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Arshics

@Arshics

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Posted: 9 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav

yes actually u know those kings r like maximum men of today's world see full of arrogance but empty from inside think woman as property..
Ram has so much paitence n so calm not even move when all kings start blabbering n finally with calm attitude explain n I loved it..
he is Purushottam ...
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So true, that is one guna we need to learn from him - to respond calmly and logically and not to react emotionally !

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fatssrilanka

@fatssrilanka

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Posted: 9 years ago

#12

Arshi, beautiful post. Loved when Ram said a woman is not a property. She too is human just like a man. And she too has feelings.

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 9 years ago

#13

@Arshics,

While I agree with what you said, I also feel like there's a thin line between contextualizing the epic for today's generation, and leaving the magic of the original intact. I feel like the original has plenty of good lessons in itself, that not much needs to be changed. This show is continuously changing the facts that are already beautifully written in the epic. That's why people like me cannot connect with this 21st century Ram.

I feel like TRPs of this show could be so much higher if the CVs make amends and try to grab the interest of viewers like me, who treasure the original epic over a 21st century adaptation. This show is so much better than its competitors, which are nothing but trashy saas-bahu soaps that become more regressive by the day. Its TRPs should be above 3.0, but that'll only happen if CVs compromise between both sets of mytho audience.

I feel like there are two sets of mytho audience, one who welcome modern changes to the epic, and one who treasure the original. A compromise can be made with the CVs sticking to original story most of the time, but giving messages that'll please the modern audience at the same time. I feel like right now, CVs are more geared towards the modern audience, which is why TRPs are staying in the 2 range when they could be so much higher. Seriously, this show is loads better than its competing saas-bahu soaps! Even with all its distortions, I prefer to see this show than the ones that come during the same time slot.

As a viewer who sees the full potential of this show, I would really like it to improve in terms of content. I would like to see it grab the interest of traditional mytho viewers along with the modern ones. I would like to see Ram as Maryada Purushotham through his actions, and not through giving feminist speeches which I cannot relate to, in terms of that era. Instead of Ram making such a speech during the swayamvar, that truly takes away from the divinity of the moment, at least for me, I'd rather see Ram giving equal importance to Sita through is actions. Why not have scenes post-marriage between them in which Ram gives Sita equal importance, instead of giving him boring speeches which don't seem Ram-like at all?

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Uma

@adi2512

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Posted: 9 years ago

#14

A very meaningful episode , today, per me.

Em phasing different aspects of a marriage, right from a woman's will to chose her Jeevan sathi., to the equality that is required in a marriage., and the deeper meaning to a swayamvar, even it is bound by the rules of a competition.

I am liking this show, especially for such points that are being highlighted from the 'main' events of Sita - Rama's story.,

If this just had to be another rendition of the story as how it has happened, it would not have been any different, there were quite a few earlier.

But this show, from the beginning , the approach had been different, where it is an analytical and logical approach behind actions of the main characters.

Sure, this is an interpretation of the respective writers, but what's wrong in looking at their perspective, when especially, there is something to ponder and learn , especially to an younger generation, who can view the epic story with the issues they can relate to in this time and era, and where they are given the essence in a nutshell ?

After all, the epics are timeless., their teachings do not conform to any particular era and yug, nor their deeper meanings are bound by the era's they happened.

Their teachings can be moulded to any time period., be it then, now , 100 years or centuries later.

That is how they are unique and great., because all that they teach is the righteous way of living / existence.

If a show is making a small attempt to bring forth the learning that is hidden in the epic., I feel, it is app laudable.

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Uma

@adi2512

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Posted: 9 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: Arshics

Well, as we all know this Ramayana is an adaptation of the original and has been contextualised for today's generation. And so to emphasise and explain the meaning of swayamvar was in that sense required.

Secondly, Rama was making a comment on the kings, who were looking at it as a conquest, and a contest and Sita as a prize and decided to make it into a test of might - which the condition of the swayamvar never was!

It was to find a man who would match Sita in gunas, and not to hand her over to the mightiest

So to remind the kings of the true essence of swayamvar, and through them to talk to us about the importance of equality was necessary

I think here we have to look at Rama himself as symbolic - a prateek of what's right, an expression of what righteous and since this edition of Ramayana is made for this generation, we will have Rama talk about issues that are relevant to society of today!

Every version of Ramayana that is written is always using Rama as a prateek of maryada purshottam for that age and time

@ Bold - So True !

From the beginning, the show for me, is not about portraying Rama and Sita as Divine., BUT WHY they are Divine.

The Values they teach, follow and uphold - shown as per some real events , some events created via few liberties.,

So, what happened till now, Rama, Sia born, brought up, became learned, and are about to get married.

The Basic plot remained same, right ? and no where, their ethics have been compromised. But only we could learn much more from the events that transpired in their lives till now.

The show sure is not an alternate to the original epic., but sure is a supplement, a much educative one at that.

Edited by adi2512 - 9 years ago

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Arshics

@Arshics

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Posted: 9 years ago

#16

Janaki, Adi,

I agree with you Janaki, if somehow the look and feel could have been kept more authentic, I would've liked it, but the colours, makeup and costumes seem modern!

