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Originally posted by: AnuMP

Guys

Sorry to inject seriousness. But when an underage girl is curious about sex and 'summons' a grown man, it is serious business. Yes, that does make the bio daddy a villain. In this day and age, it would be called statutory rape.

Originally posted by: KURT15

Awesome post Riti... SidT seems obsessed with his pet KaKu!! 😡

Thanks Geetha... ya his obsession

Originally posted by: amritat

Riti...even we assume that there was no forceful sex, does it make the father completely faultless?
Does he have no responsibility that we pour our full hatred solely on Kunti...overlooking the father's role in it?

As for the other children...I think Kunti was older then...n yes, by today's standards evven niyog should be a crime...

Originally posted by: riti4u

<font face="Georgia">Ofcourse not amrita, as i said if it was consentual then fault lies with both father and mother equally . As far as pouring hatred on Kunti is concerned, there are many other reasons for that.. not only just abandoning child like this... even if you think in modern context.. Father left child care on mother( There i would say he was wrong but then as per texts he was not mortal being obligated with responsibility like normal fathers).. so he gave responsibility to mother.. atleast didnt abandon him alone.. Similarly Kunti could have given responsibility to someone else.. or giving him to orphanage or even better had that priyamvada take care of him..and even given to some parents... rather than just leaving him alone.. unattended to.. Still she was young and can be excused for her decision.. but when she was quite mature.. then also she didnt take any decision for benefit of her first born.. it was her selfish needs that came first..</font>

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Originally posted by: amritat

I know wat u mean...Well, I personally dont believe in the divine angle any more...
So, let's assume that the father was a mortal...If I am not wrong, then Suryadev(the father) himself had told Kunti to leave him..(please correct me if I am wrong)So it's not true that he left Karna in his mother's care(please correct me if I am wrong again)...this whole divine paternity was probably added to make the father free from all responsibilities(since he was a God...noone would question him).
And I agree that Kunti did not fulfil her responsibilities of a mother to Karna but it's not completely true that she didnt care about him at all...Bcoz she cried like anything when she gave up Karna, n even appointed spies to find out where Karna had ended up...And practically it's not possible that a little child survived in a basket moving in a huge river for miles...I think the whole abandoning was done in a controlled process so that noone knows who the mother is. How is it that out of all the families in Aryavarta, only a childless couple found him? Could be coincidence...could be something else...So though I know wat is in the text, it is possible that the actual meaning is something else, very similar to Lord Krishna covering up Draupadi in clothes...I guess, it's more poetic than literal...This is an idea, I have got from Indrajit Bhattacharya's articles...However u may have a different opinion... 😊

And when Karna was getting crowned Kunti was happy...and even after Karna's death, she told the Pandavas about Karna, when it was not required...She could have easily kept quiet but she didnt...She risked her relationship with her children to reveal Karna's truth...that cannot be the act of a very selfish human..She certainly had guit all her life or so I feel...

I think the biggest crime of Kunti's was to go to Karna right before the war...THAT was a very selfish move if we see the scenario from Karna's perspective...Some say, she went to Karna bcoz she wanted all her sons to be alive...n out of helplessness she did wat she couldnt do all her life...but I feel, she went for a dual purpose...She went with an intention to either bring Karna on this side or make sure his morale is weakened...Either one would happen for sure...
And though I like Kunti, it's for this and Draupadi's division that I cannot completely love her...

In short...Kunti was a shrewd woman...And along with her own, she had also kept her five sons' reputation in mind...and yes, for that Karna had to suffer...So watever she did...it was due to partial helplessness, partial cowardice, partial selfishness n also partially for the welfare of her five sons...So, I wouldnt blame her completely for every plight of Karna..coz at some point, she had reasons n not all of those reasons were selfish...
But this is completely my opinion... 😊 I know...ur opinion of hers wont rchange but thought of trying...😆

Originally posted by: KURT15

Frankly, though I admire Kunti very much, I do not believe that she ever cared for Karna as a son or even as someone who deserved her consideration. She herself thinks of him as wicked souled before she goes to meet him. That shows, she never considered him as a son, but went to him as the mother of his enemies with the intention of helping her sons.