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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't know why this idea comes that Kunti was just a victim and she didn't do anything on her own? keeping my personal dislike aside she was one of very few women of MB to lead her life in own terms.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat

And though she had let Karna down...she was an awesome mother to the Pandavas.





So shacking up w/ Dhritarashtra/Vidura during the Pandava exile, and leaving w/ them after Dhritarashtra decided to go into exile was being an awesome mother to the Pandavas?

Remaining in the same kingdom w/ the king who allowed the attempted disrobing of her bahu was being an awesome mother? 🤢

I'd hate to see what a bad mother looks like!!!
Edited by .Vrish. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Agree Vrish. Sid T is an ardent Kunti lover. That is evident but one should like Kunti for the correct reasons. She was not this mamtamayee milk white woman by any angle. 😆



In a serial about Karna, it's anything but appropriate to portray Kunti positively!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.




So shacking up w/ Dhritarashtra/Vidura during the Pandava exile, and leaving w/ them after Dhritarashtra decided to go into exile was being an awesome mother to the Pandavas?

Remaining in the same kingdom w/ the king who allowed the attempted disrobing of her bahu was being an awesome mother? 🤢

I'd hate to see what a bad mother looks like!!!



I agree with the points u mentioned...
These incidents show kind of propriety issues with Kunti...
The reason y I think she was an awesome mother to the Pandavas is bcoz she made sure her five sons are safe n secure...She convinced people of their divinity...I was reading the parts before Swamvar, where there are hints that she led the five Pandavas to Kampilya after hearing of Draupadi n seeing her sons' expressions(please correct me if I am wrong)...The whole Panchal alliance gave Pandavas the courage to go back to Hastinapur(please correct me if I am wrong again)...She made sure not just Arjun but Yudisthir, who is the eldest is married into this alliance. That certainly secured his place.
And ofcourse going to Karna at the last moment is another big example...

Then there's a scene before the Pandavas go to exile(please correct me if I am wrong) where she tells Draupadi to take care of Sahadev...kind of hints that she loved her stepsons as well.
U may disagree but that's how I see it... 😊


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Patrarekha

I don't know why this idea comes that Kunti was just a victim and she didn't do anything on her own? keeping my personal dislike aside she was one of very few women of MB to lead her life in own terms.




I agree...in a way, Kunti was free from any kind of bondage bcoz of Pandu's abdication n later his death...
When Pandu was alive, she had followed him to exile n even gone through niyog to give him sons...
But after his death, she led things her way...She had no husband or mother-in-law to control her...On top of that she had five sons who obeyed her blindly...Vidur too supported her...
So, in a way she had no obligation...n hence controlled the situations in her own way, with the help of her obedient sons n a supportive Vidur.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat


Well I thought of being a silent member here but couldn't resist posting here after seeing certain posts.

Firstly, this is a thread on Kunti...so let's keep it like that. If people start comparing her with Draupadi, Gandhari n all...then it would lead to terrible debates...Let's keep this thread peaceful.

Secondly, I agree with Brishti...Kunti was a very very powerful woman n she get things done her way.
Unlike Draupadi or Gandhari, she was extremely shrewd n diplomatic.
There is no comparison between Draupadi n Kunti bcoz the latter was cunning n diplomatic while the other was intelligent n straightforward...Both were different personalities...

The reason y people glorify Draupadi is bcoz her husbands are the protagonists of the epic...If the story had revolved around Pandu then, Kunti would have been the heroine n would have been glorified...

And not only Draupadi n Kunti...but Satyavati too was a strong woman...In fact, Mahabharat provides us great examples of strong n powerful women...So, there's no need to draw comparisons.

As for screaming n shouting...well I guess both Kunti n Draupadi suffered a lot but in different ways...
One lost her husband while the other lost her children n honour...If Kunti had been staked by her husband, assaulted by her dewar, kidnapped by her nanad's husband n molested again by a pervert like Keechak, then maybe she too would have started cursing everyone around...So...let's not draw comparisons...

