SKR- Of Loops and Symbolisms Thread #6 - Page 2

26/10/2016

Guys let me start with the present times. Do you know the fact that I can write my thoughts in this forum and you people who are not physically present with me, but are at various part of this world can read it, question it understand it, the fundamentals of how this is made possible in the physical realm is based on just 2 numbers 0 and 1. The whole basis of IT or information technology lies in these 2 numbers. Everything finally gets expressed in these two numbers 0 and 1.

If you remember I had made a post long back on Binary theory. The fact that 1 is drawn clockwise and 0 anticlock wise. Did you see how the circle of fire engulfed Sita. It was clockwise.

Now what is 1. 1 is the goal you want to achieve, which will happen with time because 1 is clockwise. If you do the actions correctly you will get your goal on right time. Now how should the action happen. It should be anticlockwise the way zero is drawn.

Or rather Dharma, artha, kama, moksha. Moksha is the ultimate goal. How do you reach there. When you have right knowledge, you acquire wealth both physical for transactions and emotional like friends and relatives the right way, when you have the right wealth, power comes to you the right way, both the power in terms of position and the real power trust of your followers and if you use wealth and power the right way you will get moksha. Or using Purusharth the right way, you live a diginified life, doing all your duties going through all ashramas like Brahmacharya, grihasthashrama, Vanaprastha and Sanyasa taking you to the feet of the Lord.

Now why sun and earth. What is the relation of sun and earth in reality. Do sun move, no. It is the earth that moves. Position of sun is based on earth's position at a particular point of time. How does earth move, west to east. While the perception is created sun is moving from east to west. In reality when earth is at west, sunrise happens heralding a new beginning and when earth is at east sunset happens that is the end of something, death of something.

And if you need the things the right way, how should you move, you have to move according to the earth. Change according to the earth, following the laws of earth. Sun will give you what you want because he has to as you are obeying the earth's laws. You have to move the way you right zero, anticlockwise doing your duty.

Now why does the pain happen. Pain happens because we think sun is moving and move from east to west. Completely against earth. How will we get what we want. The way you right 1, you try to write zero also. You cant. Goal is clockwise, static like sun east to west. Path to the goal is change like zero anticlockwise. West to east.

Now look at Sita's birth. The line is drawn by Janak. How do you plough the field. You put the equipment and move it down, just like 1 is drawn. 1 is drawn correctly by Janak. So Sita comes and she blesses Mithila with everything. Rain, shine, prosperity and everything.

Now Ram also draws a new line. But to draw the new line, Sita had to walk the old line of Ayodhya. Rather the path to reach the new line, the old line where the path is anticlockwise had to be destroyed. And in the destruction of old line, Sita herself gets destroyed physically. That is why the circle came clockwise around her. And that circle was circle of fire. The destructive path.

In short we should have the goal clearly in mind and allow the path to open up. Don't tend to decide the path yourself. When you decide the path you are moving clockwise, destroying yourself, destroying those around you and living in misery always. Because you are moving against the law of nature. To correct this path, someone will have to take immense pain like Ram-Sita. Yes Dasrath wanted a son. No problem. If he had faith some path other than doing Puthrakamesthi would have opened up for him to have the heir. That would have given him more peace than a painful death with none of his sons around. Also his most loving wife doing the biggest treachery with him.

Now the question to Hanuman and Sita's questions yesterday. Before I come to Hanuman let me go to Sita's hard hitting questions yesterday. Why did you do treachery to me. Go back to the rajsabha where Ram asks the Dhobi to take back his wife. What does he tell, he will not take back the wife who disobeyed him. Now if we see the dhobi's wife is getting accused by him and then she decides to leave him. He tells her if he goes from here he will not take her back. The lady after going some distance feels bad and come back. But he refuses to forgive her and refuses to take her back. He shows the right and might of a man. Telling he will not give a woman a chance of repentance or chance to correct her mistake. He belittles his wife very much in front of Ram to the extend telling he is not Ram to take his disobeying wife back. Now this man has to be shown his place. How can it be done. By allowing a wife to mercilessly question her husband in public. That too when she is given all the rights of a wife and a queen. Ram says allow him to correct the mistake. Sita refuses telling she is not his wife. Same thing the dhobi tells his wife that he is not her husband. Woman falls at a man's feet for mercy while he shows none. The king falls at the feet of the queen to show mercy. She doesn't do. She doesn't give him a chance to live with her physically and correct the mistakes. She goes. Inflicting lasting wounds on the man who questioned Ram and his actions in the Rajsabha. Also on those men who thought her impure, who think they have every right to misbehave with their wives. She showed how it will look when the wife does the same thing. When she doesn't give husband a second chance, which Krishna makes Panchali give to the Pandavas. Yes Narayan himself couldn't live a happy life with his better half because of what society and its rule did. But when he came as Krishna he gave another man Arjun a life lesson in such a way, enabled him to fight the war in such a way that he does live with his wife and also the grandchild. Yes he loses his son, but then something has to be lost. But he is able to give justice to his wife in her lifetime itself. That's why understanding epics is important, so that if you understand the learnings you will commit less mistakes. If you move with Prakriti, you will be able to have more fulfilling life. A life with less pain. For us also we have to change direction. But to see the effect of the change all karmas results in the past direction has to go and then the results in new direction will start coming.

