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Posted: 9 years ago
Shruthi The difference between Ramayan and Mahabharat is in the nature of evil. In Ramayan the evil was more or less concentrated in the demon's lair...it had an identity in the demon's race. So righteousness was used to combat the evil forces. Even knowledge was used in its pure form to win over evil. Except for Vali Vadh where the tactics used were not that pure. Maybe that is why Ram accepts the result of his actions in the Krishna avatar as a means to end his avatar in the form of a hunter's arrow, what a impartial and balanced sense of justice God has.
In the Mb, the evil had a human form, so it resulted in a lot of grey areas in the dispensing of justice, didn't it? Krishna directly could not kill the humans who were bad, so he became a teacher and guide for the righteousness to win and the society to balance itself.
Savita
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Posted: 9 years ago
savita 👏 ⭐️ wow!!!!
shruthi even am drooling on meghnad 😆 its like each layer is peeled off in each episode.. plus the contrast with lakshman.. ⭐️ its a treat..
and yes am loving sita's world breaking apart...👏 i loved the sequence.. it was pretty fast.. sita wants good even for asuras.. cut to virat scene.. ram does gives him a chance.. he asks him to back off but no use... it was a whistle worthy scene...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: avalonhigh1234

Shruthi The difference between Ramayan and Mahabharat is in the nature of evil. In Ramayan the evil was more or less concentrated in the demon's lair...it had an identity in the demon's race. So righteousness was used to combat the evil forces. Even knowledge was used in its pure form to win over evil. Except for Vali Vadh where the tactics used were not that pure. Maybe that is why Ram accepts the result of his actions in the Krishna avatar as a means to end his avatar in the form of a hunter's arrow, what a impartial and balanced sense of justice God has.
In the Mb, the evil had a human form, so it resulted in a lot of grey areas in the dispensing of justice, didn't it? Krishna directly could not kill the humans who were bad, so he became a teacher and guide for the righteousness to win and the society to balance itself.
Savita


Exactly my thoughts Savita 👏👏
I read this somewhere:
Satya Yuga- Rakshasas
Treta Yuga- Asuras
Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga- Men and women.

Depending on the evil, God is born to eradicate it
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Posted: 9 years ago
@Savitha in Dwapar Yug atleast it was different people. But in Kaliyuga it exists in all. The Asur bhav exists in every person and dev bhav also exists in every person. You have all the 3 gunas in you.
You yourself had analyzed the 3 places based on gunas. Don't you feel while watching SKR we can connect with all the places.
Mithila gives us the warmth igniting the sattva guna in us. Ayodhya makes understand the bandhan's of human, the mistakes we do to protect Sanskriti. We can relate to Ayodhya's pain as it happens in all our lives and Lanka height of manipulation, the selfishness and ego in us. It is there in us and haven't you felt at times it also comes out.
When I was reading the book " Secret" Rhonda Byrne talks about the frequency. She says if the frequency of good thoughts goes 51% that's the tipping point. Everything changes. Isnt that true don't we have a choice to nurture the right gunas within us. Isnt that both Ramayana and MB teaching. To bring out the sattva guna or deva guna in us, to do things that will nurture the satva guna. We have the choice right.
By understanding history, by understanding stories we can make corrections right and isn't that both Ram and Krishna wanted. That the human realize the God within them. That his most precious creation become a tool that can architect a world that he envises. Something that is full of love and compassion.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Well said, Shruthi 👏👏

Both of them want humans to realise the Divine in them; that is when you feel a oneness with God. This thread brings out my spirituality more than ever.
Jan, Shruthi 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
hey good morning all.
I have a lot of questions n a lot of things to discuss here..

but first i need to retype my response to Geena which i lost the day before..

All, esp. Shruthi n Savita, will u be around for a while?
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Posted: 9 years ago
@Shirley I will hang around on and off 😃.
Thanks Srutha, when I write I feel happy😃
@DD forgot to mention. See the way Sita's world is shattering. Through wind. Beautiful symbolism. Wind or feelings are the reason she sends away Lakshman and Ravan takes her through air. Bhumija is taken through air. She was a grounded girl, but the emotions which she was unable to handle, makes her end up in the hands of a man who doesn't value the earth he stands on , but want to fly in the sky.
And see how her world is restored. Again by wind. Pavanputra Hanuman. Born to Anjali and Kesari with the soul of wind in him, he knows both the worlds that of Prakriti and Sanskriti. He respects the earth he stands on, if need arises can fly in the sky too. He doesn't go gaga over his ability to fly in the sky, but he renders that ability for the purpose of larger good without any personal motive. I love wind.
And coming to wind, forgot about Antika's post. Had posted an analysis that day itself, but network ditched me. She had talked about flute a wind instrument and veena a string instrument or rather it is bound.
And it gave me a beautiful insight to Ravan's and Krishna's psyche.See any instrument, the music depends on what the player wants to play. Both manipulated. Ravan manipulated with vision or rather what is seen. He used fear as his mode of control. Fear that Ravan can attack, fear that Ravan cannot be defeated. Ravan set direction to what is seen, completely ignoring what is unseen just like the strings of veena that is bound at both ends
And Krishna he set direction to wind. It is the player who decides how the wind should enter and leave the flute. He set direction not only to what is seen, but also to that is unseen. He played with feelings. And that's why when he played the flute the whole universe came to standstill. Enjoying it in absolute bliss. Because he calmed the mind, directed the feelings towards positive energy to those who loved and believed in him.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