Nonetheless...I feel Kunti was a dynamic character...She made mistakes but showed the world how a woman can make things happen...Almost half of the things in the epic can be attributed to Kunti's intelligence...
So...good or bad, I like this woman...maybe a few things she did are really really unfair...but overall she was dynamic.

And though she had let Karna down...she was an awesome mother to the Pandavas.




Amrita, we did not mean to compare anyone. 1Rockstar1 just said that she agrees with me and mentioned Draupadi's name, so I said yes Draupadi is a phenomenal woman but I like Kunti more because.. and then wrote a line about Draupadi which was purely my opinion. You are free to disagree.. Anyways, its over! :D

But one thing..we cannot discuss any character without talking about the other characters. For example, how can you discuss Draupadi, without bringing in Arjun/Krishna/Yudhishthir/Kunti/Bhim etc.? Is it really possible?

Lastly, I disagree regarding why Draupadi is glorifies but I will stay out of this topic as you rightly pointed out this is Kunti DT, and let us stick to Kunti's character as far as possible if not in context we have to bring in another one. 😃

Nice to see you here!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: 1Rockstar1

ya i knw even she was a strong woman, i meant she wasn't the only woman in the epic who was strong, bt many people failed to notice that, coz of these reasons even i feel she was more stronger.. (without screaming and shouting and cursing and being crazy)



Yes...unfortunately people fail to notice her contribution in the epic because sympathy and tragedy effects people more than strength and determination actually do.. So sad that is.
Another reason is people's ignorance about the epic. See for eg if you talk to someone who just has a vague idea about the story, they will only say about the Vastraharan, Karna being Kunti's sona ctually, Krishna giving Arjun Geeta gya. the very famous incidents, although the lack knowledge about the deep analysis and thinking of these incidents. If you see well, Kunti is one character who has made alot of things happen 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.



In a serial about Karna, it's anything but appropriate to portray Kunti positively!



True... Being a Kunti admirer I must say this is crazy.. I am tired of this innocent mode of Kunti! That too in SPK.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat




I agree...in a way, Kunti was free from any kind of bondage bcoz of Pandu's abdication n later his death...
When Pandu was alive, she had followed him to exile n even gone through niyog to give him sons...
But after his death, she led things her way...She had no husband or mother-in-law to control her...On top of that she had five sons who obeyed her blindly...Vidur too supported her...
So, in a way she had no obligation...n hence controlled the situations in her own way, with the help of her obedient sons n a supportive Vidur.




Very few women have the strength and courage to take the responsibility of five sons, and making sure her eldest (among the Pandavas) gets the throne. She alone made that happen! (Yes ofcourse Krishna is there,but Kunti's master strategies do work) She made sure she earned her happiness. Not sympathy. That is what makes her stand out.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Brishti I agree...it takes a lot of strength to do wat Kunti did...which is y I believe in order to understand Kunti, one has to be in her place...She is one character who is judged easily n negatively...n yes, some of the things she did are really really unfair...but I guess she did those to keep herself n her sons safe...
I do feel bad for her at times...her conversation with Lord Krishna where she talks of her miseries is heart-wrenching... 😭
And it is true that half of the things in the epic happened because of her...But in a way, I feel she could do all this bcoz Pandu was dead...if he had been alive, then maybe we would have known a different Kunti...but nonetheless she made an impact...I wish the CVs showed this...

As for Draupadi...yes, she was very very very very very vocal about her problems but I guess it is easier to have dignity when in lesser troubles...When a woman gets assaulted again n again(n sometimes in front of her husbands)...being elegant n dignified becomes the least of her concerns...or so I feel. The best example of that is Gandhari...The woman who never spoke ill of anyone...n did not even bless her sons with victory, lost all control n self-restraint when her sons died...n started yelling n cursing...
And y is Draupadi glorified? I guess bcoz she is the wife of the 'heroes' n the assaulted one...
Like u said...people give a lot of importance to tragedy n tragic characters...n hence there is so much discussion on Draupadi...And ofcourse her polyandry...which most people still cant digest bcoz of her gender...
Anyway...let's focus on Kunti.

I just really wish they had shown the real Kunti...


Edited by amritat - 10 years ago

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