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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: amritat
Well...well...Jamy...😆
Ok...before commenting on the OS...I'd say three things.

Firstly...you should have added another disclaimer...'Drauholics...STAY AWAY for your own mental peace'...🤣

Secondly...if I had written this OS...instead of naming this 'Blasphemous'...I would have named it...'Defiling Draupadi in a new way'...😆

Thirdly...I have a habit of analyzing how people around see my favourite character...Though my assumptions are always right, I was always confused about your perception of Draupadi. But in the past few days, I was getting a feeling on how you actually see Draupadi(despite the YuDi OS)...n this OS confirmed my beliefs...😆

Now coming to the OS...firstly...well-written.😊
You are one of the best writers in this forum...n u have proved it again with your flawless writing style...Though you excel in the poetic way of writing...personally I like this prose-like style more.
The words...the style...everything is awesome.👍🏼

I agree with your friends here...I am glad that you being a guy understand female emotions n write on them so well...Being inclined to feminism I am glad that u like n feel so much (which most guys dont do) for all the female characters of the epic...except Draupadi ofcourse.

Bhanumathi is harsh...yet strong n determined. I like that.

And in a way...I am grateful to you that u wrote this OS. It opened my eyes n mind about various things. And the questions that you raised against Draupadi made me think...In other words...I have got a new dimension to my ideals...thanks to this OS.
So I thank you for that.😊

I am pretty sure that this OS will gain a lot of appreciation n support from the fellow forum members...given the content.

However one question...I did not understand y Bhanumathi smiled in the end. Maybe a few more sarcastic sentences would have made the ending even better...but nonetheless...great writing.😊

Keep writing...You are indeed a great writer...😊

Edit- There is one paragraph about which I am very confused...😭
But I will ask you in details in PM...maybe...

Amrita, thanks a lot for the appreciation.😊 I can imagine how reading this OS must have been.😆 And I know you mean each word you wrote and you did not write only to praise me. Thanks a lot.😛
It is certainly wrong that I don't like Draupadi. I LIKE Draupadi, but in my own ways. But I don't write often about her because she has many good advocates. I am needed more for the "nobodys" of epic. And why should I write supporting Drau when I write from Bhaanu's POV? A story always needs a little dramatisation. Only that I did here. Besides, Bhaanu would not have known Draupadi personally. I see no chances of that. Everything she knew about Draupadi was only through others. What else can we expect from Duryodhana's widow who supposedly lived a life suppressing her emotions and feelings? I am surprised that you cannot think such simple facts. This is all about how Bhaanu felt and still all that matter is only Drau.😈 I did not even include Dury's mention of Drau's laughter in maya sabha where Bhaanu was not present, only because Bhaanu would not have thought Drau actually did it but her husband lied, acc to me. I only included things what Bhaanu would have felt as true. I am sorry but I don't think any reasonable woman can ever respect Draupadi for the reasons Bhaanu told. They all may agree with that she suffered more than anyone.
It is right that I don't feel anything for Draupadi. Not only her, I feel nothing for any character of the epic including Karna or Kunti. I am pretty much like my Bhaanumathi - careless of suffering.😆 And I have no intention to disclose why!😉 Once you have told me that many women don't understand Draupadi. But do you clearly understand Gandhaari? If yes, you would not have called her coward. Your feminist seems to close her eyes to other women in the epic if they are anywhere superior to Draupadi.😈
Bhaanu smiled in the end because she was no Drauholic.😉 People condemn K-D but they cannot conceive that Karna was utterly silent in DS. Karna's despicable behaviour in DS and K-D comes in the same package. No one can pick only what he likes. Either both or none!👍🏼
Which paragraph confused you? That "I don't know" scream of Bhaanu? I have been convinced that Draupadi was not in periods during DS. Not because IB wrote, but just an old memory coming to surface. About dragging, I am still not sure. May be, may not be. But there certainly was no dragging by hair.

