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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shabari14

Yes, di. The truth does liberate and lies trap.
When the Ayodhya vasis thought Sita was not loyal, and Sita was banished, Sita was trapped in a life of misery. And when the people realized their mistake, they were trapped in an enormous feeling of guilt. Like the truth, lies don't only affect one person, but also the people around them.


The uttar kand if my fav part in ramayan. Ayodha by questioning the truth repeatedly lost janaki who took all happiness with her. Lord did give chance for ayodhya praja for change in mindset through luv and kush whose questions melted them yet they demanded proof.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Yes gowri di and that line was said by gokhale a freedom fighter so I don't have a answer to that question

Understand truth, accept it and deal with it. In this the praja of ram did fail miserably
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Jhanvi di saw ur comment in million dollar question so u have finished engineering? And supposedly looking for job. All the best di may u get the job u wish for and satisfied with🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Cluny123

Yes gowri di and that line was said by gokhale a freedom fighter so I don't have a answer to that question

Understand truth, accept it and deal with it. In this the praja of ram did fail miserably


Oh, that's nice! In my view, I think that the wife of a person is Karma, once done, it only leaves you at death, and comes back in the next birth. What do you think. And Janvhi di, all the best from me too!
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Posted: 9 years ago
What is ur take on adbhoot ramayan gowri di do u feel it is needed
Will tell my views later
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shabari14

19 August 2016

Ram and Ravan face each other, in two opposite sides and with two opposite motives. Ravan wants to defeat Ramby breaking the confidence Ram has in Dharma and destroying the army, while Ram wants to create a mirror of fear and realization around Ravan that will lead to the establishment of Dharma in Lanka. Creating and destroying are two actions that use Shakti, but in different forms. Competence is the ability to create and power is the ability to destroy. One principle of life is that confidence is contained in our soul, while fear is projected from the soul and encloses us from the outside. So, to reach that confidence and destroy it, Ravan would have to pass through Ram's body and soul. That means that Ravan would have to know Ram before destroying his fear. And to create fear, Ram would have to also reach the source of fear, the soul, and instill it there. To do anything with a person, it is very important to know that person. The person's personality and actions give clues to us that tell us what should be done in what situation. To abduct Sita, Ravan had to find out about her weaknesses and behavior. And to kill Ravan, Ram had to know about the secret of the amrit and his Achilles' heal. To destroy, the most important secret is weaknesses, and to create, the most important is strengths. Because weaknesses are easiest to exploit and strengths are the ones that endure every situation.

Sita sends Ram the Shakti mantra through Trijata on a letter. This letter becomes the key to solving Ram's problem and ridding Him of His worry. There are many people like Sita around us, our close ones and even strangers, but the biggest doorbell is within us, our consciousness. Whenever we face any crossroads or problems, our consciousness sends us signals through events in our lives (Trijata). Those events carry lessons that will help us not just then, but our whole life. It is up to us whether we respect its words or we ignore it.

The theme of this episode is lost. Ravan is lost in his ego, even after facing Ram's arrows. And Ram was lost in anxiety due to the war, but Sita relieved him of the worry by telling him the Shakti Puja. Humans are a separate group from the devas and asurs, why? Because we are a combination of both. Some people are lost in the darkness of the mortal world, while others are free from such bondages. Some people see God, while others see nothing. What is the difference between the two? The seeing people want to see, while the trapped people are happy in their own world. Like said in the Gita, there is not a single person who strives for perfection. Everyone has their own guidelines for their perfect world, and they stay bonded there. Only when you hit a strong blow on the chains with all of your desperation and will, you will be free to go back to our really perfect world with our absolutely Perfect Lord.


Brilliant analysis di
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Cluny123

What is ur take on adbhoot ramayan gowri di do u feel it is needed
Will tell my views later


Maharishi Valmiki wrote both the Ramayan and the Adbhut Ramayan. The Adbhut Ramayan is the dialogue between Rishi Bharadwaj and him. I think any perspective of the Ramayan is necessary because each perspective gives us a clearer picture of the Ramayan. The Valmiki Ramayan is mostly on Ram and has very less dialogue from Sita. But, in the Adbhut Ramayan, Sita is given more scope and is portrayed more as the strong woman who sacrificed her happy life to establish Dharma. The more perspectives of different characters there are, the better our understanding will become. Thank you for reading the analysis, Sanju!
Edited by shabari14 - 9 years ago
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Updated August 22 analysis on pg 54
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24 August 2016

The war between Ravan and Ravan commences. Ravan is sitting on his chariot in the air, while Ram is standing on the Earth. The still Earth supports the ever moving Air. A reflection of human nature. Every facet of our nature is affected by the events and the people around us. A person might be very kind because they have seen suffering all around them or they have been surrounded by kind people their whole life. Like that Ram and Ravan have been surrounded by good and bad there whole life, but the good fueled Ravan's bad, while the bad fueled Ram's goodness. It's like a fire. If a destructive fire is already made by a lot of wood, no matter what you put into it, wood or ghee, fuels it even more. And at the end, it destroys everything. But, if you have a fire of a yagna, it is built for a good cause. If you add more wood and ghee, the wood is destroyed and the ghee fuels the fire. And it provides warmth and light. If Ram is the fire bound by the havan kund, and Ravan is the forest fire, free and destructive, the Sita is the Earth, that Ram tries to protect and Ravan tries to destroy. No matter who tries to help or who tries to destroy, the Earth stays the way it was, strong, free, but in Maryada.

The divine rath is gifted to Ram by Indra, just like a divine rath was gifted to Arjun by Agni Dev. The differences are the mediums and the personal purposes. Ram wanted to free Sita from the clutches of Ravan, while Arjun wanted to free Panchali from the clutches of humiliation and hatred. Panchali needed inner freedom and Sita needed physical freedom. And to help the Earth, Ram asked help from the Rain god. To help the Fire, Arjun asked the Fire God's help. Ram quelled the thirsty Earth's thirst, and freed her from the drought. But, if you already have a fire, and you add more fire, what happens? The fire increases. So, Sita's suffering ends, while Panchali's increases. And even during and after their death, this fact is reflected. Sita dies in front of everyone and in a place where the world is placed and loved, while no one looks at Panchali when she dies in the lonely and renounced Himalayas. . The true human is the one who is attached but detached, meaning attached to God and his children, but detached from Maya. Sita was this, but Panchali was the opposite, attached to Maya or vengeance, but she remained detached from people, trying to enclose herself in her cage of sorrow.

The theme of the episode is tries. Ram tries to kill Ravan so many times, but he keeps on coming back to life. And Mahadev tries to help Ram by telling Indra to give the divine rath. The characters taught me today that trying isn't enough, knowing is also important. Without knowledge and thought, actions can never be truly fulfilled. Ram was just shooting an arrow I the dark, he did not know what would kill Ravan and why, he was just trying and trying. On the other hand, Mahadev knew the secret of Ravan's death, so he told Indra Dev to give the means. Not doing anything but giving the information and means is more effective than trying to do something without knowing how you will do it. The essence is the most important, not the matter.



Edited by shabari14 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
There are some versions of the Adhbut Ramayana where they show Shri Rama lesser than Sita. But the original wasn't like that. In that, they stress more on Sita being Jaganmata.
The explanation for Sita becoming Bhadrakali was simple:
The Tridevon and Trideviyon are considered one entity in this. So they are one and the same.

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