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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hmmm... Agree
I really feel bad for Su . When a girl she leave her house to enter new. She needs support of her husband and his family ( lol learn this thing from EK show)
Agree she have nobody by her side except bhavana and Lata. I don't like Pankaj as well. He I know love Su but he took a wrong decision for her.
And ya for Pratima and Sharad Yuvi is their priority.
If they love Su than they won't hide the truth from her.
Pratima: She did unjust with Suhani.She only considered her son's happiness not Suhani
Sharad: He care for his guru the most. Earlier he used to like Soumya only. And used to try every way to make them couple. And used to call Suhani chai Ki Patti.
I am not blaming them. It's human psychology we love our family more. We would think for them first.
But Still feel bad for Suhani not because of Shatima or someone else but because she don't have her husband by her side 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: wayback

Hmmm... Agree
I really feel bad for Su . When a girl she leave her house to enter new. She needs support of her husband and his family ( lol learn this thing from EK show)
Agree she have nobody by her side except bhavana and Lata. I don't like Pankaj as well. He I know love Su but he took a wrong decision for her.
And ya for Pratima and Sharad Yuvi is their priority.
If they love Su than they won't hide the truth from her.
Pratima: She did unjust with Suhani.She only considered her son's happiness not Suhani
Sharad: He care for his guru the most. Earlier he used to like Soumya only. And used to try every way to make them couple. And used to call Suhani chai Ki Patti.
I am not blaming them. It's human psychology we love our family more. We would think for them first.
But Still feel bad for Suhani not because of Shatima or someone else but because she don't have her husband by her side 😕



I'm not a big fan of either Pankaj or Lata; both of them have very old-fashioned views on marriage and relationships. 🥱 Bhavna is Suhani's support system.

Yeah, that's what I said in this post too, it's human for ShaTima to care more about Yuvraj, but what I don't like is how they pretend to care about her on the same level. In their love for Yuvraj, they are making Suhani a sacrificial lamb. They aren't thinking about what's good for her.

@bold- yeah, she is truly alone. 😭


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Apu, first of all, great post. Somehow you always manage to beautifully place all our concerns in such an elegant manner. Bravo. 👏👏
Up until yesterday I was rooting for Pratima, I was trying to justify her (lack of) actions. But yesterday I was shocked. How could she actually do something like this?! I thought she was inexperienced and lacked courage, but yesterday's episode showed how selfish she was. In a way yes, what she thought was moral but why would she ruin someone's else's life like that? You know what's more infuriating? I think that the makers believe every word that Pratima has said or they would have made her regret her decision.

Why is it that marriage is considered the solution to everything? Why is it that Pratima thinks that putting two people in a LOVELESS marriage would fix everyone's mentality, this is not how it would work in real life at all. If Pratima couldn't instill those values in her children, then how does she think some outsider will? Suhani is a human being just like her, and she's a young women. Doesn't Pratima understand that Suhani as a person also has desires, also wants something from life? Why should her life mission be to conform a bunch of ignorant and frankly evil people?

All those months spent in the shithole called the Birla Mansion destroyed Suhani's spirit. Pratima, I don't think once asked Suhani, how she feels after those insults, has she? Yesterday Suhani was crying her eyes out, and what did Pratima come to say once again? She did not regret her decision. W*F? This girl has been shattered because of your decision and all you have to say is you don't regret anything. If Pratima really cared about Suhani, she would have been sorry, she would have listened to Suhani, asked her she wants, what she wants to do. Can she not see Suhani's pain, the trauma she is experiencing?

Coming to Sharad, he also has been disappointing for the past few episodes. Suhani is not merely angry regarding a trivial matter, but she is devastated. She needs a friend, and Sharad could have been that friend, but he's too busy being teasing Yuvraj and being his sidekick. Also what I don't understand is that all these people live in the same house, and so much is happening, but no one is communicating a single thing to one another.

Coming to ShaTima, I no longer have any hopes for them as well. I guess living in the BM has made them immune to everyone else's feelings excluding Yuvraj. These was once a time that I considered ShaTima Suhani's family, but unfortunately they're not. Suhani will forgive them, but irl, a women with some self-respect for herself would not.