Now, the three things. 😉
AFAIK, it is actually not allowed in IF to post things like "some fan group stay away, don't read" etc etc. Besides, if such a tag is added, people will surely read it. No one will avoid. It is simple psychology that trespassing is a tempting fascination for many.😆
Blasphemous means "grossly irreverent toward what is held to be sacred" and it denotes Bhaanu's behaviour here. I don't like long titles these days. One word will do for me.😆 I don't think this is defiling Draupadi in a new way just because it raises answeless questions. You appreciated me when I said Karna was not born with K-K, you will agree with me if I say he failed everywhere. Why can't you do the same if I question Draupadi? When criticism comes to her, it is "defiling"! That is contradictory. It is ridiculous that everyone wants all characters to circumambulate the feet of their favourites or the so called heroes and heroines, asking forgiveness for their never-done mistakes.
My perception of Draupadi is very clear from DK threads onward. You might have missed. I still stick to the flawless comment. And I will never say things Draupadi never did. Let me make it clear what I don't like in Draupadi, in case people still have not got it - she never sought justice from her husbands (so she lost the right for asking justice from others), she always spoke about her royal status everywhere (which psychologically means she had a great inferiority feeling deep inside and an obsession with its cause), and she chose to live with the same men who did the biggest injustice to her (that is compromising upon her originality and individuality). There is nothing admirable in these. And I will never get what makes many people think that Draupadi can never be questioned and their perception about her is flawless and complete!
Once again, thanks a lot for the appreciations.⭐️

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sania_58

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Posted: 9 years ago

#22

well written Jamy.

I like the way the portrayed Bhanumati.

She is harsh, proud, confident & a strong lady.

I dont have any dislike towards Draupadi.

Duryodhan, Karna, Shakuni all were responsible for her insult in the Dyut Sabha.

But why Pandavas remain slient?

Why Yudhisthir, the great Dharmaraj, skated his wife in the game of dice?

Draupadi's five husbands were equally responsible for her insult.

Draupadi's insult was not only a reason for war.

If Pandavas want to avenge Draupadi's insult, why they didnot took any step just after the incident?

Come on, they are Khastriyas, Kings.

Any man has the right to protect their wife.

But they waited, But when after the exile period Kauravas did not returned Indraprastha, Pandavas declared war for the insult of their wife.

Justice delayed, justice denied, I strongly believe this thought.

But Duryodhan was not the king, neither Bhanumati the Queen.

Loved the last part, when Bhanu smiled at the mention of Karna.

Fantastic writing.

Though I did not agree with each point.

But loved the OS.

Please add me in your PM list, I want to read more of your writing.

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amritat

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Posted: 9 years ago

#23

Man...this is one long comment. I thought of replying later...but now I have got some spare time.
Amrita, thanks a lot for the appreciation.😊 I can imagine how reading this OS must have been.😆 And I know you mean each word you wrote and you did not write only to praise me. Thanks a lot.😛

Well...u wont even let me crack a few jokes...😭

It is certainly wrong that I don't like Draupadi. I LIKE Draupadi, but in my own ways.

No no...you got me wrong here. When did I say you dont like Draupadi?

Besides...I am no one to tell you whom you should like or dislike...Bcoz at some level...we are all entitled to our opinion. I'll tell you something...in the past two or three...after so much of arguments n discussions on Mahabharat...wen I talk to Mahabharat fans now...at the very onset of the conversation I understand which character the person likes or dislikes...While I know you love Karna, Kunti n like Arjun n feel for characters like Hidimba n others...I never understood wat u actually felt for Draupadi.

It is kind of my habit to analyze other people's favouritism...I do this with everyone here.

After reading this OS...n especially this comment...now I know for sure.

I know you dont hate Draupadi...you just think she was a good-for-nothing crybaby. That's all.

I thinm it is alright...bcoz we all have our opinions...You have yours...n you are not answerable to anyone for how you feel about certain characters...It is your choice...😊

But I don't write often about her because she has many good advocates. I am needed more for the "nobodys" of epic. And why should I write supporting Drau when I write from Bhaanu's POV? A story always needs a little dramatisation. Only that I did here. Besides, Bhaanu would not have known Draupadi personally. I see no chances of that. Everything she knew about Draupadi was only through others. What else can we expect from Duryodhana's widow who supposedly lived a life suppressing her emotions and feelings? I am surprised that you cannot think such simple facts. This is all about how Bhaanu felt and still all that matter is only Drau.😈

Well being a writer...I know wat writing from perspective means...😆

Did I not tell you that a few days ago that you have to be partial to some extent to the protagonist in order to make your readers understand her perspective?

