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@iTangled_25

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Posted: 14 years ago

#231

Originally posted by: SValeCalGal
Look, I'm sorry if I caused any offense, I dont want to be stating facts rudely, that wont help.. it gets things worse.. and I dont want to get very argumentative either. But we should speak up right, if we have an issue, we should be bringing it up, this is the place for it, right?

Let me ask this well intentioned member why the need to be apologetic for 'causing offense'?

It's small wonder that this place is a mess!

The above represents the HEIGHT of naivete! Do the youngsters here truly (not truely or even truley) believe that you can walk through life without causing offense at some point in time?! Often, just stating the FACTS is considered an act of rudeness .. the term 'bitter truth' did not fall out of the skies!!

Ditto for this concept of 'very argumentative'. Who has 'codified' the rules such that it is unambiguously known when a line has been crossed?! Can you imagine such being the case in a Court of Law?! One must argue until a WRONG has been corrected!!! Is that the situation here??!!! Well??!! Is it??!! Pussy-footing around an EGREGIOUS situation is the worst strategy and tactic one can employ - especially when there is NO resolution. That is PRECISELY what people like the Admin. team on IF count upon!!! Keep silent, keep them pacified and they will go away!!!

Almost without a doubt this has been elevated to the level of the Admin. What NONE of you are willing to accept is that there is a huge amount of sub rosa activity where they plan/plot how to absolve themselves of any blame. Why should they care??!! One moderator type claimed that IF was growing by leaps and bounds!! So what if there are a handful of 'disgruntled' members? That comes with the territory!! There are large coalitions of people here who are in a perpetual state of scratching each other's backs!! And for what??!! To carry on vastly vapid exchanges over TV programs that are sure to rot already half-baked brains!! I am asbolutely astounded that people salivate over these bizarre 'promotions' .. I can only wonder at the state of a mind that over the course of 2 years has10,000 posts!!!! At a site such as this!!!!

The one sure way to bring about change is to remove your patronage!!! Why do you persist in staying here?? Just for a lark .. try the 'Click Here' on the banner that appears on my post. It's a fledgling site (just as IF once was) with great potential. True, there is no classification of member (so, you will always be one of many), but neither is there immoderation or raising of warning levels! When the folks at IF notice an 'outflow', is when change will take place. Until then, learn to live with it and quit your bellyaching! No one up top cares!!! Nice words or rude words notwithstanding!!!

Give this other site a chance!! What do you have to lose??!!

Most often it so happens that the tone is highly misunderstood incase of written format. Hence I just meant to say that my intention was not meant to be rude.

You've well crossed that imaginary line, You have your ways of fighting for rights, and I have mine, let us not try to come down to changing each others point of view. I haven't forced my opinion on you.. You dont lay your opinions on me, and I like before wont lay mine on yours either. You go on about things the way you want to, and I do it my way, is there a problem with that? I'm entitled to my ways right? and so are you to yours. I dont find myself interfering in your opinions and again I dont see why you should intervene unless I've asked you to.

Why I do stay here is none of your concern, I'm here for reasons well known to me, I see no reason to confide it with you at all. I'm glad in being one of the many, I'm not begging for attention either! I rather be an ordinary member than being known for all the wrong reasons.

Believe me, your impoliteness around the place wont affect the DT anymore than the politeness does! I've have better experience being the later and so I shall stick to it!

Thank you very much for the advice, but it's my choice to gulp it down or not, I'll remember your words when required, otherwise I'm better off 😊

P.S: Excellent that you know all that English, but remember, there are very many 'youngsters' who are merely 16 and are a part of the DT, make it easier for them. 😳

