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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: daydreamers


@ bold Yaha aane wala Har buddhimaan vyakti yahi kehta hai 😆

Kyun shruthi? 😆

And the tym when the silence breaks we know the truth... Its a surprise.. Aisa kuch hota hai that even we can't think of.. So we always urge ppl not to be silent..

Cmn to story progression. Am not watching as of now.. But IPL tak yeh time pass chalega 😆 so dhairya rakho..

Plus actors falling ill. Danish is down with chicken pox and madirakshi fainted cz of heat stroke.. So thoda patience can work 😃

😆 Why are you not watching ? I don't understand the craze of IPL. They FF 10 years in 5 minutes and now they are dragging 😕 I watch only Ram scenes and FF the episode till they progress with the story. I never used to do that with SKR till bharat Ram milap. They disappointed me with the panchvathi track. I had expected a lot from the makers after the way they progressed with the story.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: divine_ram

😆 Why are you not watching ? I don't understand the craze of IPL. They FF 10 years in 5 minutes and now they are dragging 😕 I watch only Ram scenes and FF the episode till they progress with the story. I never used to do that with SKR till bharat Ram milap. They disappointed me with the panchvathi track. I had expected a lot from the makers after the way they progressed with the story.


I have my stupid exams 😆 knocking my door...

I think things will change with abduction.. Let's wait and then comment. I really hope.. With Nikhil sinha I don't expect a blunder after dkdm. So let's wait..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Guys will post analysis tomorrow hopefully
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Guys will post analysis tomorrow hopefully


And ur story too on writingmania😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello, thank you Sruthi di for taking my name(I feel special!) and everyone for continuing such a lovely thread. I had some thoughts about today's episode, so if I am thinking something wrong, please enlighten me.

When I was a silent reader, I read on this thread a comparison that Sita was the equivalent of prakriti. So, adding on to that, today, prakriti or Sita broke the maya or Surpanakha, just like it always does( I am not calling Surpanakha Parvati, I am saying she is using the maya). Prakriti is pure and has no deception and maya is just plain illusion. Lord Vishnu's sister and helper is maya, Goddess Parvati, but only Prakriti, Maa Lakshmi is his consort. This is why Surpanakha is rejected.

Also, Sruthi di, I completely agree with you when you said that unless you are a good daughter and sister, you cannot be a good wife or mother. A women carries out many duties- a wife, daughter, mother, mother-in-law, sister, so many. But the way women carry their duties out distinguish them. This is why the Panchkanya and Sita are revered today- they all were ideal women who carried out their duties in the ideal way, and people like Surpanakha are scorned.


I would also like to share my thoughts with you guys about the serial, so could I join?

Gowri
By the way, Sruthi di, did you post one of your separate analyses, I didn't see one?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I updated my signature as inactive but came across the last post 😆 can't help posting..
Gowri barge in please... There's no need to seek permissions.. This thread is open to all. We would like to hear you out... 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@DD you want me to read your poetry and Shivam you want me to write stories 😆😆. Guys only I know how much I want to do all these. Sit and read all the stories, SS, FF poems and all. But to be frank for the last 2 months I have been struggling like anything and to be frank I dont know how I manage it, but somehow I manage to write in this thread, even when I couldnt make an individual post.
Gowri I didnt make individual thread yesterday. And dear what a beautiful description of Maya. Yes Parvati is Vishnu's sister and he always comes with her. In Ramayana she is not visible per se, but when it comes to Krishna, Maya is obvious. Also Gouri you spoke about some story of surpi in the last thread. I am not aware of it. If you could please post that

Savitha yes the book Celestine Prophecy is of Radfield
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I liked yesterday's episode...
So finally Surpi crossed all limits by taking the help of Maya.. By creating an illusion for Ram.. But wasn't she herself succumbed in illusion? One side she knew that Ram won't go to any other lady except Sita, and on the other hand she tries out these tactics, one day she says she will impress him with her looks next day she loses her own identity to impress him ...

This reminds me of Ahalya story.. Indra too did the same.. Showing there was no difference btw Indra and Surpi, even though Indra was a dev and Surpi a Rakshasi...

Madirakshi was excellent in portraying both Surpi nd Sita 👏

When Surpi came to Ram his perplexed look made it clear that he had sensed the distortion in Prakriti.. He asks about Lakshman, she gives a convincing answer, still he is not satisfied, he doesn't even eat the fruit in one go, he was avoiding, but when Surpi said it wud be disrespect of Mahadev he started to eat.. He chose Sanskriti over Prakriti (I maybe wrong in this one 😆😆 )
Now question arises why Ram couldn't sense it was not Sita..
My friend was saying that Ram also fell in trap of Maya when Meghnad kills Maya Sita in front of him.. So why not this time ?

Sita too has the anubhooti of something going wrong with Ram..
Lakshman's concern for Sita was lovely to see 😳
So this time Sita's premonition about Ram was right and Lakshman thinking dat everything was fine, was proved wrong..
In golden deer time she will be wrong, and he will be right.. But the thing which remains constant in Lakshman's care /worry for Sita...

Sita's dialogues to Surpi sply the one "u understood wat u wanted to understand " again illusion, Maya.. 👏

Nose cutting scene was well done Karan was too good 👍🏼.. What I liked most was it was shown as a mistake, in fit of rage..
Another thing .. They showed Ram and Laksh showed concern for Sita but in their own unique way, while Laksh showed active, Ram was defensive in his approach.. Just the way Ram and Lakshman are ...
Ram's expressions to Lakshman after he cuts Surpi's nose, I usually don't say much about Ashish, but today I have to give it to him 👏

Sita then goes to Surpi to make her realise her mistake, And Surpi says that Sita will have to pay the biggest prize .. A day will cum when she will be standing in Surpi's shoes during the Agni pariksha.. But will her Ram be able to protect her this time? That's something to ponder upon...

