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Posted: 8 years ago
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Those interested in symbols can read this
Circle of fire is a major thing in Dan Brown books like Da Vinci Code, and mainly Lost Symbol. It talks about the symbols of Pagan culture or group of people who worships supreme nature or feminine as the source of energy just like our Adiparasakthi. That's why I was surprised to see circle of fire yesterday in SKR. I never thought they will go for that concept.
Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code is quite shaking with respect to Christianity questioning its fundamental belief itself. Only a very liberal open minded Christian can read it and absorb it. There were lot of my Christian friends who didn't read it or didn't want to read it as it might end up questioning their belief. But it is a very good thriller. I had enjoyed it to the core.
Same is the case with SKR. To watch and appreciate it, we will have to shake some belief and prejudices of ours and look at it with an open mind. Check whether the questions raised are relevant to our time. Are they giving Ram rajya as we envisioned like that. Greatness of Ram-Siya never changes, only the perspective changes.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@jeena and to all those who telling Ram should explain to Sita, I am not sure whether CVs will show it. Because it has to be understood. Understood in all the private dialogues of the couple. Sita clearly says she doesn't have any anger with her husband, if he had remarried yes she would have been angry, sad but since he didn't do it she is fine. When she comes to Ayodhya and puts the sindoor in golden statue that itself shows her acceptance. The questions she asked was her swadharma, dharma of being a woman and she sacrificied herself for the cause or rather did tyaag. Ram followed the rajadharma of answering those questions by changing the laws of his land thus doing the vachanpalan towards his subject and his wife.

Krishna explains because he is teacher. If you get the learnings right you have to understand Ram. As Ram wont explain. Second you need to ask why you need explanation from CVs. Is it because you didn't understand it right or you want people who are bashing, criticizing to understand.
If you feel people wont understand it correct, note that people wont understand even if you give them dialogues. Because they don't want to understand. Krishna who is Narayan himself went as messenger to Kurusabha. Did they understand him. No. Krishna was sitting as Arjun's charioteer right in front of Kauravas. Did they understand with Narayan holding the reins of Arjun's battle they stand no chance. No. They went on doing what they wanted to do. Did Ayodhya recognize Mahalakshmi. No.
So ask yourself are you satisfied. Did you understand Ram and Sita. If yes that is it. You cannot convince anyone, unless they want to be convinced. That Maya will remain. Because if it is lifted the emotions will lose its value. It looks like the king and the queen played the drama. Yes it is Leela of Hari and Lakshmi, but the emotions were real. For that in front of society Maya is necessary.


Hmm Shruti di I understood what u want to say. 100% correct if we understood we don't need any explanation because it is already shown to us in many actions. And yes u said it right that people who don't want to understand will never understand because they have already decided what to do. It is very sad thing that even after many yugas society is not changed that much. Did Siya-Ram's sacrifice change the society ?? Not completely.

Thank u Di for replying. It is very helpful as sometimes things are crystal clear in front of u but u become unable to understand it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@jeena you cannot change everything, but if you change yourself, you can change something. That is what we have to know. Dharma and Adharma coexist. That is why Gita says
" Whenever adharma engulfs the world, to protect the right people and to destroy the evil and to re-establish dharma I will come"
So how will he come, for me it is through every human of Kaliyuga who moves towards an awareness, who wants to bring a change. Narayana manifests through him, her bringing about the required changes. If we can hear Sita's voice clearly and discuss about it, it is because society has reached this point where a woman's voice is heard.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Today's episode was good. I loved it. and it did give impetus to my final analysis also
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Posted: 8 years ago
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27/10/2016

What I loved about today's episode was Ram's decision to be in a room with Sita's memories. He has done all the duties. As a king he bought reforms, giving justice to all his praja both man and woman. Performed the last rite of his mother as a son. Gave his sons father's love and mentored them to be kings. He gave the reins of Ayodhya in the able hands of his sons. Now he is free. All his duties complete. He is a content man who felt the presence of his wife throughout whatever he has done.

His decision to close himself in the room is accepting the inevitable. Time has come for him to go from the earth. The purpose for which he had taken the incarnation is complete.

Now see the contrast here. Ram has Hanuman who is capable of stopping death. If Ram wants he can use Hanuman and live as much as he wants. God of death cannot do anything. Ram can circumvent the rule of Prakriti because he has power to do so. But what does he do. He gracefully accepts the rule of Prakriti when Shiv comes. He accepts yes you should never try to alter the path of time. If it happens then it can bring grave consequences with it.

What about Dasrath. Remember the place where that Shabdabedi ban that killed Sravan kumar was kept. The way Dasrath lived in constant fear of death. He thought by shutting the arrow in a room he can alter the path of time. But then Prakriti makes Bhumija open the room and what follows is a series of events that lead to Dasrath's painful death. He tried various ways to circumvent his fate. He used all the wealth and power to get what he wants. He got the son. But unfortunately there was not even a single son to give that last drop of water to their father. What we say the Gangajal that takes away your sin. He died without getting that. Very painfully chanting the name of his elder son to whom injustice happened because of his vachan.

Ram who faces niyati with smile and Dasrath who faced niyati with fear and pain are 2 ends of the spectrum. One went demanding his rights without checking whether he did his duties or not and ended up in miseries and pain. Other went on doing his duties despite the pains it gave him and he got all the rights.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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One more thing about yesterday's episode...the son who came to Ayodhya after injustice to many women was not willing to go back to Ayodhya after BP. It needed Vayuputr to remind about Bhumija's BP goal to bring Ram back to Ayodhya. How very forgiving Prakrithi is...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well I am back 😆. I can never stay away too long with shruthi making such brilliant analysis 😆
I have nothing more to add on. U decoded hanuman perfectly. Dhobi and wife. Sita and ram contrasts held a lot of answers. From kaikeyi to Ram. The whole raghukul u have decoded. It's really interesting that Narayan chose this kul for his Rama avatar.
Coming to the point, only yesterday did I pay attention to the binary theory read through it carefully and understood it fully. Artha, dharma, karma, moksha 👏. Power and wealth use in the right way. Sun and earth perception of east to west. Make a goal, don't decide the path. What Janak does, what ram tries and bhoomija taken in a circular path 👏 👏
Thanks for making this post. It was really thought provoking and to be frank this is my favourite analysis of yours.
And Di the scene in star mb of Arjun and Krishna before the epic battle between parth and karna.
How Krishna message was not understood in the kurusabha neither kurukshetra by few people.
Rams silence, Sita accusing.
I don't expect ram to speak yesterday and yes CVs did that with elan
Thanks for sharing. It was really inspiring and insightful 👏
And also segregation of the thoughts which lies in front of us. U have studies the psychology of people who criticise Ram. But have got that understanding that people just never change, would stoop so low to express themselves right after lot of experience in Tellyupdates. I am blessed that my Bhakti had been true and Narayan decided to reveal his Maya to the faith in him and the medium was u. Thanks Di
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Posted: 8 years ago
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shruthi nice analysis
congrats new thread, just get to know about new thread😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Vd that is the beauty. Sita was Durga, not Kali. She only took from Ayodhya what Ram wanted her to take, but gave back the wealth and power of Ayodhya in the form of Ram and kids. She made it possible for him to correct the rules
@sanju I dont read many threads. Just want to keep myself away from negativity. I have stopped reacting to many comments. Binary theory is very interesting when you re look at it from the perspective of Ramayana
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yes Aayushi a new thread. Yes positivity happened to make inroads in SKR

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