looking at the CVs - Page 29

Originally posted by: pamk06

@bold: I think it because of your demand. You have asked for it so many times that they finally relented and showing the conflicting emotions. 😆😆😆. Little late though.

I think we will be subjected to sweet romance between Mauli and Kunal and his push and pull. There is a possibility that Nandini might get pregnant and she will go away. I only want to see which Kunal is left behind. All I want her is to go away and become a strong woman on her own. I only hope that they show his journey through emotions and not through circumstances, where Nandini is in trouble and he keeps running to save her.

I agree, yesterday the whole divorce fiasco did prove, its Nandini that matters to him. Yes, he was shocked initially but at that moment I really wanted to ask him, ""Dude,do you know your wife? what did you expect?" On a serious note,and I am totally quoting you here, they did have a 7 year of happy marriage and in his own words, marriages are deep relationships and divorces are difficult so his shock and sadness was justified. What surprised me was, that the only flashback he had was of his mother and her asking him to step out. That was the reason for him to give "No objections" to the divorce, not Nandini. I did really liked that because it showed that he is blaming only himself for all the devastation that has been caused, not their marriage, nor Nandini. Else we would have seen a kind of resentment towards her which we have not and which is what happens generally.

No flashbacks of Mauli, his total focus on Nandini as soon as he hears she is in trouble, all indicates that its only Nandini for him at this moment. Now, the question is what is more important for him, Nandini or his family.

PS: Yesterday when Kunal came and told Mauli in that "bigi billi" voice that we need to talk, I was like, oh no no no, thats not going to work. We need Nandini's Kunal here who would have come and told her, "I cannot let you do this and I am not going to allow you to do this" which would have been so much more effective. There would have been some fight but atleast we could have got the talk that we were waiting for.

Second, when Mauli looked at Kunal and was expecting him to object, I really wanted to tell her, "Lady, do you know your husband? When has he said "No" to you? He is not going to object and he is going to relent to your wishes. Go talk to him, only then there will be chance to salvage this horrible situation". Well, I cannot complain as that is what makes them Mauli and Kunal.

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@whyhate, @pamk06 -- rather than morally right or wrong, my thought was that kunal is coming from a very different angle when he says "their love isn't wrong". now, we really need kunal's backstory but the way the CVs cut their scenes with the scenes at home was a bit strange because the mom's reaction stood out in super, stark contrast.

when mouli says divorce, the mom seems to not only expect such an action but she actually seems to silently approve it. there is no word to discourage her and neither is there any hurt or disappointment. instead, it is dadi who gives those reactions. then when dadi asks mouli to forgive kunal and give their marriage a second chance, kunal's mom looks like she wants to throw something. she is very disapproving, tsking, annoyed and gritting her teeth -- again, aren't those really strange reactions if she is his mom?

so that makes me think that kunal is rather referencing himself to his own parents situation. often our view of relationships is based on experience or what we observe at home. so in this case, what exactly did kunal observe and experience in his own parents relationship? think what he means by "they aren't wrong" is that they are willing to own their choices and take responsibility for their actions and therefore, this love is not tainted. he actually seems much more confident and very self-assured now with nandini like he knows exactly what he wants and what he is going to do. there is no second guessing himself.

also in the scene where he comforts nandini, wondered if it was more than instinct that he wasn't startled by nandini's meltdown. instead, he seemed very much in his comfort zone like he has seen this kind of behaviour before and knows exactly what to do...

so back to my theory, I am leaning more and more that kunal's mom is actually his stepmom and something happened with their marriage and his biological mother. he married mouli who is more like his stepmom but perhaps his biological mother may have been closer to nandini and hence, he knows exactly what to do to calm her down and also seems more confident and comfortable...

the CVs seem determined to give us clues in bits and pieces and so we might be really surprised when kunal's backstory comes out. perhaps, it will frame this affair far differently than how viewers read it...

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Bold - 1 Hahaha ..Too late Baba.. Ab kya faayda. .

Bold - 2 I fail to understand this part. Let's say his mother hadn't asked him to get out or said anything harsh, then what objections would he have raised for the divorce? If he wants to be with Nandini why should he want to stay married to Mauli? Or is it the abruptness with which Mauli is going about it, that would make him raise objections? Something like, "you're going too fast Mauli, let me just sort out Nandini's issues first and then discuss the divorce with Dida and Mamma and let this news sink in first. Can you hold on till then? I mean, I don't know I fail to understand this. He sure as hell cannot stay married to Mauli and continue his relationship with Nandini, right?

