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Posted: 8 years ago
FROM EARTH TO EARTH
Years ago She was the pride of mithila and the bride of Shri Ram and today with her attire stands in the same position but not without completing a journey that defined Ram and Sanskriti.
Shruthi di beautifully analysed. The line u bought a perfect closure to it.
Savithi di as always well analysed. Indeed Sita did what she did to bring a elemental change in the society. What is in our control first is as girls/woman is to do our duty and go in the direction the God shows and being a woman we should never ever make a mahalaksmis sacrifice become useless. Even a single woman should not misuse her feminity no matter what. What is more saddening is to see such woman in the society. I pray as much as oppression should end this too should end.
Aditi di u analysed Siya Ram in the most beautiful manner. U highlighted their pure love and well laid points di
Welcome C8RIE to this thread. 🤗 Am glad u found an answer to uttarkand. Yes we sent back Mahalakshmi and we should promise ourself never ever to get hypocrite or let the society's cheap thinking( not always ) get into us.
Vidya di and Mano di u added wonderful points. It was a delight to read.

What is dharma for Ram can never be dharm for krishna because they belong to different Yugas. Ram upholds the rule. He sacrifices, sacrifice silently. Dharma however noble in intent is a tough choice any day. Right people make right choices
Bhoomadevi salutes Vishnu as Govinda guardian of earth.
All wealth whatever it is has its origin under the ground. Lakshmi the goddess of wealth was born from this realm.
Vishnu descended as Ram and krishna not just for restablishning order but for redefining them.
Sita is always Gauri for ram. Kali for Lanka. Durga for Ayodhya. If am not mistaken.

As Visa di said the real Mata Sita would have never said that to ram but today by giving such a dialogue they did clear our doubts. Why Sita was sent in secrecy? Visa di u are analysing really well👏
Skr Sita mentions Renuka. I agree Renuka was pure but she was punished only because unadulterated thoughts entered her, isn't it?

They sacrificed their all for public welfare.
Jai Siya Ram

Well in advance Happy Diwali everyone.

Edited by Cluny13 - 8 years ago
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Is ensuring only the vachan of Rajdharma is kept Raghukul ki neeti. Phew I was like 👏👏👏. Sita's dialogues to Ram was a beauty. The way she questioned her husband in public and none of the queens could open their mouth. Posting analysis soon. All I could see was Shanta
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Why did Ram send Sita away without even letting her know or letting her see him... Beautifully answered, he didn't want to leave any reason for Sita to return back to Ayodhya and stand for the rights of women. If it had been the other way, then Sita could not have gone past the bhandhan of pati-patni and also there wouldn't have been this fire in her to fight for justice.
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Shruthi di, eagerly waiting for your analysis 😛
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25/10/2016

What should I call today's episode. Sita raises all the questions to the society. I loved the way she answered everyone. Queens say she has to be in the society to bring the change. Sumitra says as queen she can bring change. Sita says she was also queen. Did it give her protection from the perception society has about woman. They were also queens. Could they bring the change. No one has answer. She tells her sisters not to become her weakness. When Lakshman tries to commit suicide she stops him and tells he is not at fault. A society that doesn't allow the questioning of children to parents and students to teachers will never change. The old archaic laws will continue. We need to know even after yugas this is practiced as men want it. They don't want change. What happened to Panchali in Dwapara yuga was the aftermath of this rule. With Kunti's words she became wife to 5 men. In infamous hall of dice Arjun and Bhima shouts but they are unable to go against Dharmaputra who made them slaves. Even in Kaliyuga when valid questions are asked kids are rebuked. It is told it is like this. As a society we bring the kids fearful of questioning, fearful of change and many perish unable to adapt to change.

Change is a feminine aspect, while constant is masculine aspect. Change and constant needs to be balanced according to the time. Sita tells the kids what she has given them is direction, not order and according to situation they have to take decision. Believe me if the direction is correct in any circumstances a person will take the right choice. That is why it is said you should always follow the direction of knowledgeable. That is why if you feel confused it is better to place yourself as Arjun and request direction from Krishna. Don't do action in confused state. Only after confusion is clarified you should proceed. I said earlier also, seeing their mother's sacrifice and why she did the same Luv-Kush will ensure no woman faces injustice in Ayodhya. Because they lose their mother at the tender age of 12 because of the injustice society did to woman.

