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Posted: 9 years ago
@Shruthi di

What an amazing post by u , as usual thought provoking and so much relatable.. Loved it 👏

I always loved the third law and related it with philosophy, but never thought that law of inertia and F=dP/dt can be used describe suffering so well!!
Never got more clarity about the concept of suffering before, I guess physics is the best way to make me understand philosophy or mytho..

So any change for the good should be welcomed or else u get to experience an external force from the nature ... And suffering is not to be treated as some big problem but as a reality check to change your ways for the good !!

Thank u so much di for this beautiful post..
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Posted: 9 years ago
@aditi third law is easy to connect. Anyone who wants to connect mythology to science will definitely reach the third law, but when I reached the third law I wanted to know how the other 2 laws are connected. If 3rd is connected, obviously 1st and 2 has to be connected.
And it is MB that helped me to make this connection. Once dynamics done, now I am trying with optics, energy and frequency, then also maths.
Because every other science is the derivative of these 2 subjects. We need physics and maths everywhere.
Actually DD, you and all are helping me in this journey because when we discuss new points emerge in this direction. I am happy to know there are so many like minded people.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@DD I am very happy at 22 years you got this wisdom. Because that wisdom will help us to see every situation in a positive light. And I would say 20's are the right time to get those wisdom, because you are going to spread your wings. And if you have the right wisdom you will reach greater heights. I had taken certain actions, without understanding the logic at your age. Because as you said no one understood me or my decisions. Even I didn't. But a situation came in my life where I had to make a choice. Choice for which I needed guidance, a kind of choice which I couldn't go with majority view, but needed absolute surety I am taking the right decision or not. And I turned to the only person whom I could trust completely to help me out in the situation. Lord Krishna. I still remember standing in front of Lord Krishna's photo and crying, asking him to show me the way, as I am tired fighting and I can t fight anymore. That was 2012.
And yes he showed me the way. Incidentally my journey in IF also started in 2012 analyzing a show DABH. As I wrote problems popped up in front of me and I went on correcting. And in 2013 when SP MB started and Krishna started talking I felt it was as if he was answering me. My prayer. As the larger connections evolved slowly but surely. Today 2016 I write, I draw parallels it is because of the knowledge my journey had taught me. The mistakes I had corrected. And yes he absolutely proved to me my choice was right and liberating. And when I watch SKR it feels as if a journey is reaching the culmination.


Shruthi am sorry am replying this late... I didn't knew what to say.. I still don't know what to type.. But best with my incoherence...

You know am pretty much petrified of the words 'wisdom' and 'decision'.

I had a tough childhood...I was timid,introvert,insecure and what not... I always felt I lacked something as a person. When I looked around I found kids of my age so exuberant, full of life... I wish the circumstances were better. Despite adversities my dad made it a point to educate me in a top school... I made it to the school.. Years passed. I was a good student... The board exams came and I was diagnosed with a typical orthopedic condition of hand which wouldn't allow me to write... My vein was swollen it would pain and I couldn't write properly. In this whole scene I lost my handwriting... It wasn't legible.. But again I had to go thru this test.. Where everyone was expecting me to get 95% I landed on 85%. It hurted a lot... As if someone had pierced a knife in my heart.. I didn't flinch.. Instead I said 'Matti daalo', but that was the day I lost faith in hard work and luck... I still believed slightly in hardwork as that was what had gotten me those 85%. I lost faith in luck, God, prayers and destiny...
In 12th again during the boards my concern was my writing... What to do? As my hand's fatigue was not over. I found a way- write with left. And I did that within 15 days... Its been 4.5 yrs that I write with left...

Again a decision point came.. Which course to take? Engg was always the ultimate option... Though I was also good with biology... I had made it to a clg in pune.. My dad refused to pay a heavy fee as it was an autonomous institute. I tried to convince that I would take loan. But still things didn't work out and I had to settle, rather compromise... I didn't like the atmosphere here... I tried to find happiness but no use... I didn't enjoy clg, not even lectures... An year passed by, there was some function and the ppl were hunting for a person who would give a speech.. They called me.. I went.. I didn't knew if I could speak.. I was good in writing but had never anchored or spoke on stage.. It went well and I anchored subsequent events for 2 yrs. I had got an opportunity outside also. That also went well...

A tragedy once again knocked at my door and I lost one year... I was home when I was supposed to be in the last year...