Your PS - haha.. He does have two personalities, doesn't he? In fact I have observed his body language with both the women. With Nandini, his body posture itself is different, his spine a little more erect , head held high, voice a little more deeper. And the way he says, Nandini' jaise ki Maharaj abhi koyi aagya dene waale hai.

And with Mauli when he says her name, in invisible closed brackets I can hear " Don't scold me for this please, lekin aise aise huaa.. "

Anyways, now there is no point in the talk right? Going by yesterday's episode he has already made his choice. And with regards to Mauli's "why Kunal why I don't think Mauli or us, the audience, will get any answer.

Bold - 3 I think, that Kunal, who cared for Mauli's wishes no longer exists. If he cared, he wouldn't have done all this in the first place. This Kunal is torn between wanting to be with Nandini and at the same time trying to escape the guilt that he will have to suffer (hurting his family, becoming this man who left his wife for another woman), when he makes that choice.

The least he can actually do now is liberate Mauli from this meaningless marriage. But going by the OLVs, we know that Kunal and Mauli both will cave in and decide to stay together. At this point, I don't know if it is just an act that they put or they will actually consider rebuilding their relationship? I don't think that the latter is even possible. They will just be two unhappy souls, trying to put on an act in front of Dida and outside world, while just suffocating and hurting internally. And the suffocation and hurt is primarily for Mauli. To see him everyday and to live with the knowledge that he is tied to her only due to circumstances and not because he loves her - that is real suffering. Kunal may be physically separted from Nandini, but he at least knows that there is someone out there who loves him wholeheartedly. Also, I am not sure whether he will cut off all means of communication with Nandini. I guess we have to wait and see how this will play out.

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

yea you are right, he said it before and at the time, thought the CVs were coming from a "all is fair in love and war" kind of thinking but it seems like that actually wasn't that they meant. this time, he gave a whole list of negatives about their relationship but again he insists that their love isn't dirty and they aren't wrong and no one has the right to judge them.

@whyhate, @pamk06 -- rather than morally right or wrong, my thought was that kunal is coming from a very different angle when he says "their love isn't wrong". now, we really need kunal's backstory but the way the CVs cut their scenes with the scenes at home was a bit strange because the mom's reaction stood out in super, stark contrast.

when mouli says divorce, the mom seems to not only expect such an action but she actually seems to silently approve it. there is no word to discourage her and neither is there any hurt or disappointment. instead, it is dadi who gives those reactions. then when dadi asks mouli to forgive kunal and give their marriage a second chance, kunal's mom looks like she wants to throw something. she is very disapproving, tsking, annoyed and gritting her teeth -- again, aren't those really strange reactions if she is his mom?

so that makes me think that kunal is rather referencing himself to his own parents situation. often our view of relationships is based on experience or what we observe at home. so in this case, what exactly did kunal observe and experience in his own parents relationship? think what he means by "they aren't wrong" is that they are willing to own their choices and take responsibility for their actions and therefore, this love is not tainted. he actually seems much more confident and very self-assured now with nandini like he knows exactly what he wants and what he is going to do. there is no second guessing himself.

also in the scene where he comforts nandini, wondered if it was more than instinct that he wasn't startled by nandini's meltdown. instead, he seemed very much in his comfort zone like he has seen this kind of behaviour before and knows exactly what to do...

so back to my theory, I am leaning more and more that kunal's mom is actually his stepmom and something happened with their marriage and his biological mother. he married mouli who is more like his stepmom but perhaps his biological mother may have been closer to nandini and hence, he knows exactly what to do to calm her down and also seems more confident and comfortable...

the CVs seem determined to give us clues in bits and pieces and so we might be really surprised when kunal's backstory comes out. perhaps, it will frame this affair far differently than how viewers read it...

Thoughts after watching yesterday's episode.

I am again unable to understand Nandini. The very pertinent questions that Mauli asked her (without resorting to abuse or name calling) failed to make any impact on her. Of course there was momentary regret, but it never made any impact. But a bunch of stranger women mudslinging at her made her want to push Kunal away. Now , I am not undermining her trauma, because that shaming was nothing but plain abuse in full public view and it is bound to affect even those who haven't really done anything wrong. So maybe her reacting to Kunal in that way, was just something that she did in trauma. And the situation was probably created , so that Kunal can mouth those controversial lines - humara pyaar ganda nahi hai.. Galat Nahin.. Etc.

