How are views and fan points calculated for celebs?-pg 4/29 Modnote 40

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ArnieBoyBarun

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Posted: 11 years ago

#111

Originally posted by: saalu1

Its not only that, the viewpoints of all the TV celebrities have come dowmn to 50% of the topmost one which is totally illogical and makes no sense.. the top 4 always had view points in the range 525 - 600 since last one year. how come suddenly the viewpoints of all others have come down so drastically except for the topmost one.

Thats why I think IF should restrict the views per member just like the comments as there is less chance manuipulation using a tool or a program by some people

exactly. It is even restricted the points to 500 as maximum for the number of active fans, how big is the number of fans, it is restricted to 500 same as view points at 600, but how to achieve 600 is the question, why other people are this much behind from the top one. We are viewing constantly, still it is just 50%, all the other numbers remain the same. I don't understand.

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DraculaGirl

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Posted: 11 years ago

#112

thank u so much TM for the top

i would also like to know how it worked..

coz i think we are not less in activity compare to other active forum

nd if fanpoints are given on the basis of fan's activity then we need explanation

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DiyaS

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Posted: 11 years ago

#113

@ TM ... thanks for this topic ... I would also like some answers to these questions.

Bearing in mind that Vijay sir did respond to some fans just a few days back, I hope he responds to this topic as well. India forums is a very large online portal now, and many PHs and channels troll the pages regularly for feedback.

The stakeholders of IF need to show transparency in its working, to make sure it retains some credibility and maintains its reputation as a responsible portal.

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DiyaS

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Posted: 11 years ago

#114

Originally posted by: crazyforsanaya
Thank-you TM, for making this LONG OVERDUE post on this VERY CONFUSING topic!

I would really like to find out all of the things already posted here, but more than that I would like to find out why is it so difficult to know all these things? Why are there so many I-F members who are confused? What is the purpose of being so secretive? Why is it that one group of fans know more than others? (I am sorely tempted to use the words 'insider information' here!!)

I also want to find out how it is decided and who it is that decides to delete comment pages from a celebrity. Was the fan's permission sought before deleting their comments? Whose right is it to do this? Does management reserve this right? On what basis?

In reference to MID's - why is there not a consistent, systematic removal of MID's. Why is one celebrity targetted over others? Sometimes, it is so obvious that there are MID's at play, yet, they continue to appear on a celebrity's comment page or fan page or on the pages of the actual show. Again, what is the basis of these decisions? Who is it that decides to target one celebrity over another? If it is a decision taken at the board level, what is the criteria for it? What is the criteria to target one celebrity but not another?

Please bear in mind that these are valid questions from me, an I-F member. A member, who is very disillusioned with the conduct of the I-F management, including some Moderators, who practice blatant conflict of interest!

Mangement needs to understand that this is not a fly by night operation anymore. You have an International membership. And if you want any credibility with your members, you need to practice an open, honest policy that has the integrity that an outfit of this caliber should require.

Just the fact that there are members who are questioning the operation of the I-F should give you the clue that all is not well in your forum.

Lastly, thank-you in advance if you do have the courtesy to respond to any of the queries. However, I will not hold my breath, judging from past performance!

Well said!!! 👏👏👏

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Guinea

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Posted: 11 years ago

#115

I was one of those who never per se questioned the ranking system in IF which I also understand must be to get a lot of clicks to the site apart from creating ardent fan groups for various celebrities. Always felt that the fan group which works the hardest that particular week ...their idol tops the ranking.

This ranking in the real world means nothing but is more of a feel good thing for fans in IF.

However for the past 6-7 weeks have seen a lot of hullabaloo on the view points , so thank you TM for making this post as this is a good platform to clear doubts abt the fan group no. as well , as i have always been confused abt that...all queries have already been asked by various members so I would not repeat the same.

I do hope vijay sir does reply on some of these queries as they are important and pertinent questions but not once do I think the system is biased or unfair. In all probability , it is a computer automated system which keeps collecting data on an automative daily basis , just like the chaska meter.

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vittoriA Giardano

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Posted: 11 years ago

#116

Ever since I joined the I-F, I have had some questions that I have asked, but not yet received any replies to. So if these questions get answered, I would be really interested in reading them.

Unfortunately, since I have joined the forum (first IPK and then Chhan Chhan,) I have seen some things that make me question the workings of I-F. Due to this, I have lost any respect for it, and do not trust it one bit.

However, were these questions to be answered, and were I-F to become more publicly accountable, and were I-F to practice a fair and just system, I would be more than happy to sing a different tune.

I would like to know the answers to the questions that have been posted here. I would also like to know how are the points in all categories calculated. The explanations given in the forum make no sense and/or are inconsistent with the actual facts (points being given.)