As you mentioned, Suhani does not have a real family. She has always selflessly given to everybody, but no one has done the same for her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sparkling-star

Apu, first of all, great post. Somehow you always manage to beautifully place all our concerns in such an elegant manner. Bravo. 👏👏

Up until yesterday I was rooting for Pratima, I was trying to justify her (lack of) actions. But yesterday I was shocked. How could she actually do something like this?! I thought she was inexperienced and lacked courage, but yesterday's episode showed how selfish she was. In a way yes, what she thought was moral but why would she ruin someone's else's life like that? You know what's more infuriating? I think that the makers believe every word that Pratima has said or they would have made her regret her decision.

Why is it that marriage is considered the solution to everything? Why is it that Pratima thinks that putting two people in a LOVELESS marriage would fix everyone's mentality, this is not how it would work in real life at all. If Pratima couldn't instill those values in her children, then how does she think some outsider will? Suhani is a human being just like her, and she's a young women. Doesn't Pratima understand that Suhani as a person also has desires, also wants something from life? Why should her life mission be to conform a bunch of ignorant and frankly evil people?

All those months spent in the shithole called the Birla Mansion destroyed Suhani's spirit. Pratima, I don't think once asked Suhani, how she feels after those insults, has she? Yesterday Suhani was crying her eyes out, and what did Pratima come to say once again? She did not regret her decision. W*F? This girl has been shattered because of your decision and all you have to say is you don't regret anything. If Pratima really cared about Suhani, she would have been sorry, she would have listened to Suhani, asked her she wants, what she wants to do. Can she not see Suhani's pain, the trauma she is experiencing?

Coming to Sharad, he also has been disappointing for the past few episodes. Suhani is not merely angry regarding a trivial matter, but she is devastated. She needs a friend, and Sharad could have been that friend, but he's too busy being teasing Yuvraj and being his sidekick. Also what I don't understand is that all these people live in the same house, and so much is happening, but no one is communicating a single thing to one another.

Coming to ShaTima, I no longer have any hopes for them as well. I guess living in the BM has made them immune to everyone else's feelings excluding Yuvraj. These was once a time that I considered ShaTima Suhani's family, but unfortunately they're not. Suhani will forgive them, but irl, a women with some self-respect for herself would not.

As you mentioned, Suhani does not have a real family. She has always selflessly given to everybody, but no one has done the same for her.



Thanks so much, Sharmin. 😳 You've done a great job yourself with outlining why we have a problem with ShaTima's approach.⭐️

Pratima's idea was very immature, selfish and destroyed Suhani's life, along with Yuvraj's life. Suhani actually fell in love with the caricature of Yuvraj all these people presented to her, and not who he really is. Can you imagine that- falling for someone who doesn't exist?
There is no problem with her thinking Suhani was the right girl for Yuvraj, but she SHOULD NOT have forced that idea of hers on Yuvraj and Suhani- a complete stranger to her. Also, yes, the CVs believe each and every word of hers and don't think she's wrong, 'cause ultimately, 'elders know what is best for their children'. Her approach will be justified by YuvAni falling for each other and it won't even be considered a mistake. 😕 What a joke. 😡

I too hate how marriage is portrayed as some one-stop solution, when it's a decision people in the best of their mental health should take. @SuTima's scene- The most disappointing thing was how Prats' lacked any empathy for Suhani's plight and was going on with her sermon, without concentrating on Suhani's pain. it was all about how Pratima believes 'Suhani is right for her son'. 😔 As you said, Suhani was sobbing into her arms, and not once did she say, "Suhani, I'm sorry for dragging you into this hellhole and letting you be ignorant of all that was being plotted against you."😲

Sharad's main character brief has always been being Yuvraj's sidekick, and that's what he will always be. Unfortunately, we have to accept, that though ShaTima might love Suhani, she is a means to an end for them- make Yuvraj happy and ensure he understands what is important in life. That's how they think of Suhani, first and foremost, as Yuvraj's salvation. They don't think of her as an independent human being first. 😭

@bold- The bitter truth. 😭😭 I really hope we see at least ONE character who likes Suhani for who she is, and not because of what she can DO for them. Just one person. It's heart-breaking to see her being used like this.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I always wanted to appreciate your English Apurva. But today I will.
You have a fantastic approach over your English. The word you use are amazing. Like purgatory lol this word is funny but you have used it amazingly. I am in 10 standard and have this word like Soliloquy and purgatory in my Syllabus but never thought of using them in such an amazing manner.
You manage to convey whatever you want in a nice manner. That's why your post are treat to read 👏 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: wayback