So...you did that well...n hence all the appreciations.

And you should write for whichever character you feel about...If Bhanumathi is the one...then go for it.

Then yeah...to me only Draupadi matters...blame it on my love for her...😆

I did not even include Dury's mention of Drau's laughter in maya sabha where Bhaanu was not present, only because Bhaanu would not have thought Drau actually did it but her husband lied, acc to me. I only included things what Bhaanu would have felt as true.

You also did not mention about how she was jealous of Draupadi 😆...during DS...please correct me if I am wrong. And well...wat Bhanumathi would have thought is your belief...We cant be sure right? Who knows maybe she would have believed him?

I am sorry but I don't think any reasonable woman can ever respect Draupadi for the reasons Bhaanu told. They all may agree with that she suffered more than anyone.

This is subjective...so I wont comment. People easily say...'Karna could have done this...Karna could have done that...' I too believed the same myself...but now I feel only Karna knows wat was his state of mind then. Same I feel for Draupadi...as well as for other characters...

And who suffered the most is also subjective...Some may feel that Kunti suffered more than Draupadi...

It is right that I don't feel anything for Draupadi. Not only her, I feel nothing for any character of the epic including Karna or Kunti. I am pretty much like my Bhaanumathi - careless of suffering.😆 And I have no intention to disclose why!😉

Then I must say...you are a very intelligent man.😆

I made a blunder at the beginning...wen I got so attached to characters like Draupadi n Kunti. 😭

I should not have done that...Look at me now...roaming around like a frustrated soul...defending my favourite at every crook n corner of social media...😆

You made the right choice by not feeling for any character...👍🏼

Once you have told me that many women don't understand Draupadi. But do you clearly understand Gandhaari? If yes, you would not have called her coward. Your feminist seems to close her eyes to other women in the epic if they are anywhere superior to Draupadi.😈

It's sad how you saw my coward comment but not how I called her great multiple times...😭

In fact I remember I was the only one calling Gandhari great at some point...

And do I not understand other female characters who are superior to Draupadi? 😆

This is where you are wrong again...

Firstly I dont understand this concept of superiority...

Can we really say who's superior to whom?

I dont agree that Gandhari n Kunti were superior to Draupadi...but at the same time I admit I wont be able to say that Draupadi was superior than others as well...Bcoz...like I said in my post of Sita n Draupadi...these characters had different lives...so we cant say who is superior.

Can we say who was superior...Karna or Arjun? I guess not...bcoz both led their lives to the best of their knowledge.

And so wat I called Gandhari a coward? I know very well of her nobility which is proven wen she refuses to bless her sons with victory...

I also call Draupadi outspoken...sharp-tongued...short-tempered...n even a frustrated soul at times...😆(the last one I say to myself)...does that mean I dont love her?

And about my feminist feelings...well you are wrong...There are only two female characters in the epic whom I dont like...one is Sharmistha...n the other is Satyavati..though I might change my opinion later. The rest...I like most other females...Be it Hidimba or Uloopi or Karna's wife...

So...there you go...my feminism stands...

Bhaanu smiled in the end because she was no Drauholic.😉 People condemn K-D but they cannot conceive that Karna was utterly silent in DS. Karna's despicable behaviour in DS and K-D comes in the same package. No one can pick only what he likes. Either both or none!👍🏼

Actually I have somehow accepted that the Vastraharan is an interpolation...

So obviously...everything that led to it is also interpolation...Did I not say it earlier?

Which paragraph confused you? That "I don't know" scream of Bhaanu?

This I will tell you later...coz I need to verify some things with facts...

I really need to buy the CE now...but it would be so heavy on my pockets...😭

I have been convinced that Draupadi was not in periods during DS. Not because IB wrote, but just an old memory coming to surface. About dragging, I am still not sure. May be, may not be. But there certainly was no dragging by hair.

Please let me know why you think so...I might need it for future purpose...😊

Now, the three things. 😉
AFAIK, it is actually not allowed in IF to post things like "some fan group stay away, don't read" etc etc. Besides, if such a tag is added, people will surely read it. No one will avoid. It is simple psychology that trespassing is a tempting fascination for many.😆

Yeah...I know this...😆

I was joking...just in case you didnt understand...
Blasphemous means "grossly irreverent toward what is held to be sacred" and it denotes Bhaanu's behaviour here. I don't like long titles these days. One word will do for me.😆 I don't think this is defiling Draupadi in a new way just because it raises answeless questions.