Now last but not the least. Hanuman. Ram told Hanuman to protect Sita and Hanuman told even if earth comes he will protect her. What does Hanuman actually protect. He protects Sita's needs by protecting Ram. He protects Ram both physically and emotionally. Physically when Ram tries to enter the fire circle because Ram cannot go. Only Sita's duty is over. Not his. He has duty towards his sons and that is what Sita has entrusted him with. Then Sita had sacrificied herself for the betterment of woman and Ram had told he will work for it. Ram held the power through his wife's sacrifice to bring about the change. But he is heart broken. Once again Hanuman comes and gives sanity. Tell him if he wants Sita, they all will have to give what Sita wanted. Sita will live in those actions. Hanuman is Sankatmochan. Not of Ram-Siya but of entire universe. So he has to ensure the pain of all the woman is alleviated for which Ram is needed and Sita has to live through his actions.

Then comes the change of laws in Ayodhya. The main law being a father or husband cannot send away the daughter or wife just like that. She has equal rights in their property. Or rather if a daughter or wife is banished she can come to the king and tell her grievance. The law will protect her and her husband or father will have to comply to it.

Look where the story started. It started in a Kaikeyi who has her mother banished. So when she gets married she does everything in her power to keep her husband happy so that she need not have to face her mother's fate. Yet she faces it. Her husband and son sacrificies her. And the action she did which led to her sacrifice finally leads to the banishment of another lady her DIL Sita. Society didn't change with first 2 sacrificies reason Kaikeyi thought her father was right, Bharath thought his father is right. But Luv -Kush they thought their father is wrong. Sanskriti called Sanskriti wrong and the process of change happened. Rigidity exists when Prakriti calls Prakriti wrong. Woman she needs to understand herself and other woman. Why they did what they did. If Prakriti understand each other, patriarchy can be broken .

The changes that finally Ram makes, the idea of Ram Rajya it would not have been possible without Sita's hard hitting questions. Especially the banishment part. Because people wont listen, law not enough. But the way Sita went will ensure more compliance towards the law.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Thanks Savitha. In all the hungama of discussing Sita's BP I forgot to share a beautiful experience I had. Got a chance to meet Shrimati Sudha Murthy in person. Her speech simply captivated you. Her journey from a girl, to a wife to a mother it was interesting to hear. People bombarded her with questions how it is being wife of Mr Narayana Murthy, how she felt when she gave Rs 10000 to Murthy. The lady answered all maybe the nth time she is doing the same. All in all she inspired the group. It was a meeting only for the ladies managers from IT who were involved in community services . shee gave quite a lot of idea of the area we should be looking into, which included sanitary napkin distribution in government schools and support for drug de addiction centres and alchohol de addiction centres. She was talking about the young children and teenagers who she has come across in these de addiction centres and how heartbreaking it was to see the future of country getting destroyed like this.

Though it is not an unknown thing that drug addiction is happening in large scale her speech did make me reflect on that. I felt the youngsters in this forum will be able to answer it better. As in my time we had certain moral grounding and most people including boys didn't stray much on that. Drugs as such were taboo among people and maybe we came across 1 or at the most 2 in our known group.

How is it now. What do you people feel about it. Any thoughts on how we can guide the youngsters so that they don't fall prey to this. What kind of lifestyle, pressures in your environment making students go for such drastic measures and destroy themselves. What exactly are your problems. I know teenage problems, youth problems will be similar to mine, but the technology induced stress which was not there in my teenage and youth days your generation have and you people have much better knowledge on this than me.

I go to schools to teach students during weekends. if you could give suggestions, guidance on what all topics if we cover, the way we cover can help students stay away from these menance that will be helpful. De addiction is secondary. I am more looking at nipping that tendency itself atleast wherever I go to teach.

Originally posted by: jeena1993

Shruti di don't tell me that u r not one of the CVs of SKR.😆😆😆How do u get all these connections just from symbols ??? Hats off to u boss.👏👏👏

Now I understood why u said Hanuman's bachan a double sword. Ram indirectly took promise from him to protect Sita by standing with her decision, protecting her needs he just kept his promise by not protecting her physically but protecting Ram what is more important to forward her movement she started for women.

Now Ram's silence part. Am not convinced yet. I know he kept quite so that Siya can ask, to give his wife the power to reject. I love this part ". How can it be done. By allowing a wife to mercilessly question her husband in public. That too when she is given all the rights of a wife and a queen. Ram says allow him to correct the mistake. Sita refuses telling she is not his wife. Same thing the dhobi tells his wife that he is not her husband. Woman falls at a man's feet for mercy while he shows none. The king falls at the feet of the queen to show mercy. She doesn't do. She doesn't give him a chance to live with her physically and correct the mistakes. She goes. Inflicting lasting wounds on the man who questioned Ram and his actions in the Rajsabha. Also on those men who thought her impure, who think they have every right to misbehave with their wives. She showed how it will look when the wife does the same thing. When she doesn't give husband a second chance"

But at least CVs can show Ram answaring those questions to Sita alone in private to her soul as he often did after banishment. Did they want to so that Ram remained guilty till death even after establishing laws for women wellfare ?? In my pov it would be good if Ram could ans those que of Siya.

BTW loved the binary theory part and the scientific as well as ethical connection between sun and earth,earth's movement from west to east and last but not the least the significance of circle of fire. I did not ever think about Sun and moon in this direction. Why Ram was unable to draw a line in Mithila was a new connection for me. It is well described.

Originally posted by: Cluny13

@shruthi Di just recently there was a vodka bottle found in my classmates bag and a fellow classmate who saw it in the girls bag went and reported to the teacher. The teacher who is very experienced made the tight lipped girl open up in private. Her boyfriend had given and she kept in bag it seems.
Unknowingly girls get addicted in few cases as far as I know.