Adultery vs rape - Page 3

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

This reply is wrong on so many levels. No, cheating is not a form of objectification, neither can cheating be even considered on the same level as rape.

Rape is a crime because it forces a woman to engage in the most personal act--sex--- without her consent. That is the most extreme form of violation.

Cheating, on, the other hand, is nothing like that. it's not like people cheat on their wives/husbands just because they are bored. People cheat because they are in an unhappy marriage, maybe even in an abusive one. It has nothing to do with objectification. Adultery is a VERY VERY complex and delicate issue, you cannot just generalize it this way.

It is an extremely shallow understanding of adultery as a whole, like this post, which are leading to these shocking comparisons between cheating and a heinous crime like rape. 👎🏼

Originally posted by: yurimehta11

First clear your illusion that people didn't cheat because they are bored. People do cheat because of bordom and there is many examples around if you look for. Sometimes men extract everything from his wife tbat there is nothing left so he chooses a new woman for further adventure. If you look closely people engaged, married, bored and divorced. Then indulge in several affairs and again marriage and on.

May be I am wrong but explain me why abuse and crime against women is highest in devloped countries which are open to individualism. Why women is more safe in conservative society. One's happiness matter the most that is core idea of both adultery and rape.A rapist wants his desire to be fulfilled at any cost so does adulter. Most prestigious people raped and did adultery too because their pleasure matter the most.

In both people doesn't care about the other party.

I am not talking about which come under crime and sin according to law because marital rape isn't crime in many country so it is right.

No, it violet the victim whether she is wife or stranger. I am talking about basic thought process of accused not the victim. If you read their psychology in depth you got my point. I am not saying both are same but ideology is same. Light version is adultery extreme version is rape.

Lets agree to disagree.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Okay, let's leave the question of trauma behind. Let's assume for a moment that there's NO TRAUMA INVOLVED at all/

But EVEN THEN rape is a crime while adultery is not, because the ACT of raping is a crime.

While even if a adultery victim commits suicide, the ACT of cheating cannot be called a crime equal to rape.

Originally posted by: yurimehta11

I didn't want to argue further but want to ask you something marital rape is not a crime so it is okay to rape your wife.I think your understanding for crime and law is quite immature.

crime or offence (or criminal offence) is an act harmful not only to some individual but also to a community, society or the state ("a public wrong"). Such acts are forbidden and punishable by law.[1][4]

Its job of law to protect innocent people. Laws changed, abolished according to time thats why article 377 amended recently. Just because something isn't crime give it green flag.

I don't know what is the base of your opinion but my opinion formed on the basis of daily meetings with such victims and their abusers.

They never feel guilty for rape or adultery it is always the fault of victim.

Girl, rape is heinous but adultery isn't trivial both are devasting for the girl. I hope some of you have witness the pain of a PTSD patient, women fell in depression because rejection of their husband, the anxiety, the worthlessness. Society in general never understand mental disorder take it lightly that's why many teenager, women commit suicide because they can't take it anymore.

I REQUEST ALL OF YOU WITH FOLDED HANDS PLEASE STOP TAKING TRAUMA AND MENTAL DISEASE LIGHTLY. WITHOUT HELP OF SOCIETY A DOCTOR CAN'T SAVE THEM.

I am sorry if I hurt you but sometimes I carried away with emotions.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Please provide statistics for the bold underlined.

And please, saying things like 'women are more safe in conservative society' is highly dangerous as it undermines the freedom of women. Take the example of Saudi Arabia. it's not that rapes are less there, its just that nobody reports rapes because its the victim who gets lashed. Did you know that? I guess not.

And like I said, people don't cheat ONLY because of boredom. Please read my post again. People cheat because of various reasons not just because of boredom. That's why I called it a complex issue. Sometimes people also cheat because of abusive partner. You cannot generalize.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/countries-with-the-most-rape-cases/articleshow/63897729.cms

Originally posted by: yurimehta11

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/countries-with-the-most-rape-cases/articleshow/63897729.cms

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Rape itself is a crime. So rape of any kind is a crime even if the law of a particular country does not punish it.

And I never mentioned the law here, so don't know where that came from.

And again, cheating is devastating, but that doesn't mean that sleeping with another person should be viewed in the same way as rape. Let me tell you again: forcing someone too have sex is a vile act.

Cheating has devastating effects, but the act is nowhere as vile as rape. Non-consensual sex is inhuman. Cheating is disgusting but not inhuman like rape.

There are a lot of things which lead people to have depression. Even overly strict parents can cause people to commit suicide and have depression. People commit suicide because their teacher humiliated them in front of the class. people commit suicide because their parents refused to let them follow their dreams or marry someone of their choice. Does that mean that being strict is also the same as rape?

You see where the flaw in your logic is?

Suicide because humiliation,not fulfilling their dreams, not allowed to marry someone is act of impulse not depression.Drepression is way more complicated than that. Unfortunately people doesn't understand to differentiate between blues, gloomy mood, impulsive act and depression. And I didn't think this is the place to discuss that.

In the whole argument with you what I am trying to say is attitude of accused to have their pleasure is most important. Unlike society's norm all rapist are not criminals some are belong to reputed family. Some were very respectful to women. But their pent up frustration, mental instability and my need first attitude make them rapist.

If you are unhappy in marriage go for divorce. Why doomed other person.

MY NEED TO BE FULFILLED AT ANY COST that attitude is crux of both thing. But I don't think people ready to understand this.

I won't reply any further.