Ps thank u Shruthi di, janu for liking the banner 😛
Welcome Gowri 😊
Meghna is also there in the thread, welcome 😃

Edited by aditi97 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yesterday's analysis. I was telling right my mind going back to Shanta. I couldnt help but compare Shanta and Surpi. I understood why yesterday. When Surpi says the price of her revenge will be borne most by Sita. I will come to that in the last part.
First let me look into the Maya. See surpi failed in all the aspects to lure Ram. Now she thinks if she is like Sita she can lure him. And she takes the form of Sita. And plays with his emotions. Look at the way she tries to feed that fruit to Ram. Maybe that fruit is used to seduce. Though the girls of today are idiots as far as seduction goes , I feel the woman of those days not only women like surpi, but women from well to do families will also know the techniques of seduction. Difference will be the woman with value will use it in her room with her husband, which is acceptable and women like surpi will use it to satisfy lust.

But more than the form of Sita, look at the form of seduction. Surpi was playing with Ram's emotions. And believe me a woman who wants to win over a man will try to find his emotional achilles heel and then play on it. Even Maa Parvati does it as Durga with Mahisasur. For e.g if a rich widower with a kid has to be trapped into a marriage, use the kid, behave well with the kid and once marriage done, onc e you have the man tied to your apron show your oriignal roop. And some of the saas in today's daily soap are also like that. Manipulate the son's emotions and use it to their advantage.

If you see at physical level every attack Ram was able to resist. But when Surpi went at emotional level using Maya, we see Ram faltering. He has his doubts, but still he is unable to tell what is wrong. We see him slowly succumbing.
And when Sita Haran happens, she fails physically to resist Ravan, but Ravan is unable to touch her emotionally.
And this is where a woman scores over a man. Her emotional strength. Power of her mind and her ability to resist Maya or illusions as she herself is Maya.
Problem is Sanskriti knows only physical strength as Sanskriti is weak from inside and so it loves to exploit the physical weakness of Prakriti or women. And women they never understand their real strength to give it back to Sanskriti in their own coin.

Now we see Sita running. She hit a stone. Still she runs as she feels something bad is gonna happen. And she sees Surpi. Now cut this to golden deer. Once again Sita proven right. That something bad is gonna happen to Ram.

Note the interesting point. Sita after getting hit by a stone takes the most painful walk to her parnakudi. Stone is also part of Prakriti. To protect sanskriti from doing a mistake, Prakriti takes the pain.
And we need to know what kind of Sanskriti. Ram is the man who loves Sita , respects her and treats her as an individual at par with him. To protect such a man's dignity the one who truly loves takes the pain. And this is long running. For his sake, for his dignity sita will go through AP, through banishment for all the love and respect he has given her.

Surpi-Sita face off was the best. It felt like Gowri-Kali face off. They were kind of mirror images. Both strong willed and independent. Only difference one believes in giving and the other believes in taking.

And what is the mistake Lakshman did in between, in his emotional outburst. He came between 2 bhavs of Prakriti. Sanskriti came between Prakriti. He should have either allowed Sita to handle it or allowed Ram to step in. Because they were the affected parties. But his love for them, he reacts injuring Kali.

And Sita who understands Prakriti knows that the only way a woman attacked can be pacified is by saying sorry. Else in the fire everything will burn. Sita goes or rather gowri goes and says sorry. Felt like Surpi almost fell for her sorry. Till she used the word vasana or lust. What surpi had was lust. But surpi the woman will never look inside. Look she finds fault with everyone. With Ram, with Lakshman and blames them for insulting her. But she got insulted because of herself. For going behind a man who is married and who on clear terms told her he does not want to marry second time. She lost her pride because of her actions. And when Sita told the truth she couldnt take it and told she will take revenge. I would love to see surpi- Sita dynamics in Lanka.

Now since Sanskriti came between Prakriti, Prakriti will have to come between Sanskriti that is between Ram and Ravan for the destruction of existing Sanskriti.

Laxman cut the nose or pride of the destructive Prakriti. And tomorrow to get back the constructive Prakriti or Sita he will have to take a journey of handling his emotions and directing it the right way.

Last part why Shanta lingers. DD you told during Ayodhya kand epi Dasrath calls Sita Putri and it reminded you of Shanta. And we were sad Dasrath didnt die when Shanta was there or the CVs didnt bring Shanta during Dasrath's death.

But now I understand why it didnt happen. What did Shanta get from Ayodhya. She was made a tool to get a boy child.
And what is Sita going to get from Ayodhya. The woman who walked with her husband, the woman who took her husband to the height of the glory is going to be banished from Ayodhya.

In a nutshell what are the daughters of Ayodhya getting. Answer is in the golden statue of Sita kept by Ram. She has to be like gold, malleable, can be put into any shape as man of Ayodhya wishes and just like the shining metal she will have no voice, no individuality. And if she needs to have one, then of course she will have to take Shanta's route or will be banished like Sita.

Just like present day society where woman are called Saraswati, Lakshmi, Shakthi. Whose pooja happens in temples, but are treated like secondary citizens in their homes. And even in temples which has woman deities a woman cannot do the pooja, only a man can. What an irony right.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@aditi nice take . Yaa you highlighted that expression of Ashish which Ram gives to Lakshman.It was so sweet and so natural.
Aditi Ram was about to choose Sanskriti over Prakriti, but Prakriti comes stopping him at the right time. Yes Ram is a human, so him succumbing to Maya should be shown. Because it happens with the most upright human.

And you said Surpi lost her identity. Aditi you should never lose your core values, core principles for anything. If you do that then you cease to exist. That's why surpi's nose went. 😆😆

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