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Jess. thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: aRohAAnGeL

Actually i also have a question for the DT....

How many of you (DT members) REALLY spend your time browsing through this forum and look for suggestions and comments? I'm sure most of you ignore it....especially members like DB who have such high value in the eyes of other DT members that they FAIL to demote him.



Well, i usually go through the suggestions/comments here. And i can think of a few other DT members.
But i am not sure if all DT members are aware of this section..
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: SValeCalGal

Guys , please stop mocking the DT ,

Uh .. Why??!!

the main purpose of this thread was COMPLAINT against a DT member and other existing issues ,

The operative words here are 'existing issues' .. some of us have "EXISTING ISSUES" that we are airing!! These issues were NEVER resolved and are persisting like the worst case of whooping cough!!!!

but now this has been a ground for bashing MOST of the DT members. This thread wasn't made to bash DT members ;

Sez who??!! Were you the originating author of this thread??!!

I really don't feel there was need to pass comments calling MOST of the DT members 'barely literate' or finding typos just to humiliate them.

Oh??! You don't feel this is appropriate and everyone should follow suit??! Uh .. who died and appointed YOU pope??!!

Please I request you to stop mocking members/DT , this thread is not meant for that ! I feel the main issue is being sidelined, please dont do that ! :)

I don't give a gnat's behind WHAT you feel .. there are certain aspects of the IF Admin. team's MISBEHAVIOR that are important!! These are what I am at perfect LIBERTY to 'voice'!!!! Got it??!!

You're another youngster who does not yet know how to connect the dots (for obvious physiological reasons) .. so rather than sailing forth with such aplomb, I suggest you keep your nose buried in your school books!!! 😡




You do have the liberty to voice your opinions about misbehavior demonstrated by IF Dev. Team member, but there are different ways to voice your opinion than yelling or attacking Ishan as he is just trying to make peace and calm things down so the issues can be discussed in a healthy manner.

I do agree with you on the point that there are some issues that haven't been taken care of and they all need to be given attention and solved asap, and these issues are being looked at by the GM's and admin as Ishan said. Hopefully something will be done soon.



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Posted: 14 years ago
All the issues are regarding to one forum or one or two DTs. The topic is going in wrong direction. There are no answers to some of the issues that are raised. Why the rules are created, why they are such way? There are some questions that has to understood by their selves. There is no way to function the forum without rules and regulation. Why there are only few members who find everything wrong in DTs? The IP issue is not even an issue as it's been there since this site is created.
My question is, where do you get the information about who has access to IP and who doesn't have? Watch for the language that you use when you're attacking a Mod. There are many baseless issues that I'm noticing. It's a system and we have been following it successfully. Nothing is wrong with it. If you have issue, ask in best manner that you can ask. Being rude, and accusing will not work.

It's a strict warning to the members that rather accusing DTs, try to have healthy conversation and resolve the problem.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hello,
I want to pass a warning, that if you can't change your behavior then you should stop your self from posting on the forum where you're insulting, and creating rough posts. if you have problem with the mods., I'm suggesting you that refrain yourself from posting now on. Either you are here to create a negative situation or either you're simply enjoying this activity. I see that your warning level is increases for breaking the rules. You can voice if something is wrong, but in right manner. Using worse language and using accusing words won't help you.
It's warning to you for last time.
Hetal
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Madam! I suggest that if you wish to throw your weight around, you do so in PUBLIC! Your threats are COMPLETELY meaningless!! Furthermore, the puerility of the language in your 'PM' is seriously dwarfed by the vapidity of its contents!! From a language standpoint, allow me to suggest that the 2 almost consecutive 'eithers' in a sentence is a case of GROSS redundancy (the correct form is 'either'/'or') .. and, if my purpose was to create a 'negative' situation, then it's a non sequitur of gargantuan proportions to suggest that I would be doing it to NOT enjoy myself!! Be that as it may! I will speak my mind about the Admin. team's continued misbehavior to my heart's content!!

Who are YOU to decide what the norms of 'rightness' and 'wrongness' are .. even if they pertain to the use of language (at a minimum, you SHOULD be able to discern my love for words)??!! Why don't you answer that for your own edification (that's assuming you are able to understand more than a smidgen of what I have said .. with or without the help of an Oxford Unabridged)!!!