But again I began something that I thot I never would.. I started a blog.. I joined theatre ( which I left in 1.5 months as am not fluent with Marathi even if its my mother tongue). I did a photoshoot... In short I found solace that I can do these things if I wish to, if I try.. My life doesnt end if I fail at one thing...

Again 2015-16 is my last yr of clg.. This was a turbulent year... I got opportunities for pg but I lost them coz of my health... Still am unaffected... Not because it didn't sadden me, because from my past, I know one thing, I'll find a way out... That had been writing with left or taking up different activities...

The result of all the struggles I endured after 12th is that I have lost interest in my field.. I see my dad pestering me to apply here, go there, visit the site.. I don't feel like...

I believe while doing smthn, u may either lose interest or develop interest.. My case is divided.. I lost interest in what I was doing and developed an interest in what I took later...

As I said I have kept an opportunity of pg on hold with family's support I again find myself on the brink of taking a decision...

I don't know what shall I decide... Its unpredictable... What if tomorrow I fall apart once again?

When I c around I find ppl running a race.. And am not a race person at all... I find it funny when ppl run for something they want to attain... On the contrary, I don't run, I simply sit and find different ways that can help me 😆. This may sound wisdom philosophically but practically what should I earn and eat? 😆

So am that person who's torn in between practical and philosophical... I might have earned wisdom through my trials but I still am clueless what will I do...

And gaining wisdom has been possible as I watched my father work relentlessly and endlessly with justice... My family staunchly believes in karma.. They have brought me and my brother this way..we'll always help ppl, do good.. But u know nobody helps us when we need the most... I can't even lie to anyone... A small mistake and am guilt stricken...

And I believe that the best teacher you can ever have is yourself... Make yourself learn... That's the only way one can I get wisdom...


I have penned it so long, coz I wanna say carve a path for urself.. Find a way in the tym of adversities... If one thing doesn't work, make other things work... You'll never find me praying or going to temples with my problems ( again its a personal choice. Of one finds solace he/she should go). I rather search it inside me and make a new way with a new opportunity.. If u c my present field of study and my ways are not at all connected.. And this is where ppl ridicule me always... They find it insane...

Am quite this jumpy person... U'll find me one day here and the other day there...

"Decision" and "wisdom" are two tough things for me...
Maybe wisdom hasn't taught me what to do... It has definitely taught me what not to do...

I guess I find this in SKR... Every scene replete with messages and hints... And you may never know if I stick to this thread till the end of the show ( am mostly on off on other forums. Once I lose interest I walk away) , I may think of a pg course in mythology...

So again I have both sides - practical and philosophical in watching SKR...

P.S- I don't know why I posted so long... I ges got carried away... 😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
@aditi do you realize you have just stated Newton's third law of motion, the 3 laws on which the entire dynamics of physical science rests.
Now DD has told you about karma. But before coming to 3rd law of motion, there are first 2 laws. Yes 3rd is easy to understand, but 1st and second will help you to cleanse out of bad karma
1st law- Every object continues to be in a state of uniform motion unless acted upon by an external force. Physical science treats this as inertia.
Now coming from a spiritual view point what is inertia - Refusal to face change. You just love to do routine things. It is to wake you up from inertia and do something fruitful the suffering happen. If you act positively to first suffering understanding the cause of it, you will come out of it easily. But if you don't heed and continues to be in inertia, next blow comes. So nature hits you with blows to bring you out of inertia. If you are getting harder blows understand you still have inertia for change. Change the way you think, change the way you act. Unless you do that suffering wont stop. Because nature doesn't like inertia. How can it like. You are static only because of theory of relativity or the point of reference you use at that point. Otherwise we are all standing on top of a planet that moves every second and changes direction every 12 hrs as it follows an elliptical path. Then how you who is living in this planet can only move straight and not change.
2nd law- The vector sum of the forces F on an object is equal to the mass m of that object multiplied by the acceleration vector a of the object: F = ma.
Force= mass*acceleration. Again it stands with my explanation. The greater is your inertia, the force needed to create the required momentum in the expected direction is more. Hence the rate of suffering increases. Suffering is the force that is trying to shake you out of your slumber and smell the coffee. Not to lament , cry and go into depression. It's a time to ask why it is happening, what can I do to correct it. This simple question will open the path of correction.
Now the last law every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Understand that even not doing anything is a choice and is an action. So if you sit and lament more suffering will come. If you don't analyze the problem correctly issue will aggravate. You can run from pillar to post , temple to temple, astrologer to astrologer for solving your problems. But no God or gem can help you, unless you come out of your inertia and take affirmative action.
I am not sure of past live karma. But what I know is that, suffering is an indication to take positive affirmative action or change course for a better outcome.
That's what a rational mind in me has been able to connect with respect to Newton's law of motion