But other than that, I am loving it, and agree with Adi's views on the rational perspective taken.

You know when I was growing up, I never appreciated Rama and Sita so much, because i just could not relate to them. I was a rebel and my idols had to be rebels too.. I found natkhat Krishna far more fascinating than Rama ! Sita for me was too docile!

It's only now, marriage and 2 daughters later, I am beginning to appreciate the difficulty of being Rama and Sita! But when I narrate these stories to my girls, I see a similar scepticism in them.

So, I am loving this adaptation, and this rationalist Rama, who puts into prperspective situation and actions, is easier to relate to, and to look upto and learn values of life from.

As I said, to me Rama himself is symbolic and now when I see Ramayana with my girls, I am able to explain the story in their language, thanks to this 'modernisation'.

The story is partly for us, but it is majorly for those who don't know much about it, and has been written to appeal to them, we are already Bhakts, the new generation will relate to this Rama better!

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Frosty_Moon

@Frosty_Moon

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Posted: 9 years ago

#17

Beautiful post dear
Love the way ram says that the breaking of dhanush represents end of competition and Sita is not a thing who Winner will show as his victory symbol..she.is Hunan being..her choice matters...it's her decision to accept or reject winner for considering her husband...
Then Siya says he proves he is maryadapurshotam ram by his actions, by respecting women, her choice ...she is lucky to have him as partner..Superb episode..

Edited by eternity_of_luv - 9 years ago

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 9 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Arshics
Janaki, Adi,
I agree with you Janaki, if somehow the look and feel could have been kept more authentic, I would've liked it, but the colours, makeup and costumes seem modern!

But other than that, I am loving it, and agree with Adi's views on the rational perspective taken.

You know when I was growing up, I never appreciated Rama and Sita so much, because i just could not relate to them. I was a rebel and my idols had to be rebels too.. I found natkhat Krishna far more fascinating than Rama ! Sita for me was too docile!

It's only now, marriage and 2 daughters later, I am beginning to appreciate the difficulty of being Rama and Sita! But when I narrate these stories to my girls, I see a similar scepticism in them.

So, I am loving this adaptation, and this rationalist Rama, who puts into prperspective situation and actions, is easier to relate to, and to look upto and learn values of life from.

As I said, to me Rama himself is symbolic and now when I see Ramayana with my girls, I am able to explain the story in their language, thanks to this 'modernisation'.

The story is partly for us, but it is majorly for those who don't know much about it, and has been written to appeal to them, we are already Bhakts, the new generation will relate to this Rama better!

But is it right to change the characters so new generation can "relate" to them?

More importantly, should we even relate to God? God is not supposed to be related to. He is supposed to be an ideal, an example of someone we should follow. To relate to him would be to bring him down to our level, and as humans we all are too imperfect, especially in today's world where love, relationships, everything is no longer respected. Today's world is selfish and takes advantage of each other, but back in that era, people strove to help each other out, to form loving relationships with each other. Ram and Sita are so special because they are larger than life. Their every action was divine and ideal.

We should look up to them, not relate with thatm.

That is why I do not agree with the current generation's obsession with relating to characters, even when it comes to Gods and God's incarnations. We shouldn't relate with them, because when we relate with them, we do not look up to them, and when we do not look up to them, we don't improve ourselves and our behavior.

Our goal should not be to acceot our own faults. It should be to change them, to improve them, and that's why epics like Ramayan and Mahabharat are so important.

Don't relate with God, look up to him. That's my firm belief and I will always vouch for it.

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subiaman

@subiaman

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Posted: 9 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: adi2512

@ Bold - So True !

From the beginning, the show for me, is not about portraying Rama and Sita as Divine., BUT WHY they are Divine.

The Values they teach, follow and uphold - shown as per some real events , some events created via few liberties.,

So, what happened till now, Rama, Sia born, brought up, became learned, and are about to get married.

The Basic plot remained same, right ? and no where, their ethics have been compromised. But only we could learn much more from the events that transpired in their lives till now.

The show sure is not an alternate to the original epic., but sure is a supplement, a much educative one at that.

Bold- agree with both of you! I am loving this Ramayana and I watch it with my 8 year old daughter. I really like the way they are portraying Ram and Sita. For our generation, we had other versions which we could relate to easily. But its not fair to compare them. With time, interpretation and out look both changes. It is important for our younger generation to understand our values and culture. They cannot relate to things we could few years back. As long as the main story and its characters remain intact, I am fine with it.

As for some people from our generation, who loved the earlier versions and cannot seem to like this one, why don't they just "not watch this one" and keep reliving the magic of the older ones. That's what I would do!!!!!

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Vinny

@peachpie

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Posted: 9 years ago

#20

But unke Bhakt parshurama ji Abhi krodhit hain
Kaise manayenge Shri Rama parshurama ji ko
Janane ke liye dekhiyega zAroor, Kal Shaam 8 baje...

Beautiful saar of swayamvar. End if the post...on a light note..he he

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