I would not say all are answerless...like I said...Thanks for this OS...

Bcoz it makes me think n changes the dimensions of my ideals...I would really love to search for the answers for these questions...which I had never thought about before...

And I would surely let you know my answers...but not here...

Bcoz this is an OS thread n I dont want it turn to anotber mini-Kurukshetra thread like my OS thread on K-D...😆

You appreciated me when I said Karna was not born with K-K, you will agree with me if I say he failed everywhere. Why can't you do the same if I question Draupadi? When criticism comes to her, it is "defiling"! That is contradictory. It is ridiculous that everyone wants all characters to circumambulate the feet of their favourites or the so called heroes and heroines, asking forgiveness for their never-done mistakes.

Yes...I too feel Karna was not born with Kavach n Kundal n in a way that takes away the Danveer tag from him. But honestly I see this Kavach-Kundal being an interpolation in a positive way.

I feel that the concept of Kavach n Kundal was invented to undermine his invincibility as a warrior.

Since as per Ved Vyad...Karna is more like an anti-hero...his indomitable prowess as a warrior needed to be undermined with some justification...n hence people said he had 'Kavach n Kundal' n hence he was undefeatable...Whereas the truth is...he was clearly AS GREAT a warrior even after giving up his Kavach n Kundal...

Now you know why I think Kavach n Kunda is an interpolation apart from ofcourse the fact that it is not possible to be born with a Kavach n Kundal?

And did I ever say that Karna failed everywhere?
Yes...in some things he may have whereas in others he came out as triumphant.
The fact that he had to be killed with deceit...isnt that proof enough of his ultimate victory as a warrior?
You seem to have many assumptions about my feminist views n my opinions on Karna...but I am afraid you are wrong in most cases...😭

I dont mind criticizing Draupadi...as I dont consider her as any flawless being. In fact it would be best if not a single OS here revolves around Draupadi as this is a Karna forum.
And you too try to find reasons on all accusations on Karna right? Be it his behaviour with Bhishma or his giving away of wife n kids to defeat Arjun...And some of your justifications are indeed logical.
Am I not allowed to see Draupadi in the same way? 😊

And you had once said how you want people to be remembered for their good deeds n not for their flaws n weaknesses...but here I see the opposite. But that is my opinion.

My perception of Draupadi is very clear from DK threads onward. You might have missed. I still stick to the flawless comment. And I will never say things Draupadi never did. Let me make it clear what I don't like in Draupadi, in case people still have not got it - she never sought justice from her husbands (so she lost the right for asking justice from others), she always spoke about her royal status everywhere (which psychologically means she had a great inferiority feeling deep inside and an obsession with its cause), and she chose to live with the same men who did the biggest injustice to her (that is compromising upon her originality and individuality). There is nothing admirable in these. And I will never get what makes many people think that Draupadi can never be questioned and their perception about her is flawless and complete!

Honestly...I still dont agree with your flawless comment...😆

I am not sure as to whether my perception of Draupadi is flawless n complete or not...but I can say I have some knowledge on her...

And perceptions are subjective.

Dont u feel too that your perception of Karna is correct? There are many who disagree with your perception of Karna...right?

This is wat we all do with our favourites...n well that is the beauty of the epic.

It is the same words...same characters n yet our perceptions are so different n we all think we are right...

And to be honest...I too have two regrets about Draupadi's characterizations in the epic.

One was...she was not a warrior princess...n the other is she never left her husbands after the war.

As much as I admire her dutiful nature...I agree with Riti...she should have divorced her husbands after war...😆

But I dont know y u think she never accused her husbands when clearly she blames Yudisthir for his greed at the end...Anyway...I guess that is a different thing.

About the other flaws you pointed out...I agree with you on that...till I find suitable reasons to know why she did wat she did.

I dont oppose criticism but mockery.
Once again, thanks a lot for the appreciations.⭐️

Lastly...You are a great writer.

The fact that I liked the writing despite 'Blasphemous' content n my disagreement with most points...proves that you are a great writer.