Not a single word that I disagree...
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Posted: 9 years ago

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Aditi trust me science and mythology are related... Its just how u c them... And yes even am a science student😆I understand ur feelings. In fact I always wanted to post analysis on SKR from the beginning. But as you know mythology is a dangerous territory on blogs and forums😆. So I held back till I came across shruthi's thread and one fine day I was so overwhelmed that I posted a series of symbolisms on her thread and she suggested me to open a thread...😆

As I mostly post from phone. Yday was same. I was going to put newton's laws but IF ditches me many times and I have to type again and again😆😡. Thats the sole reason I didn't put it. I thot let's leave that to others😆sab kuch likhne me bhi maza nahi h na... Kuch rakhte h side me.. Even about previous episode I haven't pointed a crucial dialogue and it didn't mention it.. Wanna c if it is taken anywhere. And I secretly wish no one points it ( see the secret is out😉😆)

And relating to philosophy and logic. I have seen many ppl proclaiming that they don't believe in philosophy.. I find it amusing... Human mind is the most complex machine which doesn't only reside on logic but needs philosophy to give a moral support... Psychology not only sees logic. If u ever go to a psychiatrist or counsellor they'll always hear you out... They hear your story... They see what affected you so much... What incident invoke which feeling in you... So its all related... In a shell emotional+practical surfaces what is philosophical...

Cmn to the fan club, tu bol kab shuru karu?😆

Am honored that you are my fan😳I can relate to you as I rarely admire things or posts or people superficially. If I find depth and meaning you shall find an admirer in me😆

Aur dusra actor kon?😛barun?😆

Cmn to karma theory, mast tha na story...😳actually I never gave much importance to whole thing till my mumma told me about it...

One should do good deed with choice not for fear of facing a troublesome life or next birth...😉



Yes I know , mytho is kinda dangerous sub to write analysis as people have their sentiments attached to it and u can't go wrong.. But I like to see things from a writer's POV too , like now I am loving SKR and the creative are doing an amazing job 😃
I am glad that Shruthi di asked u to open a thread 😉
I have seen ur analysis many times on her thread but its good to see all ur posts in a single thread..

Yeah IF sometimes doesn't let u post 😡
So u missed an imp point in ur previous post , I have not read it yet, so I can't point out anything 😆
Haan kuch points hamare liye bhi sochne ke liye chod dena 😆

Yes philosophy and science are inter related... As u have explained so well , nothing for me to add more..

Heehee u liked my post , I couldn't have got a better compliment than this 😳

Fan club kabhi bhi shuru karo bas members list mein mera naam first mein rakhna😛

Dusra kyun 😲 pahla vala pasand nai aaya kya 😆
So u are Barun fan hmmm..hmmm.. 😉
No, not him yaar , its Karanveer... Still not as crazy for him as I am for Ashu 😳😛
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@DD thanks for penning down your struggles. I will tell you the difference between wisdom and practicality as I understand it.
Wisdom is your inner knowledge and practicality is the application of that knowledge at the right time. And how do you know how to apply the knowledge.
For me the easiest way was to understand Arjun-Krishna relation. It was that of sakha bhav or that of friendship. That choice Krishna gave to Arjuna always echoes in me. On one side my power is there, other side I am there, but I will not take weapon. What do you want Arjuna. Arjuna chooses Krishna and Krishna holds the direction.
Keep myself in Arjuna's place and treat Krishna as my best friend. Whenever in conflicts ask the direction. The direction will come, but you will not know what the result might be. But you will realize action in that direction will give you more satisfaction as a person. You act in the direction and after sometime you walk in the direction, you will see the patterns, you will see the action-reaction theory playing in front of you.
You will fight the war. But when you need the most the defense will come in front of you. You will learn the art of making your own defense. In a nutshell it is your own inner voice, but a photo helps you to have a physical presence as a human needs emotional support.
If I understand correct first we need to understand Arjun-Krishna as that is the first step to get knowledge, second Hanuman-Rama because that shows the actions of a sevak with right knowledge, then Prahlad- Narasimha shows bhakti by creation. I have travelled a lot in Arjuna-Krishna relation, now in SKR eagerly waiting for Hanuman-Ram.
Gyan se karm, karm se bhakti. With right knowledge right actions, through right actions real Bhakti.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi


@aditi third law is easy to connect. Anyone who wants to connect mythology to science will definitely reach the third law, but when I reached the third law I wanted to know how the other 2 laws are connected. If 3rd is connected, obviously 1st and 2 has to be connected.