Edited by -Steffz- - 14 years ago

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IlIlIl

@IlIlIl

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Posted: 14 years ago

#232

Go fix your own broken Admin. home before you decide to go behind the scenes in an attempt to 'scare' a person SEVERAL decades your senior (ask your buddy Tanubie)!!!! 😡

hey,
u dont hv to bring my name in evry post.😊
evrythin has a limit.
y r u thinkin nly frm ur side?DT members r also human.wen u call me prepubescent teen and stuff its wise words from a old woman and if some DT member calls u ,it bcoms bashing and stuff.i realy dont understand.can u pls explain ?
we hv our own reasons to b here.
and wen u see other people explaining things in a easy to handle y do u interfere.y do u want people to shout the same way u do?
wat was the wrong part i did?was it tht i told u not to shout and to explain ur complaints?
i evn pmed u an apology for jumping on u.
Y do u think tht teens are people without brains?wernt a teen loooong b4r? and isnt this god complex?as if u own this whole thread??

and abt english language .i nvr knew english was to show others how many hard words u knw.i thought it was for communication.and as far as i knw most of the DT members can communicate well .😊

and pls try to keep me out of ur talks. am sorry adii.i tried my best to stay calm .

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461075

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Posted: 14 years ago

#233

We're not promoting some other web site here, we're here to solve the issues.

Please! Let's not be naive .. people propose alternates as solutions to problems all the time!! I'm simply not being surreptitious about it! And the choice to do nothing is yours .. just as it may be that someone else feels free to check things out! To suggest that I should not be putting forth a perfectly viable solution is neither here nor there!

BTW, when you have the myriad problems vis-a-vis the IF Admin./Mod/DT issues resolved to your satisfaction, do give me a holler!! I prognosticate that it will be .. oh .. lemme see .. just a few microseconds after hell freezes over!! 😕

Edited by SValeCalGal - 14 years ago

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461075

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Posted: 14 years ago

#234

Most often it so happens that the tone is highly misunderstood incase of written format. Hence I just meant to say that my intention was not meant to be rude.

One person's 'rude' is another person's 'caviar' .. you have not yet experienced the relative nature of the Universe ..

You've well crossed that imaginary line,

Well dear, if it's 'imaginary', it has no meaning - right?! Again, do consider the fact that there are few ABSOLUTES when it comes to such things ..

You have your ways of fighting for rights, and I have mine, let us not try to come down to changing each others point of view.

Why not?! That is what this world is darling!! We each try to persuade people to see things differently!!! If this were NOT the case, parts of the planet would still believe that Heliocentrism is a falsehood, while other parts would blithely feel that the earth rests on a turtle's back!!

I haven't forced my opinion on you.. You dont lay your opinions on me, and I like before wont lay mine on yours either.

My distinct recollection is that most of my response was to the membership at large .. not YOU personally .. surely you will grant me that SOME people might actually see eye-to-eye with me!! So, your misconstrual of my post is a figment of YOUR imagination!

You go on about things the way you want to, and I do it my way, is there a problem with that? I'm entitled to my ways right?

You are entitled! Did I ask YOU personally to stop waging your 'war' in a manner of your choice??!! I am asking that you examine the EFFICACY of your approach!!

and so are you to yours. I dont find myself interfering in your opinions and again I dont see why you should intervene unless I've asked you to.

Uh .. let me ask you this .. if you knew that your neighbor battered his wife would you intervene of your own volition or wait for her to ask?! The situation is analogous here .. I am at liberty to respond to ANY post .. this is a public forum .. when you put up your thoughts what gives you the idea that they are inviolate??!! You do understand what a 'public' forum is all about - right?!

Why I do stay here is none of your concern, I'm here for reasons well known to me, I see no reason to confide it with you at all. I'm glad in being one of the many, I'm not begging for attention either! I rather be an ordinary member than being known for all the wrong reasons.

See above for definition of 'public' forum!!! I may be 'known' for the 'wrong' reasons .. but if there is even a single mind that can be pieced together from a state of gross entropy by virtue of my 'vituperation' I will consider that to be a success!! So, put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, m'dear!

Believe me, your impoliteness around the place wont affect the DT anymore than the politeness does! I've have better experience being the later and so I shall stick to it!

Right! When you have MY problem resolved with YOUR kind of politeness, do me the favor of letting me know!! I've tried it your way!! Even better, when you have the problems enumerated here resolved by using YOUR way, I promise to eat my best Sunday Hat (and those don't come cheap!) ..