But what still irks me is that the words of those women who called her a homewrecker and worse made her feel guilty and dirty. But why does she not feel guilty and dirty when she reflects upon her own actions. She cheated her best friend who has always wanted the best for her, who went out of her way to make her life comfortable and safe, knowing that Kunal meant the world to her. How is it that Mauli's questions never affected her to the point of wanting to push Kunal away??

When Kunal first confessed his love to her, the first thing that I actually expected, rather wanted her to ask was, "Mauli ka kya? But the silence between them on that subject stretched on forever. That coffee shop convo made us feel as though they knew and have accepted that they will have to hurt Mauli, but then later she gets shocked when Mauli breaks all ties with her. And now Kunal has made a promise to her and will probably in today's episode tell her about Rajdeep signing the divorce papers. Will she then, at least out of curiosity, ask him what will happen to his marriage?

I just find this so hard to stomach. It makes me feel as though she is unable to asses a situation on her own and that she is still not in a state of mind to have a healthy relationship. Understanding how her actions and decisions can affect the people around her is still not her cup of tea. And since she pretty much does not have a life outside of this relationship, we really don't know what her state of mind is or how effectively she can manage life outside of her relationship with Kunal. Hell, we don't even know whether her relationship with even Kunal is healthy or not? They hardly talk and whenever they do she is very accepting of things he says and does. So far, her rejecting Rajdeep and his abuse is the only thing that can be called as an improvement in her character. Baaki, I just cannot understand her.

Now, isn't it odd that Deeda didn't suffer a stroke hearing about her grandson's infidelity? But the D' word, tauba tauba is the end of the world Half of the marriages on Indian telly happen or survive because of this emotional blackmailling. And I just happened to read on the forum that Kunal will continue meeting with Nandini. So no going away??? I hope Mauli uses her brain cells and get out of this marriage before it shatters her self-esteem completely. She may not be able to get over him easily, but she can at least save her dignity.

And I think I agree with mango_pudding about Kunal being the step son of Yamini. She was struggling not to burst out when Dida was speaking to Mauli.

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Pamk06 - Sorry, I still do not see it the way you do. I think we can agree to disagree. If Kunal wanted time to brace himself and deal with his family he should have started talking long back. His lack of reaction may have been due to shock, but my point is that there is pretty much nothing he can say either ways, because he has made up his mind to choose to be with Nandini. So him not saying anything is not something I would give him credit for. Separating from Mauli would have happened sooner or later, only in this case it is not him choosing the time and announcing the decision.

I understand that the dynamics of the relationship doesn't change overnight , because one cannot simply undo everything that happened in so many years and suddenly go back to being strangers. But he had crossed that line to being Nandini's Kunal now, so nothing he does will actually compensate for that. That is the reason why I said that the least he can do is liberate Mauli from this marriage, legally. I don't understand how that is NOT his responsibility? He may not be SOLELY responsible for it, because Mauli also has to say no to it. But I would really really appreciate if he puts his foot down for something. If he doesn't, then it would amount to him taking advantage of Mauli' 's love for Dida and also depriving her of a chance to move on in life and get over him. I am saying all this based on the assumption that he has firmly affixed Nandini in his heart and mind.

Also, Mauli may not be the one who digs deeper but after being deceived like this by her own husband and best friend, I do not think she would trust again easily. Even if Kunal were to genuinely come back to her, I don't think she would trust him easily, going by her own words.

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

re: the question on what kunal would do next?

from all indications it looks like nandini is still the woman for him. like @pamk06 put it and there seems to be no change in that stance. he doesn't seem to resent nandini which is key. he is regretting hurting dadi and his mom because that wasn't part of his calculations whereas mouli is more like collateral damage that he had planned for. would like to know whether his mom is actually his mom because her reactions are really strange.

as for the dadi asking him to give another chance in the promo, if they take it up, can see them faking it to please others. however, I hope the CVs use dadi as a kind of sounding board where kunal gets to voice his views honestly. obviously with mauli, he can't do that but with dadi who doesn't seem to think less of him for having an affair, he might be more comfortable explaining himself.

in masala anti-hero movies, there is always this scene where the anti-hero's friend or well-wisher confronts him and the anti-hero gives his thinking and we get insight into why he feels this way and why he feels like the wrong method is acceptable. so if used well, dadi could be that kind of sounding board and gives us viewers a better peek into kunal's head.