Bhanumathi's laughter n the descriptions of her various expressions are awesome...

Keep up the great work...😊

And this looonnnggg comment is bcoz of your long reply...🤣

Edited by amritat - 9 years ago

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Brahmaputra

@Brahmaputra

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Posted: 9 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: sania_58
well written Jamy.
I like the way the portrayed Bhanumati.
She is harsh, proud, confident & a strong lady.
I dont have any dislike towards Draupadi.
Duryodhan, Karna, Shakuni all were responsible for her insult in the Dyut Sabha.
But why Pandavas remain slient?
Why Yudhisthir, the great Dharmaraj, skated his wife in the game of dice?
Draupadi's five husbands were equally responsible for her insult.
Draupadi's insult was not only a reason for war.
If Pandavas want to avenge Draupadi's insult, why they didnot took any step just after the incident?
Come on, they are Khastriyas, Kings.
Any man has the right to protect their wife.
But they waited, But when after the exile period Kauravas did not returned Indraprastha, Pandavas declared war for the insult of their wife.
Justice delayed, justice denied, I strongly believe this thought.
But Duryodhan was not the king, neither Bhanumati the Queen.
Loved the last part, when Bhanu smiled at the mention of Karna.
Fantastic writing.
Though I did not agree with each point.
But loved the OS.
Please add me in your PM list, I want to read more of your writing.

Thanks a lot Sania. I am glad you liked my attempt.😊

From what I understood, Draupadi's insult was never a cause for the war. It is clearly said many times. In fact, Pandavas never cared what Draupadi went through. One thing I believe is that Draupadi never got justice from anyone, either from Pandavas or Kauravas. Duryodhana is many times mentioned as king. So Bhaanumathi certainly was the queen.

I will surely PM if I write any more. In fact, I have PMed you about my Karna OS. But you did not read. So I though you might not be interested. Besides, I had to remove it very soon.

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sania_58

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Posted: 9 years ago

#25

ohh sorry, I think somehow I skipped that PM.😭

I am very much interested in reading MB stories & characters from intellectual writers like you & many present here.

Its a nice treat.😊

I am Madhumita, U can call me Madhu.

write more.Though I know, IF is not much a suitable place.but still.

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Brahmaputra

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Posted: 9 years ago

#26

Amrita, I would not have typed that long reply if you have avoided calling this OS "a new way to defile Draupadi" as if I wrote it only to degrade her. Had I wanted that, there were easier options.😈 I wrote differently and you certainly failed to understand as your words clearly indicate. Nevertheless, forget that.
You again misunderstood me.😔 I actually meant that you really meant each word of appreciation you wrote and you did not write an appreciation to praise me just because my previous OSs were good. It has no other meaning. I am bad at jokes these days, especially when a Drauholic jokes.😆 Blame on the reception I got in DrauAT.😈
In your first comment, you wrote "Being inclined to feminism I am glad that u like n feel so much (which most guys dont do) for all the female characters of the epic...except Draupadi of course". That means you thought I did not like her. Anyhow I am glad that it is not so. I don't believe Draupadi was a good-for-nothing-crybaby. This OS has nothing to do with my perception of her. These are only thoughts on how Bhaanumathi would have reacted because its her POV.
AFAIR, HP women with Dusshala went to Draupadi before DS. Though it is said that the daughters-in-law of Dhrit felt jealous, no names are specified. Dhrit had 100 sons who all were married by then. Bhaanumathi's name nowhere appears in the epic. We have nothing to confirm whether she was Dury's wife. If she was real, then I have reasons for why she was what I depicted her to be. And in this OS, she was not present in HP during DS.
I am sorry if you think I have misunderstood your comment on Gandhaari. That was only because of the way you commented. I am helpless. It is too long to explain here why I made that remark, & also "superiority".
I know you know VH is an interpolation. But what about others?🤣
I also know all questions of Bhaanu are not answerless. I would definitely like to know answers you find. I can do that much less work.😆
I did not say that you said Karna failed. I said that if I would say that he failed, you would accept that, which is true to some extent I think. I have no assumptions on your views on Karna, but on feminism I have coz AFAIK that all "isms" only divide humans and "ism" people are generally dangerous or that is my experience.😆
I still say that it is not good to remember people for bad things. But that does not apply to the characters I write unles that is my autobiography. If all characters I write speak like me, that will be boring for me at least. It is like some researchers saying that Shakespeare was gay because he wrote sonnets like "Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day".
I have never felt that my perception on Karna is correct. It is just better than what most others say. A better logician can certainly disprove me. It is just that no such one is around here. If someone comes, I will certainly agree with him.⭐️
I didn't say Draupadi never criticised Yudhi. But she certainly did not do it when it was needed. I haven't read yet. It was Anu who told me that Drau criticised Yudhi when UPs were killed, AFAIR. But there was no chance for my poor Bhaanu to know this. Bhaanu's questions were only based on what I think she possibly have known.
My concept of flaws developed because I studied in a medical school. Otherwise, there was no scope for it. You probably won't understand it until you are a medical or genetics student or working associated with medical or palliative care institutions. So no worries.
Thanks again for the appreciation, Amrita.😃