Thank you very much for the advice, but it's my choice to gulp it down or not, I'll remember your words when required, otherwise I'm better off 😊

Snort! Good sense of humor!!

P.S: Excellent that you know all that English, but remember, there are very many 'youngsters' who are merely 16 and are a part of the DT, make it easier for them. 😳

That is THE MOST SHAMEFUL aspect of this!!! That 16 year olds are at this site in positions of oversight .. it behooves them to be hitting their school books .. which is where I feel YOU should be too!!

Ciao!!

Edited by SValeCalGal - 14 years ago

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wilddevil2010

@wilddevil2010

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Posted: 14 years ago

#235

Originally posted by: hetal
All the issues are regarding to one forum or one or two DTs. The topic is going in wrong direction. There are no answers to some of the issues that are raised. Why the rules are created, why they are such way? There are some questions that has to understood by their selves. There is no way to function the forum without rules and regulation. Why there are only few members who find everything wrong in DTs? The IP issue is not even an issue as it's been there since this site is created.
My question is, where do you get the information about who has access to IP and who doesn't have? Watch for the language that you use when you're attacking a Mod. There are many baseless issues that I'm noticing. It's a system and we have been following it successfully. Nothing is wrong with it. If you have issue, ask in best manner that you can ask. Being rude, and accusing will not work.

It's a strict warning to the members that rather accusing DTs, try to have healthy conversation and resolve the problem.

I would suggest u 2 watch ur tone. U r nothing but rude. DT r no gods & it is better 2 earn respect by actions rather than position.

These issues appear baseless 2 u coz neither ur personal info has been leaked nor u ve been stalked. Even if d complaints r abt one or 2 DT shouldn't u b taking action rather than telling members how 2 talk 2 DT.

Edited by wilddevil2010 - 14 years ago

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wilddevil2010

@wilddevil2010

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Posted: 14 years ago

#236

@ TM
If u want this topic 2 serve its purpose, then I suggest u 2 promote it. Unless d members r made aware how do u expect people 2 come fwd wid their probs.

I know u have already replied 2 an earlier post of mine regarding d same issue but I hope u would rethink abt it.

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461075

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Posted: 14 years ago

#237

hey,
u dont hv to bring my name in evry post.😊

Hey yourself!! Ah! But you see .. it's up to me to decide when I bring up your name!! It's MY post after all!! You see the logic?! 😉

evrythin has a limit.

Nope! Wrong!! In any event, I haven't reached mine!! 😉

y r u thinkin nly frm ur side?

Well .. yeeaaahhhh!! 😉

DT members r also human.wen u call me prepubescent teen and stuff its wise words from a old woman and if some DT member calls u ,it bcoms bashing and stuff.i realy dont understand.can u pls explain ?

Calling you a pre-pubescent teen was true .. based on my information that you were 12! I now know you to be a post-pubescent teen! That is a FACT! But 'pre-pubescent' teen implies that you are incapable of rational thought! That TOO is a FACT!! Most people are incapable of thinking rationally until they are in their early twenties (assuming of course, that they have had the benefit of a modern education). If you do not believe me, I will gladly provide you with a reference to Scientific American and you can read up on the research in this area!! Better yet, if I were you, I would spend my time in my Biology books so that by the time I get to be in my mid-twenties, I stand a chance of understanding that researcher's findings!! Now, if you said that (about being a prepubescent teen) about me, you would be, at a minimum, FACTUALLY INCORRECT!! Whether I would consider it to be 'bashing' .. well that would depend upon my mood that day!! 😉

we hv our own reasons to b here.
and wen u see other people explaining things in a easy to handle y do u interfere.y do u want people to shout the same way u do?

Nonono!! You've got it all wrong again kiddo!! When we 'shout' on-line we do so in UPPERCASE!! Only in UPPERCASE!!! I haven't done that!! So! Sorry!! Wrong again!! 😉

wat was the wrong part i did?was it tht i told u not to shout and to explain ur complaints?

