If you need to give Agnipareeksha for your self respect give it- Janak

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daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Shruthi wonderful post...👏

And yes it was prophetic...

Am glad I didn't elaborate this scene on my thread... I knew you would 😆

For me the scene of the day was janaka's advise... Phenomenal, wasn't it? 😃

"Self-respect".

This is what the sisters will deal with in their different ways...

" agnipariksha" metaphorically also means how the sisters' are going to spend the exile period...

In one or the other way, the husbands chose their brother over their wives... Indirectly a slap on their self-respect...

But again if the daugter-in-laws were from different families, the situation would have been b/w.

But since they are from the same family it becomes a twisted situation with grey streak...

One side they have their husbands and on the other end they have their sister ... In the middle they are torn in between their sanskaars and ayodhya's customs...

As we discussed on symbolisms thread, mandavi will erupt when the water goes above head...

This was pretty clear in the scene when she tells sita about unacceptance of proposal... Her exact words were " yeh toh mithila ki pratha nahi thi"...

Sita on this confronts janaka... And he realizes his folly...

Mandvi's tone of dissatisfaction is enough to bring janaka in the state of introspection... Indirectly she had challenged mithila's tradition...

It will be very interesting to see how mandavi will challenge ayodhya's customs...

Her eruption in the absence of sita will be something substantial to watch...

It might happen that her explosion could be termed as arrogance or question the upbringing...

This is going to be the 'agnipariksha' of their upbringing...The 'agni' is going to test everyone...

And I ges that's the reason people say that its not wise that sisters marry off in the same family...

I have heard this many times... Sisters shouldn't marry in the same home...

Either the personal happiness is challenged. Or if one things personally, the bond of the sisters' weakens...

I guess this is the reason Ramayana is an exception... Facets like ekampatnivrata, sisters' bond and many things... It is somewhat perfect...

On the contrary MB is more relatable on the grounds of mistakes... Everyone having shrinked in the personal space committed mistakes and paid for the same...

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daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@manasa already given the lengthly analysis. You can check in jhanvi's thread😆

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I told her the same... Ki bhai jara aage peeche padh le 😆

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

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@vipraja whenever we are different we face questions. But it is the way we uphold our difference that matters. If we are convinced of our choices we will not falter. Only if we are doing things half mindedly we will feel bad.

@DD I saw the comment in your thread on Janaka's advice. Shruthi will take care. 😆😆

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daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Accha hua na... 😳

U wrote so beautifully... I would have failed to give an emotional angle to the same... 😆 analysis pe ata h toh technical ban jata h mere liye unlike writing short stories... 😆

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avalonhigh1234

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Posted: 9 years ago

#15

Shruthi a very concise analysis and agree with you on every point. But I have often wondered why is it always the woman who has to justify and explain her words and actions to the family or society? Why does she have to travel the extra mile to protect her self-respect? You don't generally see a man walking a similar path for his self-respect...We take so much pride on our modern values...yet we are hard pressed to find a strong character like Sita who ,when, faced with the doubts of the society as regards to her children and again faced with a King's rajdharam, choose to go back to mother earth than give in that society's dictates!

The word 'women's rights and equality ' have lost relevance in this chaotic society, haven't they?I will stop now...My daughter after reading my posts states that I am a feminist by nature...but she adds not in 'a bad way ,of course'.😆

Savita

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

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@Savitha what is a woman. She is mother. From her originates the entire life . She is knowledge, she is wealth and she is power. And if you look at all the 3 aspects there is one thing in common. Whether it is knowledge, wealth or power it can be used for good or bad.

To ensure the aspects she represents are used correctly, first she has to set the example. Not in words, but in actions. Nature or Prakriit has to show it shows equality and no partiality. Does a mother differentiate between her kids. She might have to use various ways with various kids, but that is not differentiation. She wants good for all of them.

And it is this proof everytime a woman has to give. Her values are same for everyone. If she is Gowri to Ram, she is Kali to Ravan.

If she will walk extra mile to protect the reputation of a man like Ram, she will not hesitate twice to bring a man like Ravan to dust.

If we really look at nature we see this phenomenon. Prakriti or nature's law are same for everyone. Prakriti supports you if you understand her, because she is mother.

Problem with humans is that they don't understand prakriti and keeps on demanding proof after proof from her. Otherwise how could an idiot cast views on Maa Sita's character.

And if this funda has to change mothers have to educate their sons to be accountable and wives have to ensure that their husbands are accountable. Don't say " He is a boy he will do that" or what to do men are like that.

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avalonhigh1234

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Agreed Shruthi .My point of contention is not with her setting an example ,but with the society's partial attitude which demands it from a woman .In this constant pressure to prove her self, it often results in her losing her identity, let alone her self respect. When after a long time I met some old friends of mine I was disturbed to see one or two of them had become a pale reflection of themselves, in constantly trying to conform to the rules and regulations of their husband's family...they had lost that essence which made them distinctive...

We often miss the important aspect of a woman's free will amidst all the so called rules and expectations, don't we?

Savita

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Yes Savitha. But the problem is the way Agnipareeksha is treated. People believe it is sticking to traditions and being door mat and losing one's identity is giving Agnipareeksha.

Actually it is not. It is the fight to maintain your identity even when you are attacked from all sides. To maintain your freewill , your values, your convictions, your aspirations even when demand is placed otherwise.

But to keep that, you also need a supporting partner post marriage who will understand your need to be independent.

Most women suffer because of not having their spouse not understanding and bound by traditions they don't want to leave such men also.

Because many women gave the real agnipareeksha atleast today our generation have better freedom. Because some women spoke for their rights, we can also talk about rights. And not only women we have to thank men like Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Ishwar Chandra Vidya Sagar during these times. These men also fought for women's right.

Actually women's life will become easier, if men isolate men who are not respecting woman. We can see this punishments in our epics.

But the current society gives leeway to such useless men who take advantage of women.

I had also travelled a path where I felt I was losing my identity post marriage. Trying to stick to expectations. But then finally I realized, nothing will move if I am not true to myself. And women needs to realize that. After that it was really a fight for me. To stand by my conviction

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avalonhigh1234

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Posted: 9 years ago

#19

I agree with every word of yours Shruthi.

I think most of us have gone through some sort of identity crisis after marriage at some point of our lives. When I realized it at that point I respectfully put my foot down and tried to explain my point of view. It took some time and some slippery moments before the message was accepted in the spirit it was given. It could not have happened without my husband's and to a large extent my family{from both sides}'s support.

But the society as a whole seems to be floundering in its treatment of a woman and her identity...as you said there is no isolation of those type of men who have such dismissive attitude for a woman. All we can hope is for a better time in future...for not just a select few but for each and every woman...!

Savita

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daydreamers

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Posted: 9 years ago

#20

Shruthi, savita am enjoying this discussion...😃. Its my favorite topic 😛 not because of feminism... I find feminism to be taken in a wrong direction...

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