I always wanted to appreciate your English Apurva. But today I will.
You have a fantastic approach over your English. The word you use are amazing. Like purgatory lol this word is funny but you have used it amazingly. I am in 10 standard and have this word like Soliloquy and purgatory in my Syllabus but never thought of using them in such an amazing manner.
You manage to convey whatever you want in a nice manner. That's why your post are treat to read 👏 👏



Thanks so much, Ashley, 😃😉

Clarity of expression is important to me, hence my username, hehe. 😆 @bold- Such an encouraging comment. Thanks Ash. 🤗 YuvAni release my creative juices. 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I've mentioned this in one of the other posts and I say it again - Pratima is an escapist.

1) She mistakenly got him married to Suhani(if not then why would she let Yuvraj go to suhani's to break the marriage?) - She literally FORCED suhani on Yuvraj and vice-versa all the time! So when they fall for eachother, she can be rid of her guilt!

2) She cannot take on dadi directly - for her own reasons. She cannot do anything about RagMen. So what does she do? she chooses the one more conducive for her purposes - Suhani.

3) She does not want to face the consequences of her actions - be it in the way Yuvraj was raised or be it about this marriage - she din't think of Suhani one bit in all this.

In what way is she better than Dadi in all this if she bulldozed over Yuvraj's freedom to chose for her own selfish reasons?

Sharad is not as bad as Pratima, though. Also, Suhani KNOWS Sharad cares more for Yuvraj.She has no delusions about it. Which is why she wasn't as heart-broken at Sharad as at Pratima!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: drummedup

I've mentioned this in one of the other posts and I say it again - Pratima is an escapist.


1) She mistakenly got him married to Suhani(if not then why would she let Yuvraj go to suhani's to break the marriage?) - She literally FORCED suhani on Yuvraj and vice-versa all the time! So when they fall for eachother, she can be rid of her guilt!

2) She cannot take on dadi directly - for her own reasons. She cannot do anything about RagMen. So what does she do? she chooses the one more conducive for her purposes - Suhani.

3) She does not want to face the consequences of her actions - be it in the way Yuvraj was raised or be it about this marriage - she din't think of Suhani one bit in all this.

In what way is she better than Dadi in all this if she bulldozed over Yuvraj's freedom to chose for her own selfish reasons?

Sharad is not as bad as Pratima, though. Also, Suhani KNOWS Sharad cares more for Yuvraj.She has no delusions about it. Which is why she wasn't as heart-broken at Sharad as at Pratima!


Yeah, DU! 👍🏼

You diagnosed it correctly- Pratima is a big time escapist. Her strategy when confronted with conflict is to bury her head under the sand, pretend it's not happening or use someone else as a shield. I don't blame her for this strategy because she has suffered a lot in her life, but I don't like her forcing it on Suhani too.

Pratima expected and wanted Suhani to be the superhero who would save the Birlas from themselves, but in doing that, she showed disregard for Suhani's person and her own wishes. She forced this responsibility on Suhani without her consent. That's the bad thing sh edid.

I have no problems with ShaTima caring more about Yuvraj, in fact, I think it's natural. However, they should stop giving Suhani the idea that they care about her as much as about him and also make it clear that they have also used her for their own agenda.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post apurva👍🏼
I think we discussed this topic in one of your post ShaTima are too selfish. They know how good is suhaani for yuvraj they even know how is yuvraj still they forced yuvaani in this loveless marriage. pratima didn't even bother to think about suhaani's future in BH. After so many years pratima didn't get that respect from dadi as a bahu how did she even thought that dadi will accept suhaani. Poor suhaani always thinks about others happiness but no person thinks about her sowmya, pankaj, pratima everybody back stabbed her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sudhi03

Great post apurva👍🏼

I think we discussed this topic in one of your post ShaTima are too selfish. They know how good is suhaani for yuvraj they even know how is yuvraj still they forced yuvaani in this loveless marriage. pratima didn't even bother to think about suhaani's future in BH. After so many years pratima didn't get that respect from dadi as a bahu how did she even thought that dadi will accept suhaani. Poor suhaani always thinks about others happiness but no person thinks about her sowmya, pankaj, pratima everybody back stabbed her.



@bold- 😭😭😭.

Pratima only thought about her son and not Suhani. Even now, she is not thinking about how poor Suhani will handle Dadi and the truth. Sharad is all about 'Guru, Guru'. 🥱

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