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Angels11 thumbnail
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I understand ur emotions & respect them. In fact some members in the forum had shared stories of abuse suffered by people close to them. They saw their pain & hence feel emotional on seeing Nandini's pain.

BUT & a big BUT, where I disagree with you is criticizing people who have an alternative view or POV. Calling any other opinion that disagrees with urs as levels of extremism is not correct!

I am definitely part of the minority who are unable to relate to Nandini's pain. This does not make me cruel. I just feel that its high time women become strong & raise their voice against abuse, violence & injustice. I want my daughter to be a brave, confident woman. God willing I am hoping she will fulfill my wish. I pray that she will never face such tragedy. But even if she does I want to believe that she will remember my words & fight back. I want her to believe that no matter what her parents will support her & she need not suffer silently. She must seek help immediately & not accept such abuse.This is the lesson that I want every parent to teach their child. Then there would be no Nandinis & no need for any sympathy. If something like this happen to my daughter. I WILL NOT feel sorry for her. I will hug her, tell her she is not weak & put the monster behind bars. Everytime u feel sorry for Nandini u r just hammering in her the view that she is weak & to be pitied. That she is helpless... The victim should not be made to feel sorry for herself. She should be made to believe that she is strong & the perpetrator cannot & will not get away with his crime.

Tell me something. If I feel sorry for people like Nandini in what way does it help them. Feeling sympathy or pity is NOT the solution. In fact this is precisely the reason why women like Nandini suffer & monsters like Rajdeep remain unpunished. I ve known incidents experienced by my friends where they have actually witnessed such physical abuse in their apartments. In all these cases my colleagues & the other neighbours in the apartment felt sorry for the woman. Sympathy, Empathy, Pity etc etc. But none of them did a damn thing. No1 called the police. No1 called an ambulance. They ve narrated cases where the woman was bleeding on the balcony. When I was in Hyderabad 1 day my maid came with a swollen cheek coz her drunk husband slapped her. I dint feel sorry for her. I dint say Aiyo, pavam. I yelled at her. I dragged her daughter who was standing near the door & said ur daughter is watching u. Is this what u want 2 teach ur daughter. That tomorrow its k if her hubby slaps her. Do u want her 2 become like u. My maid was furious. She said she ll never ever let the same happen to her daughter. She stays in the chawl near my apartment. That evening she locked her house & refused 2 let her husband inside. When the guy started shouting, people in the chawl yelled at my maid saying y r u disturbing all of us. She calmly said I am not yelling, its him who is yelling. If u guys want silence then tell him to shut up, not me to suffer. If u guys support him I will call the police. Every1 was stunned. Then they dragged him out. Aft 2 days the guy came crawling back. She took him back. Aft 1 week again he hit her. This time my maid took the wooden piece that u use to beat clothes while washing & beat him back. She told him next time u do this I will break ur head. Aft tat he dint dare touch her.

So sorry I dont like sympathy. I dont like pity. I want people to be like Mauli. Instead of feeling sorry for her friend she is fighting for her. And in the process she is actually inspiring Nandini to fight back. Just like how my maid fought back.

God helps only those who help themselves. In all these cases instead of feeling sorry if women had been told how to walk out of the house, how to get legal help, how to get counseling, how to get employed & stand on their own feet, people like Nandini will be leading a happy, dignified life.

So yeah u are free to feel sympathy for Nandini. But sorry she will not get any from me. PITY = WEAK. I will be on the sidelines shouting at her to fight back & win!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have seen people like nandini in real life too that to in 21st century and I have seen them try to hide it as much as possible bcs of many reason.Many times I get frustrated why they are tolerating all this but frankly it's not easy for them.We can all say we will do this or that if we are in that position but only a lady in that position know what it felt like.We talk about feminism but when come to support girls like nandini we instead of blame them and force our feminist support to girls who are living a normal life with husband and start blaming that husband instead just bcs he is a human and some mistake but never disrespect his wife.We start comparing them with abusers...anyway live it nice post sophe
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes,People like Nandini still exists.They are very much part of the liberated women and the 21st century women.Yes it takes courage and strength to stand up against abusive anyone,not only husband even the fisher woman who hurls abuses when asked for a discount.yes there are Women like Nandini even today.
My question is why ?why do people like Nandini still exist?Why are we as women asked to compromise all the time?I know of a person who was having an affair with a girl and the wife fond out through their sleazy emails and did not get any support.She was told that she was not satisfying her husband hence his erstwhile interest.He came back to her and she was asked by her family and his family to go back to him even though even today she doesn't trust him 100%.

I cannot relate to Nandini,yes,But She has my full sympathy.She is brought up that way,I am sure she has seen her mom compromising all the time and we have seen that us daughters tend to follow the footsteps of our mothers.unless we see our mothers standing up for herself,we will lack courage to do so.Maybe that was what happened to Nandini.

Once you show you are weak it is very difficult to rise up like phoenix and fight the injustice.There is a term in Psychology called forced helplessness,which says that once the weak has decided that she is weak,then she herself decides that it is all she is worthy of and the abuses coming her way is what she deserves.Then she will keep on tolerating all the abuses till she gains enough strength to fight back or die.usually it is the latter that happens,hence the high level of female suicides.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#14
Exactly very well said

thats my point but people dont undurstand these things

they want to leave in dream world


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Posted: 7 years ago
#15
I totally agree with you
It's a grave misconception that people assume that "she's not today's women" and "why can't she leave" - if we actually looked closer and deeper around us with an open mind and kinder heart then there's more Nandini''s littered about than we will be able to count.
We live in a much more cruel, selfish world with much more entitled lifestyles. Just like we can live above and beyond our means - people's greed has reached an all time low and continues to spiral to further depths of depravity.