Now, let's examine the consequences of the 'last warning' part - shall we? By all means .. go ahead and 'raise' my warning level (that's about all you people are capable of!). You should know by now, that keeping me off this blighted site is not within your powers (and I have forgotten more about how to manipulate IP addresses than your team will collectively EVER know). Go fix your own broken Admin. home before you decide to go behind the scenes in an attempt to 'scare' a person SEVERAL decades your senior (ask your buddy Tanubie)!!!! 😡

I would also advise you to not sanitize the situation by deleting my response! I have it saved and available for reuse .. should the occasion demand!!!

Oh yeah! One final thing! Tell Priya Nair to get her behind out here to answer/interact with me (or her replacement if she's not in these parts anymore)!! THOSE are the clowns I want held accountable .. I consider the the rest of you DT variety to be pesky gnats!! Go buzz off and carry out your tasks somewhere else!!!

P.S. For those of you who do not know: Priya Nair was/is the IF Admin. - the person all these Mods etc report to!! If she does not remember me from the Ramas encounter, this will help jog her memory!!! 😡
Edited by SValeCalGal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: hetal

All the issues are regarding to one forum or one or two DTs. The topic is going in wrong direction. There are no answers to some of the issues that are raised. Why the rules are created, why they are such way? There are some questions that has to understood by their selves. There is no way to function the forum without rules and regulation. Why there are only few members who find everything wrong in DTs? The IP issue is not even an issue as it's been there since this site is created.
My question is, where do you get the information about who has access to IP and who doesn't have? Watch for the language that you use when you're attacking a Mod. There are many baseless issues that I'm noticing. It's a system and we have been following it successfully. Nothing is wrong with it. If you have issue, ask in best manner that you can ask. Being rude, and accusing will not work.

It's a strict warning to the members that rather accusing DTs, try to have healthy conversation and resolve the problem.



Last year, a Moderator - Trina, used her powers of access to IP for posting a personal address of a member here on a public forum! She posted it on a Chat Club! Now are you still wondering where we get such information?! You still say that we shouldn't be insecure about the IP access now?


You can gladly check these out!

* Attn All CC Members! New Rule in effect! * CHK Pg. 86
I am disgusted and Apalled - LOCKED

I'm startled, you're a GM, and you are unaware about such a big issue? unless of course you were promoted after this issue!
Edited by -Steffz- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
In all honesty people forget DT member are also forum members, the slight difference is they are held accountable for their actions.

I know it must suck to hear "DT is working on fixing the mod issues", but there is a shortage of mods, so it's takes time. Only Admins get to deal with demotion and such things. And sometimes some of the complains are so silly that it take a long time just to understand which complains are valid and which aren't.

Regarding IP address people already replied how all mods don't have that right, only the higher ones do. Unless you are GM or Admin even that is limited to your forum. And I get a feeling members are referring to it as a creepy interest of mods. Mods aren't interested in checking random member's IP address. I can tell you it's not fun, just bunch of numbers. 🥱 It only gets looked into when there is a clear hint that it's an MID. And even then Mods only end up checking it when it becomes absolutely necessary, in more precise terms when a new member happens to join the forum writing the meanest post that violate all the I-F rules.

And not sure where the reading PM thing came from. No one reads pms. It's not allowed...😊 not even possible.

Regarding the friend issue, I wish the DT would do a better job at explaining this matter. FRIEND'S DON'T GET PROMOTED. They really don't. Because I swear if that was the case many members would have become mods by now.

Edited by Perfangel5655 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Perfangel5655

In all honesty people forget DT member are also forum members, the slight difference is they are held accountable for their actions. --> and is it wrong on our path to expect that the DT should be efficient? We ordinary members have to rely on the DT, and if the DT are not reliable (that the the complaint from all the 4 sides) where should we go?

I know it must suck to hear "DT is working on fixing the mod issues", but there is a shortage of mods, so it's takes time. ---> There has been a shortage for a long time now, we've heard that, but there has been enough time so a substitute could be brought in... Only Admins get to deal with demotion and such things. And sometimes some of the complains are so silly that it take a long time just to understand which complains are valid and which aren't. ----> But why is that we dont see the Admin around, I mean for eg: this thread, By the looks of it, the Admin hasn't even laid an eye here, and even if they have, why not give us a notice about it, post something here that tells us they've been looking upon the issue?