And who exactly are you??!! Sorry, did I somehow overlook your VIP status??! 😲

i evn pmed u an apology for jumping on u.

And I did not accept your apology!! 😉

Y do u think tht teens are people without brains?

Most do have brains! The state of the organ at that age however, leaves a GREAT deal to be desired!! Sorry! 😊

wernt a teen loooong b4r?

I was!! And one who spent most of her time within the pages of a book!! 😉

and isnt this god complex?as if u own this whole thread??

Uh .. I'll let you in on a 'secret' .. shhhhhhhh .. I'm an ATHEIST!!! I have no need for gods .. neither do you, but you don't know it yet!! 😉 Now, why would you mind my 'owning' this thread?! I just have more to say .. gosh I sure hope I do .. given that I am almost 4 decades older than you!!! The FUN part is, I can write things at YOUR level just as easily as I can at MINE!! 😉

and abt english language .i nvr knew english was to show others how many hard words u knw.i thought it was for communication.and as far as i knw most of the DT members can communicate well .😊

Now kitten! Isn't that a silly thing to say??!! Of course all languages exist for us to COMMUNICATE!! But if there were no 'HARD' words, goodness, we would all be speaking in groans and grunts!! And poor lexicographers would be out of a JOB!!! At LEAST, think of them!! No dictionaries??!! GASP!! 😭

I mean .. I DID day I can write things at YOUR level as well as at MINE!! Is it my fault that most of you do not spend your time with your noses buried in your books .. learning 'HARD' words (you can speak volumes in a word or 2 rather than meandering all over hell's half-acre)!!

and pls try to keep me out of ur talks. am sorry adii.i tried my best to stay calm .

Let me tell you another 'secret' .. actually it's an OPEN secret .. did Adi-di 'Like' my posts?! Think about it??!! 😉

OK cutie?!! Go study for your mid-terms!! 😆

Edited by SValeCalGal - 14 years ago

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Sammy

@-ArohaAngel-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#238

Originally posted by: SValeCalGal
We're not promoting some other web site here, we're here to solve the issues.

Please! Let's not be naive .. people propose alternates as solutions to problems all the time!! I'm simply not being surreptitious about it! And the choice to do nothing is yours .. just as it may be that someone else feels free to check things out! To suggest that I should not be putting forth a perfectly viable solution is neither here nor there!

BTW, when you have the myriad problems vis-a-vis the IF Admin./Mod/DT issues resolved to your satisfaction, do give me a holler!! I prognosticate that it will be .. oh .. lemme see .. just a few microseconds after hell freezes over!! 😕

Oh i will give you a holler for sure. And again, this place was to lay down problems NOT insult the DT or any other members and ur doing nothing but that. Rudeness isn't a solution to your problems or anyone else's. And if your complaint is that DT members can't speak english as well as you, then i suggest you start talking in a way they understand you so they can solve your problems. I am a student, i am 17, not old but i know my English, I live in US and i am a straight A student with Advanced and honors classes, if i can be colloquial so other can understand me better, then i suggest you do the same.

You'r not proposing a solution, your promoting something other website, which, let me remind you, is against the rules of I-F. And if your excuse is that DT breaks the rules as well, again, give me a chance to remind you, 1. your not a part of the DT, 2. Your just stooping at their level.

And Please watch your tone.

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baz786

@baz786

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Posted: 14 years ago

#239

Hetal ji
Wat u said was correct but same applies for mods if the mods want respect they have to earn it
If they want members to follow rules n not b rude fine its ok
But all wer saying as members that DT shud follow rules as well
Otherwise its hypocrisy

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Sammy

@-ArohaAngel-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#240

Originally posted by: wilddevil2010
@ TM
If u want this topic 2 serve its purpose, then I suggest u 2 promote it. Unless d members r made aware how do u expect people 2 come fwd wid their probs.

I know u have already replied 2 an earlier post of mine regarding d same issue but I hope u would rethink abt it.

I can't go make up a new post and post this link in every single forum and sending out PM's is just too much, all i can do is have someone make this a sticky here.

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