WT🤬

why is the show still called SPK??🤔

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amritat

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Posted: 9 years ago

#364

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
Nonie. Vrishaketu doesn't exist in Vyasa's Epic. No son of Karna was mentioned as alive after the war.Krishna never brought back to life anyone except Parikshit. Arjun nourishing Vrishaketu,his death at Aswametha war all this is not there in the Epic. It was told in Jaimini Bharat.
BORI also never accepted this Jaimini Bharat version. So there is no question of Vrishaketu becoming Yuvaraj as his existence itself is a myth.

Actually Vrishtaketu is mentioned in KMG. This is from Bhishma Parva, Section VII:

On a costly car with his standard bearing the device of a bull, and guiding the very van (of his division), the ruler of the Magadhas marched against the foe. 2 That large force of the Easterners looking like the fleecy clouds of autumn 3 was (besides) protected by the chief of the Angas (Karna's son Vrishaketu) and Kripa endued with great energy. Stationing himself in the van of his division with his beautiful standard of silver bearing the device of the boar, the famous Jayadratha looked highly resplendent.

I dont know wat is mentioned in BORI's Critical Edition, but if you could verify once, then I'll be grateful. 😊

Nothing is mentioned about Vrishtaketu after war, which could mean that even if he existed, he had died in the war.

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Justitia

@Justitia

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Posted: 9 years ago

#365

Originally posted by: -Fleurdelice-
WT🤬
why is the show still called SPK??🤔

That is the main problem with today's episode.

If you watch today's episode from the perspective of Karna's life, which this show is - you'll be left scratching your head.

But, if you watch it like,"Let me see how they portray the ___ Parva" (which is how I'm watching the episodes these days), today's episode will exasperate you and astound you in equal measure.

But, considering how this show paid so much attention to the Pandav incognito exile (for example of a non-Karna track - I basically kept track of the WUs since I didn't watch the show in those days), not the first time a non-Karna track has been focused upon so much...is it?

Using that logic, even Gita gyaan and Krishna Vishwaroop darshan shouldn't have been showed either. If so, Krishna wouldn't have asked Karna if he minded Arjun being given the Gita gyaan🤪

But that is the main problem with showing adaptations of Mahabharat from a singular character's perspective. In the story of the Mahabharat itself, all characters and their actions are so completely intertwined with one another...that showing it from one character's perspective is bound to mess things up no matter what.

Of course, Karna's story should've come to an end after Day 17...and then flashforward to the afterlife. But then, Vrishaketu would've never turned up...

Of course, there are distortions, and loads of it...be it Karna tracks or non-Karna tracks

So. Very. Complicated.

So, you just thank your stars that tomorrow is the final episode and we will never get to see this muddled mess of a show after tomorrow's episode. Ever again.

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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 9 years ago

#366

Originally posted by: lexy_rix

So, you just thank your stars that tomorrow is the final episode and we will never get to see this muddled mess of a show after tomorrow's episode. Ever again.

Until SidT's next big MB related project:

Some possible titles that I imagine would spur from his creative mind

Agni Janmi Kanya Draupadi, ek istree ka apamaan aur pratishodh

Purushottam Pandavas

ChandraVanshi Ka KuruVansh - Sarvanash

Mahabharata Dobara

Untim Pasa - Mahabharata Ki Kahani

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ltelidevara

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Posted: 9 years ago

#367

Originally posted by: amritat

Actually Vrishtaketu is mentioned in KMG. This is from Bhishma Parva, Section VII:

On a costly car with his standard bearing the device of a bull, and guiding the very van (of his division), the ruler of the Magadhas marched against the foe. 2 That large force of the Easterners looking like the fleecy clouds of autumn 3 was (besides) protected by the chief of the Angas (Karna's son Vrishaketu) and Kripa endued with great energy. Stationing himself in the van of his division with his beautiful standard of silver bearing the device of the boar, the famous Jayadratha looked highly resplendent.

I dont know wat is mentioned in BORI's Critical Edition, but if you could verify once, then I'll be grateful. 😊

Nothing is mentioned about Vrishtaketu after war, which could mean that even if he existed, he had died in the war.

BORI did not mention Vrishaketu here. These are the poems.

1 Syandanena Maharhena ketuna Vrishabhena cha

Prakarshanniva senagram magadhasya nrupau yayau

2 Tadangapatina Guptam Kripena cha mahatmanah

Saradabhra Chaya Prakhyam Prachyanamabhavad balam.

3 Anika pramukhe tishtan varahena mahayasah

Susubhe ketumukhyena rajatena jayathrathah.

I don't know why KMG mentioned Vrishaketu here. BORI gave Angapatina guptam protected by the ruler of Anga. The translation seems odd. The ruler of Anga can never be Karna's son.