And it is MB that helped me to make this connection. Once dynamics done, now I am trying with optics, energy and frequency, then also maths.
Because every other science is the derivative of these 2 subjects. We need physics and maths everywhere.
Actually DD, you and all are helping me in this journey because when we discuss new points emerge in this direction. I am happy to know there are so many like minded people.



I had actually not seen MB with so much of depth, I guess I had not met you that time may be that's why..
Even my understanding of SKR is partially because of your beautiful analysis...
It's good to meet you here and get a good understanding of mytho...
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@aditi I was also not writing in MB forum because I was busy with DABH forum at that time. Writing daily analysis, OS and a very lengthy FF. Had time for nothing else. Mostly at a time I write in 1 forum or max 2 forums. But with a show like SKR it is very difficult to manage another forum regularly. That's the level of attention this show needs.
I am seeing a new promo Dahleez in SP. Looks like my area, my forte. Leading lady a lawyer and a finite series. Don't know how I will write. But I am sure from the looks of it, the show has lot to analyze and lot to write.
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@DD thanks for penning down your struggles. I will tell you the difference between wisdom and practicality as I understand it.

Wisdom is your inner knowledge and practicality is the application of that knowledge at the right time. And how do you know how to apply the knowledge.
For me the easiest way was to understand Arjun-Krishna relation. It was that of sakha bhav or that of friendship. That choice Krishna gave to Arjuna always echoes in me. On one side my power is there, other side I am there, but I will not take weapon. What do you want Arjuna. Arjuna chooses Krishna and Krishna holds the direction.
Keep myself in Arjuna's place and treat Krishna as my best friend. Whenever in conflicts ask the direction. The direction will come, but you will not know what the result might be. But you will realize action in that direction will give you more satisfaction as a person. You act in the direction and after sometime you walk in the direction, you will see the patterns, you will see the action-reaction theory playing in front of you.
You will fight the war. But when you need the most the defense will come in front of you. You will learn the art of making your own defense. In a nutshell it is your own inner voice, but a photo helps you to have a physical presence as a human needs emotional support.
If I understand correct first we need to understand Arjun-Krishna as that is the first step to get knowledge, second Hanuman-Rama because that shows the actions of a sevak with right knowledge, then Prahlad- Narasimha shows bhakti by creation. I have travelled a lot in Arjuna-Krishna relation, now in SKR eagerly waiting for Hanuman-Ram.
Gyan se karm, karm se bhakti. With right knowledge right actions, through right actions real Bhakti.


Shruthi... You penned down my thots re 😳. The problem with me is if am in a loop I need to vent it out... Thats what I did with the post above 😆. Bas shoot out...

I agree with you... Every single point... In fact I had watched MB much later when bhagwadgita started... So I pretty much understand what you want to say...

Coming to the direction part... I don't know... I though have an excellent intuition... 😆 I can almost read ppl's intentions before they do anything 😆.

You know am actually in search of that direction...

And that's why I penned down what ways I took up in adversities... I don't have this habit of sitting and crying...I'll either make it work or find a different work where I can put my knowledge into... 😆

I have this gut feeling, that maybe my unending questions will end once I get to Mumbai...

Coz am on a red alert of indecisive mode... 🤣 if only somewhere somehow I can help myself... 😛
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@aditi I was also not writing in MB forum because I was busy with DABH forum at that time. Writing daily analysis, OS and a very lengthy FF. Had time for nothing else. Mostly at a time I write in 1 forum or max 2 forums. But with a show like SKR it is very difficult to manage another forum regularly. That's the level of attention this show needs.

I am seeing a new promo Dahleez in SP. Looks like my area, my forte. Leading lady a lawyer and a finite series. Don't know how I will write. But I am sure from the looks of it, the show has lot to analyze and lot to write.



Oh u didn't write in that forum, ohh okay..

Yes I saw the promo, looks interesting but don't know if I can watch that show or not as I want to watch only one show at a time ...
But if u start writing for that show , please don't stop to write here... I will not understand anything in skr without ur analysis and I think many are here like me ...

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