Siya ke raam - collateral damage

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Arshics

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Posted: 9 years ago

Collateral damage is a general term for unintentional deaths, injuries, or other damage inflicted incidentally on an unintended target.

Once again, the show had a beautiful message underlying

And all the interconnections beautifully pointed in one direction

Dashratha - for him it's all about the kul ki kirti, the name and fame of his family are uppermost

Scarcely have his sons returned from battling asuras, that his ambition gets the better of him, and he announces the ashwamedha yagya

Guru Vashihstha notices Rama's concern, but Dashratha can't

As a King his glory becomes more important and his sons are means to achieve that.

For kekeyi too, it's her feelings and loss of trust that are more important than feelings of Bharat and Rama.

She professes to love Rama yet disowns any responsibility of the impact of her zidd on Rama.

For her, in the quest of her ambition, Rama is just collateral damage.

But for Rama, the kind hearted gentle soul, even the life of a horse is valueable and not to be hurt. To consider horse as collateral damage in the search for supremacy hurts the sentiments of Rama

When guruji tries to give a half hearted explanation of how sacrifice of the horse is symbolic of killing of ego, that may have come with the victory, Rama blows the logic

And we got the beautiful message from Rama - this ritual to kill the abhiman ,reeks of abhiman that we humans can take the life of any other animal.

How will Rama save the horse? We shall learn tomorrow

For today, take care of life around you, be it any form...

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Posted: 9 years ago

Beautiful, analysis, Arshi.

Very curious, how they are going to end this 'dharm sankat'.

And what would be the Sita's role in it.

I feel, they are trying to bring forth a beautiful symbolism - Rama , Lord Vishnu's avatar is thinking like a preserver / protector , and Sita - Goddess Lakshmi's avatar, is like dispenser of sustenance ( if we go per the promo, where she is shown feeding the horse ) ⭐️

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Arijit

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Posted: 9 years ago

@adi, i think that must be it, in precap, ram thinks that there should be someone who would see the horse as a living being, not animal, and there, at that point, sita was shown as she stoped the horse to feed and water it. goddess lakshmi,some times she is misunderstood as the goddess of welth, but no, that's only one of her aspect, dhanalakshmi. there also dhanyalakshmi, provider of grains. @arshi, thanks for providing the new perception about the collateral damege.

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Arshics

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: adi2512
Beautiful, analysis, Arshi.
Very curious, how they are going to end this 'dharm sankat'.

And what would be the Sita's role in it.

I feel, they are trying to bring forth a beautiful symbolism - Rama , Lord Vishnu's avatar is thinking like a preserver / protector , and Sita - Goddess Lakshmi's avatar, is like dispenser of sustenance ( if we go per the promo, where she is shown feeding the horse ) ⭐️

So well said, the jodi of Rama Sita, the protector and the nurturer - I think the show will find a beautiful way out.

Remember it's treta yug we are talking about, where the sanctity of rituals was absolute, so Rama on his own cannot bend the right way of doing the yagya to suit his sensibilities,

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Arshics

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007
@adi, i think that must be it, in precap, ram thinks that there should be someone who would see the horse as a living being, not animal, and there, at that point, sita was shown as she stoped the horse to feed and water it. goddess lakshmi,some times she is misunderstood as the goddess of welth, but no, that's only one of her aspect, dhanalakshmi. there also dhanyalakshmi, provider of grains. @arshi, thanks for providing the new perception about the collateral damege.

Arijit, beautifully explained the significance of goddess Lakshmi. If anyone stops the Ashwa it's supposed to be a challenge to the king whose ashwa it is. But here , what if Sita stops it in love - to feed the tired creature?

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

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Ramyalaxmi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@Arshi: Beautiful analysis. The episode left behind raising many questions once again which we actually failed to address for various reasons. I am waiting for the explanation of sacrifice from guru vasishta to know it matches my view.
When we look from an external layer, the sacrifice is to please god but for me the actual sense is when u prove yourself ready to do any extreme thing for god. No god asked for animal sacrifice, but in earlier times, people sacrificed the animal which they owned and took care of like a pet unlike nowadays customs. It shows the utmost thiyag. For me the good eg is the self-sacrifice of Iravan before MB war (there is contradictory story reg. Iravan).

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Arshics

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Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi
@Arshi: Beautiful analysis. The episode left behind raising many questions once again which we actually failed to address for various reasons. I am waiting for the explanation of sacrifice from guru vasishta to know it matches my view.
When we look from an external layer, the sacrifice is to please god but for me the actual sense is when u prove yourself ready to do any extreme thing for god. No god asked for animal sacrifice, but in earlier times, people sacrificed the animal which they owned and took care of like a pet unlike nowadays customs. It shows the utmost thiyag. For me the good eg is the self-sacrifice of Iravan before MB war (there is contradictory story reg. Iravan).

Ramya may I put my contrary view? Do the harshness on yourself not on the animal. So vrat or walking up a mountain or rolling down are where I show my faith through putting myself through difficulty.

But why torture another creature for showing my faith

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Ramyalaxmi

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshics

Ramya may I put my contrary view? Do the harshness on yourself not on the animal. So vrat or walking up a mountain or rolling down are where I show my faith through putting myself through difficulty.

But why torture another creature for showing my faith

Yes, that is where the people approach varies. I know many rituals of murugan/karthikeyan devotees, most of the customs are self-harming. I am not supporting the sacrifice of animals but I am finding the reason for their belief. What I mean is, the rituals actually having meaning but whether its right or wrong depends on dharma path.

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Posted: 9 years ago

@Arshics beautiful title. Collateral damage. See the thing is adharma always take the way out telling I didn't intend this. But when dharma uses the same method, tells what is happening to adharma is collateral damage can adharma take it.

Yes horse is collateral damage to show the king the prosperity and his power. But when the collateral damage becomes his son, why Dasrath unable to take it.

For Kaikeyi the relation of bharat and ram can be collateral damage to win against dasrath, but when her relation with bharat becomes collateral damage will she be able to take it.

Shanta was the collateral damage for getting sons. The women of Ayodhya were again collateral damage for getting sons.

The real reason collateral damage happens is because without understanding why certain things are being done, you do it. Because you believe this is the way you have to prove yourself in front of the society. To show of your wealth and power, you ignore lupt saraswati, the antarvahini without questioning the motives behind your actions.

Gandhari cursed Krishna because she couldn't take the collateral damage of the death of 100 sons, the real reason for which was the adharma done by them. She could see the adharma done by Krishna. But couldn't see the adarma done by her sons by dragging the kul vadhu of her family to court, surrounding and killing a 16 year old.

So one thing we have to be sure. Question your motives before doing any action. Because if your motive is not on the path of dharma, the collateral damage will not only be for others, it will also be for you. You have to be prepared to take the collateral damage.