As per BORI Vrishaketu never existed. Even Karna's other sons joined the war from eleventh day only.

Sorry I can not copy paste. But these are the three poems that you referred from KMG.The second poem first word you need to check.

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amritat

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Posted: 9 years ago

#368

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
BORI did not mention Vrishaketu here. These are the poems.
1 Syandanena Maharhena ketuna Vrishabhena cha
Prakarshanniva senagram magadhasya nrupau yayau

2 Tadangapatina Guptam Kripena cha mahatmanah
Saradabhra Chaya Prakhyam Prachyanamabhavad balam.

3 Anika pramukhe tishtan varahena mahayasah
Susubhe ketumukhyena rajatena jayathrathah.

I don't know why KMG mentioned Vrishaketu here. BORI gave Angapatina guptam protected by the ruler of Anga. The translation seems odd. The ruler of Anga can never be Karna's son.

As per BORI Vrishaketu never existed. Even Karna's other sons joined the war from eleventh day only.

Sorry I can not copy paste. But these are the three poems that you referred from KMG.The second poem first word you need to check.

Thanks for the Sanskrit shloka...So Vrishabhena becomes Vrishaketu!!

Angapati is Lord/Ruler of Anga.

Angapati-na...this 'na' is confusing me.

Bhena means 'Lord of the stars' or 'sun or moon'

Ketu means 'falling star' or 'comet'.

Did KMG translate Vrishabhena as Vrishaketu bcoz of similar meaning?

Sorry...my knowledge in Sanskrit is limited...😭

Edited by amritat - 9 years ago

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ltelidevara

@ltelidevara

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Posted: 9 years ago

#369

Originally posted by: amritat

Thanks for the Sanskrit shloka...So Vrishabhena becomes Vrishaketu!!

Angapati is Lord/Ruler of Anga.
Angapati-na...this 'na' is confusing me.

Bhena means 'Lord of the stars' or 'sun or moon'
Ketu means 'falling star' or 'comet'.

Did KMG translate Vrishabhena as Vrishaketu bcoz of similar meaning?

Sorry...my knowledge in Sanskrit is limited...😭

Angapatina means by the ruler of Anga Trutiya vibhakti which means by or with is used where Angapati is the word which becomes Angapatina to give the meaning" by Angapati. "You can not separate na . It is the whole sabda in tritiya vibhakti.

Vrishabhena means again Tritiya is used With the bull. Vrishabha means bull. Ketuna means with the standard . Standard means that symbol they have on the flag So it becomes with the standard of the bull. Tritiya vibhakti means by or with.

So with the standard bearing the sign or symbol of a bull.the Magadha king marched. He is called Vrishabhaketu. Means one who has this bull sign on his standard.

Like for example Arjun is Kapiketu,one who has monkey on his standard.

So you can't separate Angapatina like you did. There is no sandhi. It is a complete word with vibhakti ending.

You can not separate Vrishabhena like you did. It is a complete word with Tritiya vibhakti ending.

In MBH so much importance is given to standards. I mean the flag with the sign or symbol.

Hence Vrishaketu never comes into the picture. BORI is crystal clear.

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amritat

@amritat

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Posted: 9 years ago

#370

Originally posted by: ltelidevara
Angapatina means by the ruler of Anga Trutiya vibhakti which means by or with is used where Angapati is the word which becomes Angapatina to give the meaning" by Angapati. "You can not separate na . It is the whole sabda in tritiya vibhakti.
Vrishabhena means again Tritiya is used With the bull. Vrishabha means bull. Ketuna means with the standard . Standard means that symbol they have on the flag So it becomes with the standard of the bull. Tritiya vibhakti means by or with.

So with the standard bearing the sign or symbol of a bull.the Magadha king marched. He is called Vrishabhaketu. Means one who has this bull sign on his standard.
Like for example Arjun is Kapiketu,one who has monkey on his standard.

So you can't separate Angapatina like you did. There is no sandhi. It is a complete word with vibhakti ending.
You can not separate Vrishabhena like you did. It is a complete word with Tritiya vibhakti ending.

In MBH so much importance is given to standards. I mean the flag with the sign or symbol.

Hence Vrishaketu never comes into the picture. BORI is crystal clear.

Ok...thanks. 😊

So it's clear. Vrishaketu either didnt exist...or even if he did, he had died in the war...n was not important enough to be mentioned...which is y we dont see his name mentioned anywhere after war in Vyas.

Atleast people will not say...that the Pandavas didnt give him throne deliberately...which is a very common question on Quora.

And there seems to be a notion...that Jaimini's Mahabharat is the 'most authentic' version...

And supposedly it is 'pro-Kaurava'. I wonder if the chapters are lost...n only Ashwamedha Parva is available, how come people know it is pro-Kaurava.