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Brahmaputra

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Posted: 9 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: sania_58

ohh sorry, I think somehow I skipped that PM.😭
I am very much interested in reading MB stories & characters from intellectual writers like you & many present here.
Its a nice treat.😊
I am Madhumita, U can call me Madhu.
write more.Though I know, IF is not much a suitable place.but still.

It is okay,Madhu. I will definitely PM if I write more.😊

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amritat

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Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra
Amrita, I would not have typed that long reply if you have avoided calling this OS "a new way to defile Draupadi" as if I wrote it only to degrade her. Had I wanted that, there were easier options.😈 I wrote differently and you certainly failed to understand as your words clearly indicate. Nevertheless, forget that.
You again misunderstood me.😔 I actually meant that you really meant each word of appreciation you wrote and you did not write an appreciation to praise me just because my previous OSs were good. It has no other meaning. I am bad at jokes these days, especially when a Drauholic jokes.😆 Blame on the reception I got in DrauAT.😈
In your first comment, you wrote "Being inclined to feminism I am glad that u like n feel so much (which most guys dont do) for all the female characters of the epic...except Draupadi of course". That means you thought I did not like her. Anyhow I am glad that it is not so. I don't believe Draupadi was a good-for-nothing-crybaby. This OS has nothing to do with my perception of her. These are only thoughts on how Bhaanumathi would have reacted because its her POV.
AFAIR, HP women with Dusshala went to Draupadi before DS. Though it is said that the daughters-in-law of Dhrit felt jealous, no names are specified. Dhrit had 100 sons who all were married by then. Bhaanumathi's name nowhere appears in the epic. We have nothing to confirm whether she was Dury's wife. If she was real, then I have reasons for why she was what I depicted her to be. And in this OS, she was not present in HP during DS.
I am sorry if you think I have misunderstood your comment on Gandhaari. That was only because of the way you commented. I am helpless. It is too long to explain here why I made that remark, & also "superiority".
I know you know VH is an interpolation. But what about others?🤣
I also know all questions of Bhaanu are not answerless. I would definitely like to know answers you find. I can do that much less work.😆
I did not say that you said Karna failed. I said that if I would say that he failed, you would accept that, which is true to some extent I think. I have no assumptions on your views on Karna, but on feminism I have coz AFAIK that all "isms" only divide humans and "ism" people are generally dangerous or that is my experience.😆
I still say that it is not good to remember people for bad things. But that does not apply to the characters I write unles that is my autobiography. If all characters I write speak like me, that will be boring for me at least. It is like some researchers saying that Shakespeare was gay because he wrote sonnets like "Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day".
I have never felt that my perception on Karna is correct. It is just better than what most others say. A better logician can certainly disprove me. It is just that no such one is around here. If someone comes, I will certainly agree with him.⭐️
I didn't say Draupadi never criticised Yudhi. But she certainly did not do it when it was needed. I haven't read yet. It was Anu who told me that Drau criticised Yudhi when UPs were killed, AFAIR. But there was no chance for my poor Bhaanu to know this. Bhaanu's questions were only based on what I think she possibly have known.
My concept of flaws developed because I studied in a medical school. Otherwise, there was no scope for it. You probably won't understand it until you are a medical or genetics student or working associated with medical or palliative care institutions. So no worries.
Thanks again for the appreciation, Amrita.😃

Well...Jamy...I usually dont create a fuss in OS threads...I find it distasteful. But somehow in this one I couldnt stop myself. And I wrote wat I felt...with ofcourse some humour. 😆

Yes...you could have defiled Draupadi in other ways...but you could have shown Bhanumathi's strength in other ways as well instead of pitting her against Draupadi in this way...But then again...it is YOUR writing...n as a writer you can write whichever way u feel like...So I have no right to say anymore than this.