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vittoriA Giardano

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Posted: 11 years ago

#117

Originally posted by: crazyforsanaya
Thank-you TM, for making this LONG OVERDUE post on this VERY CONFUSING topic!

I would really like to find out all of the things already posted here, but more than that I would like to find out why is it so difficult to know all these things? Why are there so many I-F members who are confused? What is the purpose of being so secretive? Why is it that one group of fans know more than others? (I am sorely tempted to use the words 'insider information' here!!)

I also want to find out how it is decided and who it is that decides to delete comment pages from a celebrity. Was the fan's permission sought before deleting their comments? Whose right is it to do this? Does management reserve this right? On what basis?

In reference to MID's - why is there not a consistent, systematic removal of MID's. Why is one celebrity targetted over others? Sometimes, it is so obvious that there are MID's at play, yet, they continue to appear on a celebrity's comment page or fan page or on the pages of the actual show. Again, what is the basis of these decisions? Who is it that decides to target one celebrity over another? If it is a decision taken at the board level, what is the criteria for it? What is the criteria to target one celebrity but not another?

Please bear in mind that these are valid questions from me, an I-F member. A member, who is very disillusioned with the conduct of the I-F management, including some Moderators, who practice blatant conflict of interest!

Mangement needs to understand that this is not a fly by night operation anymore. You have an International membership. And if you want any credibility with your members, you need to practice an open, honest policy that has the integrity that an outfit of this caliber should require.

Just the fact that there are members who are questioning the operation of the I-F should give you the clue that all is not well in your forum.

Lastly, thank-you in advance if you do have the courtesy to respond to any of the queries. However, I will not hold my breath, judging from past performance!

You said it all!👏

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Jungli Billi

@MesmerizingSanz

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Posted: 11 years ago

#118

genuine queries

waiting a reply to it

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@Deus_Vult

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Posted: 11 years ago

#119

Originally posted by: crazyforsanaya
Thank-you TM, for making this LONG OVERDUE post on this VERY CONFUSING topic!

I would really like to find out all of the things already posted here, but more than that I would like to find out why is it so difficult to know all these things? Why are there so many I-F members who are confused? What is the purpose of being so secretive? Why is it that one group of fans know more than others? (I am sorely tempted to use the words 'insider information' here!!)

I also want to find out how it is decided and who it is that decides to delete comment pages from a celebrity. Was the fan's permission sought before deleting their comments? Whose right is it to do this? Does management reserve this right? On what basis?

In reference to MID's - why is there not a consistent, systematic removal of MID's. Why is one celebrity targetted over others? Sometimes, it is so obvious that there are MID's at play, yet, they continue to appear on a celebrity's comment page or fan page or on the pages of the actual show. Again, what is the basis of these decisions? Who is it that decides to target one celebrity over another? If it is a decision taken at the board level, what is the criteria for it? What is the criteria to target one celebrity but not another?

Please bear in mind that these are valid questions from me, an I-F member. A member, who is very disillusioned with the conduct of the I-F management, including some Moderators, who practice blatant conflict of interest!

Mangement needs to understand that this is not a fly by night operation anymore. You have an International membership. And if you want any credibility with your members, you need to practice an open, honest policy that has the integrity that an outfit of this caliber should require.

Just the fact that there are members who are questioning the operation of the I-F should give you the clue that all is not well in your forum.

Lastly, thank-you in advance if you do have the courtesy to respond to any of the queries. However, I will not hold my breath, judging from past performance!

word👏

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BillyJean.

@BillyJean.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#120

Thanks for this post. Much needed after all the fussing going on about view points.

I will not repeat the queries made here, all are valid & deserve an explanation from IF, a reputable entertainment portal.

I really believe that the fan group that is most active in views, comments,& fan activity on a weekly basis get to see their celebrity on top. I think everything is computer generated on a daily basis, there is no human intervention in these tabulations. However, I would like to know what activities contribute to fan points.

I do not have any doubts about the fairness on how these are calculated.

If a celebrity's comments are low, they are low. Let the fans work harder to improve that.

If view points have reduced, they have reduced because other groups are working harder.

There is no need to question the fairness and restrict number of views per user. That would not be fair to fans who are working hard to increase views of their celebrities.

Number of fans & pages have reduced, because of the MID clean up that was done. And I understand it is not easy task to eliminate all MIDs.

And buzz points is very valid and only celebrities who are in news for new shows & existing shows get buzz, so it gives all celebrities chance to gain points when they are indeed creating a BUZZ.

I believe it is ok to seek an understanding of how the system works, and as a user I want to know that, but its not ok to question the system every time my favorite celebrity slips in ranking.

I think the ranking system is fine & fair as it is...just a little explanation is all what we seek.

Edited by SanayaIsBest - 11 years ago