Regarding IP address people already replied how all mods don't have that right, only the higher ones do. Unless you are GM or Admin even that is limited to your forum. And I get a feeling members are referring to it as a creepy interest of mods. Mods aren't interested in checking random member's IP address. I can tell you it's not fun, just bunch of numbers. 🥱 It only gets looked into when there is a clear hint that it's an MID. And even then Mods only end up checking it when it becomes absolutely necessary, in more precise terms when a new member happens to join the forum writing the meanest post that violate all the I-F rules. ---> We are not saying that Mods are doing it for time pass, for God sake, there are better things to do, but what about the insecurity that is already created in everybody after the misuse of power, if it happened once, it could happen again? And the Admin should not wait for a second time... I think the Admin should take into regard certain insecurities and restrict the IP access to the GM and Admins.. Only Admins infact, ultimately it's they who decide demotions and banning right?

And not sure where the reading PM thing came from. No one reads pms. It's not allowed...😊 not even possible.

Regarding the friend issue, I wish the DT would do a better job at explaining this matter. FRIEND'S DON'T GET PROMOTED.
They really don't. Because I swear if that was the case many members would have become mods by now.



To that, here is the below, she is a Channel Mod, you're aware I'm sure.

Originally posted by: Aahaana


Promotion - its a wrong info, friends of mods are not made mods but i wont deny the fact it may have happened in the last past but not anymore. Any member who works hard and can prove herself/himself to be mature and responsible enough to handle a forum can be recommended.


I have no idea whats the issue between the members and DTs here but after reading through some of the posts here can understand some mods has misused their powers, instead of just complaining why not provide facts and possible evidence so it can be looked up by higher authority😛



Every friend who was recommended may not have become a part of the DT, but they were taken into consideration right? That is an advantage! But now that it's said it's not happening, then I'll take the word and wont pursue that matter.


Look, I'm sorry if I caused any offense, I dont want to be stating facts rudely, that wont help.. it gets things worse.. and I dont want to get very argumentative either. But we should speak up right, if we have an issue, we should be bringing it up, this is the place for it, right?


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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Jess.



Well, i usually go through the suggestions/comments here. And i can think of a few other DT members.
But i am not sure if all DT members are aware of this section..

they are not even aware of it? well that just bring the DT some shame.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Look, I'm sorry if I caused any offense, I dont want to be stating facts rudely, that wont help.. it gets things worse.. and I dont want to get very argumentative either. But we should speak up right, if we have an issue, we should be bringing it up, this is the place for it, right?

Let me ask this well intentioned member why the need to be apologetic for 'causing offense'?
It's small wonder that this place is a mess!
The above represents the HEIGHT of naivete! Do the youngsters here truly (not truely or even truley) believe that you can walk through life without causing offense at some point in time?! Often, just stating the FACTS is considered an act of rudeness .. the term 'bitter truth' did not fall out of the skies!!
Ditto for this concept of 'very argumentative'. Who has 'codified' the rules such that it is unambiguously known when a line has been crossed?! Can you imagine such being the case in a Court of Law?! One must argue until a WRONG has been corrected!!! Is that the situation here??!!! Well??!! Is it??!! Pussy-footing around an EGREGIOUS situation is the worst strategy and tactic one can employ - especially when there is NO resolution. That is PRECISELY what people like the Admin. team on IF count upon!!! Keep silent, keep them pacified and they will go away!!!
Almost without a doubt this has been elevated to the level of the Admin. What NONE of you are willing to accept is that there is a huge amount of sub rosa activity where they plan/plot how to absolve themselves of any blame. Why should they care??!! One moderator type claimed that IF was growing by leaps and bounds!! So what if there are a handful of 'disgruntled' members? That comes with the territory!! There are large coalitions of people here who are in a perpetual state of scratching each other's backs!! And for what??!! To carry on vastly vapid exchanges over TV programs that are sure to rot already half-baked brains!! I am asbolutely astounded that people salivate over these bizarre 'promotions' .. I can only wonder at the state of a mind that over the course of 2 years has10,000 posts!!!! At a site such as this!!!!
The one sure way to bring about change is to remove your patronage!!! Why do you persist in staying here?? Just for a lark .. try the 'Click Here' on the banner that appears on my post. It's a fledgling site (just as IF once was) with great potential. True, there is no classification of member (so, you will always be one of many), but neither is there immoderation or raising of warning levels! When the folks at IF notice an 'outflow', is when change will take place. Until then, learn to live with it and quit your bellyaching! No one up top cares!!! Nice words or rude words notwithstanding!!!
Give this other site a chance!! What do you have to lose??!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
We're not promoting some other web site here, we're here to solve the issues. This place isn't for promoting web sites or other forums even in a case of unrest on the forum.

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