By the way...y do u say u got bad reception at Draupadi's AT? It was AT no. 14...u had joined.

I remember me n Krishnaa had welcomed you...but you didnt reply.

I thought you were angry with us...nonetheless...I can tell u, you were one of the most liked Karna fans amongst us then...bcoz of reasons I cant say here. So...I dont know why you say you got bad reception.

As for Bhanumathi...there is nothing to confirm she was there...but there is nothing to confirm her 'superiority' either. And yes...I dislike it wen people try to prove Draupadi is inferior to others...Why only Draupadi? Nowadays...I dislike it wen people try to prove Arjun is a better archer than Karna or wen people say Gandhari was greater than Kunti...Bcoz comparisons between such equals with different sufferings are unfair or so I feel.

As for Vastraharan...I think others will gradually stop talking about it the day people on the other side stop whining about Sutaputra comment...I hope u know wat I mean...😉 Like K-D...this also comes as a package...😉 And no...I would not take all your assumptions on Karna as correct...

Didnt you realize that already? 😆

Ya...I agree. 'Ism' people are dangaerous if they dont know the right definition of that 'Ism' well...

As for Bhanumathi's questions...I have some answers...though I do agree with one thing she said.

But I will give u answers later...I want to be absolutely sure by reading the text. But then again...my answers will be based on my understanding. You may disagree if you want.

As for writing...I agree with you. In fact...I have taken mental note of this.

I tend to get too unbiased in my writing which I think makes it very boring. And my characters think like me...like Karna's daughter. A little bit of partiality does make it spicy n makes the perspective more realistic. I'll try this partiality next time...😈

As for Draupadi's criticism of Yudisthir...I have my own reasons for believing wat she did was justified in her own ways...I will let you know in my answer to Bhanumathi's questions.

And no...I am no doctor. I am only an ordinary person with average understanding of psychology.

So anyone who appears to be harsh...sharp-tongued...short-tempered...like Draupadi, in my definition such a character is flawed.

Finally...I hope this exchange ends here. I think I am spoiling your thread with my long, long comments...so I would want to stop here. If you have to say anything more...you may reply in PMs.

A writer's thread should not be spoiled with such discussions...I would hate it if anyone discusses such things in my OS threads...so let's stop. 😊

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Brahmaputra

@Brahmaputra

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Posted: 9 years ago

#29

Amrita, I clearly meant no degradation. If you felt the opposite, that is prejudice.
I don't like writing same stuffs what others write.😆 In which way I should have shown Bhaanu's strength? Making her ask forgiveness to Drau?? Weeping over misfortunes like Drau??? Not even Dury did that. Bhaanu was Kshatriya. No chance for dukhiyari stuffs at all. I have firm reasons to think if Bhaanu was real, she certainly excelled every other woman of her generation. If you can't stand it, your problem. It is not any superior-inferior stuff. It was just her intrinsic quality that she was the most excellent, provided she was real. This OS also is primarily based on that alone. If we consider her to be only a fiction, then that excellent image is broken. Thats all. Also, any other wife of Dury is NOT going to make it up as well.
It is really good that you forgot what happened in Drau AT. Except for names, my memory is pretty sharp. I cannot forget even if I decide to.😆
Sutaputra & VH are not connected anywhere in the epic. What logic is that?😆 Sutaputra and Karna's participation come in same package. Either both or none.
I don't mind discussions in my OS threads as long as they are not offensive. And this exchange ends HERE.😆

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Sanskruthi

@Sanskruthi

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+ 7

Posted: 9 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra
Yes.! A shocking piece, I know.🤣 Let the glass-house people do their work anytime. It is easy to recognise. Just look who is more wounded and hurt.😆 You take as much as time you want. No worries.👍🏼

Yeah a shocking piece!😆
Unresed I guess at page 2... Forgot the number😳

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