It is said na women are women's worst enemies - I'm assuming most theses comments are from female members - if it was this easy to leave such relation/brutality and abuse - I doubt there would be beyond a handful of marriages surviving the test of time!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: dqno1

I agree with you Soph

It's a truth of society that they will stand only with the strong, the rich, the ones with influence.

If you can't do anything for me I don't prefer to see you; that's the mantra.

Sad thing is helping someone enriches you.

I guess Mauli will be the true heroine here


I'm a afraid its part n parcel of society, the exact place we feel safe in. Sad
Byt totally agree Mauli is so special here and so glad they are showing that Mauli saves Nandini, so much appreciated. 👏

Thank Avi
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Posted: 7 years ago
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It's truly sad, but a hard hitting fact there are many Nandinis around us even
In today's times irrespective of education, family background, status etc etc.
There could be any no. Of reasons for them not being able to come out of those
abusive relationships / marriages. Not just empathy, but they need strong support
from both family & society as a whole to come out of it & stronger.
Unfortunately that's not the case many a times & we continue to see tragic endings.







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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ Angel: I truly love the inspiration you hold to aspire women to do the right thing i.e. fight back. However when I chose the title I was hinting at those viewers with the harsh perspective rather than those with a different viewpoint than me (we all are entitled to have an opinion).

The:

- I want to slap her

- She deserves this

- Its Rajdeep jazzbaat (feeling)

Those comments crawled my skin, the unjustified attack on such a woman just because she is different than the perceived fearless kind. If she is weak that in no account allows some other 'women' (I suppose) to attack her in any form or shape. I do understand watching such scene must be upsetting but just a little cautious needs to be applied, because in their anger they are suggesting the opposite i.e. siding with Rajdeep or looking as bad as him. I understand your feelings of saying sympathy leads to nothing and action speaks volume but having some personal experience, I can say not everyone reflects the same. I am so happy that your maid took hold of the matter but some of these women have little or close to zero self-esteem and you can imagine how no confidence would turn an individual? Why do you think suicide had risen? So kind words, or rather words of wisdom spoken in a nice manner can work wonders, the exact job of a psychiatrist?

Personally I feel you do sympathise with victims, but have another outlook of it. Rather than the I'm sorry' speech you set out to inspire. So in my words, yes you do emphasise thus the words of action, had you not pitied or shown sympathy then you would have ignored and simply reflected the issue as its their business' or she must deserve it'.

Thank you Angel for the response, but more so for being the woman you are

Keep motivating

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Snow_Angel

I have seen people like nandini in real life too that to in 21st century and I have seen them try to hide it as much as possible bcs of many reason.Many times I get frustrated why they are tolerating all this but frankly it's not easy for them.We can all say we will do this or that if we are in that position but only a lady in that position know what it felt like.We talk about feminism but when come to support girls like nandini we instead of blame them and force our feminist support to girls who are living a normal life with husband and start blaming that husband instead just bcs he is a human and some mistake but never disrespect his wife.We start comparing them with abusers...anyway live it nice post sophe


Hey Snow, yes totally people like her do exist even in the 21st CENTURY. So the outcry of it being a different timing, and women are walking all walks of life is rather stretched. Yes women are educating but does that really warrant a better life, a life without violence? Not always

Yes she does deserve better but this judging needs to stop. She probably wasn't weak, she probably doesn't know how to come out of it? Which woman would like to live like that?

Some hide because they love their partner, love is a weird thing which i frankly don't understand and neither am I willing.

Anyway thank you, i'll probally go off on one if i don't stop lol. As you can tell i can speak for the world lol

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: madlal

Yes,People like Nandini still exists.They are very much part of the liberated women and the 21st century women.Yes it takes courage and strength to stand up against abusive anyone,not only husband even the fisher woman who hurls abuses when asked for a discount.yes there are Women like Nandini even today.

My question is why ?why do people like Nandini still exist?Why are we as women asked to compromise all the time?I know of a person who was having an affair with a girl and the wife fond out through their sleazy emails and did not get any support.She was told that she was not satisfying her husband hence his erstwhile interest.He came back to her and she was asked by her family and his family to go back to him even though even today she doesn't trust him 100%.

I cannot relate to Nandini,yes,But She has my full sympathy.She is brought up that way,I am sure she has seen her mom compromising all the time and we have seen that us daughters tend to follow the footsteps of our mothers.unless we see our mothers standing up for herself,we will lack courage to do so.Maybe that was what happened to Nandini.

Once you show you are weak it is very difficult to rise up like phoenix and fight the injustice.There is a term in Psychology called forced helplessness,which says that once the weak has decided that she is weak,then she herself decides that it is all she is worthy of and the abuses coming her way is what she deserves.Then she will keep on tolerating all the abuses till she gains enough strength to fight back or die.usually it is the latter that happens,hence the high level of female suicides.



Exactly I agree with your POV, why is there such existence in the first place. But the sad reality is, there would always be people like Nandini until there is a drastic change. Men do receive an advantage, centuries before us they have lived like they own the world and some nincompoops still behave so and unfortunately not all families are adopting the changes in the world. Like you said Nandini's family might be one of them.

Personal belief and faith can work wonders, and that's were bullies rule, I feel. When a piece of shit makes someone else feel worthless, the victim no matter what loses her/his capability to see beyond the view of the bully. Rajdeep here is the bully, the reminder of her being a failure in education, calling her ugly, useless etc, is just the act of such bullying abusive husbands. And then people wonder why Nandini is like that? What else do you expect from a women who socialises with no one but a man who mentally and physically assaults her character? She is forced to believe his shit and sees herself as nothing. Hence she puts up with his crap.

Thank you Madlal

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