Now coming to Ram. We have discussed this questions in detail in the previous episode. Now why Sita questions her husband in public. Note the point there. Rajaram didn't allow her to see his face. She clearly addresses Rajaram not Sitaram. And the questions to him is the questions to society especially the question in Raghukul, that in Raghukul only the vachan of Rajadharma is kept, not any other vachan. The pertinent question we also asked. What about the vachan given to the wife in front of agni. Why does the society doesn't allow a man to keep the vachan he has given to his better half. It is a very pertinent question, still relevant to our times , where a man is son, brother not a husband. If he listens to wife or do something for wife then he is Joru ka Ghulam. Though the question is for Ram, it is actually Ayodhya and Raghuvansh that is getting hurt. Raghuvansh starts bowed in front of Janaki unable to answer even one of her questions.

Then she says she has completed her duty as a mother and given the kids to him. Now she is neither someone's wife, nor someone's daughter and she is free to take the decision. Note the point there. Sita is stressing it is not the wife or daughter who is taking the decision, it is an independent woman who is at that point queen of Ayodhya. She is a wife, if not she wouldn't have worn the sindoor. Sindoor remains hidden in her maang tikka. She is a daughter, if she is not she wouldn't have worn the wedding dress and jewellery her father had given her. And then comes the last part. Her proof. To the society who put a question on her purity. Asking the mother earth to prove to the world her purity by taking her. No one is asking her that. But she gives them that, giving a tight slap to every voice that questioned her. And when she goes she takes the power of the system that has done injustice to woman with her. Even today a Jyoti Pandey had to suffer for us to discuss rape in the public sphere and question the prevailing ethos regarding it.

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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Well analysed Shruthi di.
Sita telling I am neither anyone's wife nor daughter reminds me of Panchali in kurusabha stating the same. I neither have a kul, name, nor am I a wife, daughter
Never do action when in confusion👍🏼.
In mb yes again a mothers decision had to be accepted without questioning. No place for rectification but just like Sita, draupdis Tough choice proved better for the world.
Change is the only constant. Thus Prakriti and Sanskriti coexist.
I remember ram telling on hilltop raghukul respects all dharm and not only raj dharm when he declares Eka patni vrat. It did indeed follow putr dharm, everything except when it came to Sita. Ram was forced to abandon. Narayan brought it out in the open today.
Post updated page 147😃

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@vd it is not done yet. What Ram wanted will most probably be shown clearly tomorrow if my instincts are right. I want SKR to show it, show it explicitly that this action of Sita is what Ram wanted. All his secret banishment and pain he gave her was for this purpose. So that she stand up for the rights of the woman and support him in clearly defining the new line. Yes Sita is Durga for Ayodhya. Gauri and Kali coexist in her.
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Thanks for the post Shruthi di. It's as usual really good, but I want the answers to the questions Sita raised...
And Ram's way of abandoning Sita was indeed never cleared by the CVs... It's just with our discussions we have come to a conclusion. And I am happy that I understand that part now... but I want if SKR has raised this question, then they shud answer properly, not by giving hints. If questions are direct answer shud come directly ...
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@vd it is not done yet. What Ram wanted will most probably be shown clearly tomorrow if my instincts are right. I want SKR to show it, show it explicitly that this action of Sita is what Ram wanted. All his secret banishment and pain he gave her was for this purpose. So that she stand up for the rights of the woman and support him in clearly defining the new line. Yes Sita is Durga for Ayodhya. Gauri and Kali coexist in her.



True agree Shruthi. But it will be more like him talking to himself or Janak talking in solitude with Ram or ram/Hanuman conversation. Other ways declaring the reason will break the perception built. Or maybe even VishLa...waiting to see how it is handled in SKR.
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@aditi they will give direct, in a indirect way is my take. Because direct dialogues I doubt they will give. Because then the perception breaks as vd said. Even today in front of society it is the angry wife, but SKR clearly showed Sita is not angry, Sita knows Ram has kept vachan to her, she knows she and her kids he had protected through Hanuman. All the behind scenes is exposed to us. This will also be exposed only to us, not to society.😃

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