hey good morning all.

I have a lot of questions n a lot of things to discuss here..

but first i need to retype my response to Geena which i lost the day before..

All, esp. Shruthi n Savita, will u be around for a while?

sab idhar ich hai shirley 😆 shoot ur kostins 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago

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Shirley you summed up the episode beautifully.👏

Hi Geena, sorry could not reply yesterday as ii promised. Thanks once again for appreciating my efforts.

The focus on Lakshman - Sita equation is moving to its culmination. I am intrigued now how they will show the haran. Will she regret her words to Lakshman?
Sita has been shown as a fiercely independent woman so far. She even before swayamwar told Ram what kind of a woman she is. 'Saath saath par Swadandhr'. She is the embodiment of Prakrithi which is against any kind of Bandhan. Ram n Sita are perfectly in sync because they understand each other.

i understand they are building a foundation to Sita's regrets later. But, isnt it getting too much now.. Tell me something.. if u were in a jungle with asurs all around u who may attack at any time, would u leave someone alone without any protection? And okay.. the said person may have weapons n be very strong physically, still a basic protection is important..esp. for a woman. Why does Sita have to over react every single time? And moreover, its the duty of men to protect the women in their midst, just as its the duty of women to nurture, cook for and give homely aura, n psychological strength to men.. Its not about gender inequality but rather a balance between the genders.. which was the given in treta yug. its a naked fact that women are physically weaker while men are emo
tionally weaker.. a fact even Ram acknowledges..

i liked the first time she objected to Laxman's words about having a woman with them slowing them down, etc.. i liked the growth they showed in Siya laxman equation.. but that scene looked like they were back to square one..


Even though she was capable of removing the Rekha she does not do so until Ram allows her. She wanted to show Lakshman the difference. By trying to protect her from any harm he was taking away her freewill. The Rekha was both ways. She cannot go out and no one else can come in. Lakshman understood this n said next time when he makes the Rekha she will not be forced to remain inside. He will not take away her freedom and she doesn't object to this.

Agree with this. But i want to say something else on this.. but not now.. i want to see how the kidnapping plays out first before i say anything.

I loved Lakshman's reply to her that she has a different perspective when it comes to prakriti . He used " Nazriya" to emphasize her way of thinking. It is frustrating for him because he is bound by duty to protect his brother n sister in law. Ram who is more powerful than anyone he knew doesn't create any problems with respect to his duty. But his SIL objects every time she thinks her free will is hindered. He is a warrior and thinks like a warrior. Even if they are in the forest they are in a war zone and certain measures or rules have to be followed for their own protection. He is naturally scared of the after effects of flaunting these rules.

agree


The protection both of them are talking about are completely different. Lakshman's fear will materialize when Sita haran happens. Sita will understand Lakshman completely then. Sita have always said she can protect herself. She will also prove this again and again. In Lanka she even dares the mighty Ravan to cross a blade of grass that she places between them. Laksman will understand her view during Agnipareeksha.


hmm.. i dint get the last bit about during agnipariksha


Just like Lakshman who relentlessly tries to protect Ram - Sita, we have Meghanad who doesn't accept defeat. He tries to win what his father wants by hook or crook. Hanuman is Sugreev's friend, well wisher and protector. Asur's were able to attack Sugreev by making him surrender his weapon using Roma his weakness and Hanuman saves the day by attacking their weakness. But they have succeeded in removing Hanuman from Sugreev's vicinity making Sugreev susceptible to their attack. This is in parallel with Sita haran.


yeah.. as i said m enjoying the lanka scenes esp the way ,Meghnad's character is shaping up.
@bold - true.


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Posted: 9 years ago
oye srutha tu hari ho gayi 🥳thats too fast... mujhe ek saal lag gaya 😆
congratulations...😃

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