HaYa's DDLJ Reloaded.. - Page 2

Originally posted by: LuvRUBI

I am loving this deewani saumya...n her craziness for her fav candy, harman... Remember saumya's dialogue before haya reunion thinking harman's decision of becoming a saint.. she said that harman will take such big decision just because he thinks that she doesn't love him... So I guess this craziness is the result of that realisation only.. may be that's why she has become so expressive n vocal about her love.. n may be through this she is trying to erase all the pains which she has given to him coz she was feeling sorry for that... Whatever reason is... but she just rocked with her idea of running away...

Harman wants to win saumya by winning trust of his mother-in-law, saaya... n so he just can't run away... n I guess this time he don't want to leave singh house too... though he never wanted to leave n last time also, it was harpreet who asked him to leave but still afterthat he wanted to leave city n at one time, he even wanted to leave country but this time, there seems nothing like that... he will not leave singh house... though he is royally ignoring every member of his family n didn't expecting anything from them, neither he is angry on them nor he has anything left to tell them but still he was living there only n I think after returning back also, he will live there only... It's actually good that he is a dutiful son n still cares for his parents but as a viewer, I won't like this...

About saaya, I don't think she has deep-thinking like you... in fact, I guess now she doesn't even want to reveal saumya's real identity... actually nobody wanted this ever... I think saaya is somewhere little-bit obsessed with saumya n so she just don't want to send her with harman...

Vivian deserves all the appreciations for his guts n his phenomenal performance as harman... it's not easy to play a character who lives with kinners, plays dhol for kinners... I felt very bad when I saw Rubi clapping like kinners n just wanted to yell on makers that was it needed to show.. n the same I felt seeing harman playing dhol... but have to say VD, RD made their fans proud with their dedication for their work... this is called a real actor who only knows to perform his characters... when they chosed to play kinner n kinner's lover then that means they are all set to perform in every situation... hats off to them.. 👏

BTW, with harman's decision of staying with kinners, I remembered one thing... I remember of seeing update of surbhi turning vamp just because she had to be with kinners for some hours... n even nimmi used to get scared of kinners even when her daughter is also a kinner... it actually shows how hollow their love for saumya was n how deep harman's love for his gulabo is... they claim that they love saumya but somewhere they never accepted her with her real identity n it's just harman... who loves saumya truly... he loves the kinner, saumya... n has accepted her like that only with his heart...Harman is love...

Yes I m loving this crazy in love Saumya too .. the way she is rebelling and standing for her love .. hope she remains like this only .. no more sacrifices .. Harman is facing all the pain for her only .. she should stick to him now no matter what 😳

About Harman not leaving Singh house , I think more than the dutiful son reason , another reason is Harman knows that if he leaves his house , he will hv to build his own house and do some job .. But he does not hold any degree ..so its difficult to find a job when u dont hv a degree .. Varun despite being a MBA cannot afford a job or his own house .. stayling as Ghar Jamai in Mannu's house 😆.. Because in place like Gurdaspur its next to impossible to find a job for yourself and even more difficult if u dont hv a degree .. In place like Gurdaspur Its either u should hv your father's business like some factory which later Son will join or u leave the village and go to a city for independent work for which u got to hv a degree , something that Harman does not hv .. This is one main reason I feel , he dont want to leave his house so that he can provide a secure shelter to his wife .. Thats why I m hoping during his stay with kinners , he starts some business and becomes independent somehow .. because once he does become independent , he will never go back to that house again ... His relation with his family is almost non existent now .. Like Preeto herself said that few months ago Harman used to create huge chaos everywhere if his mother went somewhere even for few seconds but today he cared a damn even when she threatened him of going somewhere .. So Harman has reached a stage where he dont feel any emotions for his family .. neither emotions of love nor emotions of hate .. He treats them like strangers because of the amount of pain they hv given him and Saumya ... Only reason why he dont leave the house is just for the need to hv a secure shelter for him and his wife .. But that need wont b there anymore , day he becomes independent ..

Coming to Saya , I will still keep her in wait and watch mode till she stoops low to the level of Preeto and starts indulging in criminal activities 😆 .. I know she is obsessed with Saumya or should I say Tarana 😆 but I feel this obsession is only the reason why she is testing Harman to see if he is ready to face the society with his kinner wife .. thats why yesterday she repeatedly asked Harman , can u face the society when u will play drum with kinners .. its more like she is secretly analysing what he replies in his defense ..

Agree about Harman's love for Saumya .. I dont think noone can ever love her the way Harman loves her .. Harman loves both Saumya and Tarana .. Whereas whether its Surbhi or Nimmi only loved her as Saumya ..

Originally posted by: sairitu

Wonderful analysis jyothi. You are the best .

I have a doubt ,Can someone plz clarify this?

What is soumya actually? I mean her identity .

What is her physical problem to have physical relation with harman?

Recently i witnessed a fight over soumya's identity and the sexual relationship of HAYA n future.

There was an argument saying that soumya could never be cured and HAYA could never consummate their marriage.This will be an incomplete love story .Is this true?

One vivian fan argued that they are spoiling his image by showing him behind a kinnar who can never give him any physical pleasure.its actually so absurd as no man will live forever without any sexual life .This is actually an injustice to him and his parents are right about it.

I tried to explain to them how pure,divine ,eternal harman's love is.Its beyond any physical pleasure .

This is an iconic character on Indian Tv .We will hope to see a complete love story of HAYA but they seemed unconvincing .

I myself want to know ,whether i am wrong or right? Is there any possibility in future to see HAYA consummating their marriage.?

Harman truly deserves all the pleasures in his life for his great love including physical pleasure with soumya .

I think u r arguing with the wrong people .. there r few grps who will hate the show or HaYa even if Saumya was a girl because their problem is the actress and not the character .. they r mostly Madhubala or PKEK fans Jodi who dont like Vivian's new jodi .. so no matter how much u explain them they wont b convinced .. but its their choice ..

Whether Saumya can b treated or not , it will depend on the makers .. I dont think we should really decide for whats fair and unfair for Harman .. Let him decide his life and let us enjoy HaYa 😆😳 ... If suppose they r not able to consummate ever , does that mean we should root for another girl for Harman just so that he no more remains a virgin ? 😆 .. At least I wont do that nor would I bother about what future holds .. just want to enjoy the current phase of their love story ..

On a funny note , there r shows where the couple r completely normal yet dont consummate even after 3-4 yrs of the show .. Best example is kumkum bhagya 😆 .. but fans of that show dont care .. they just enjoy the good chemistry of the couple ..

Originally posted by: anitarani

Wonderful analysis...Loved reading all...Saumya acting

like deewani...a treat for sore eyes...after the past 3

months...and even better was Harman ... the impulsive

the dramebaaz the hero banda...very calmly...assuredly

explaining to Saumya...no need to run now...from whom

to run...and to trust him...that for me was really nailed

by Vivian...Haya both enacting so beautifully...it seems

so real...

This was such a beautiful change in Harman na 😳 .. Love has really made him grow matured and responsible .. And his character growth is simply terrific .. I might hv 100s of complains for a RS show , but the way they hv kept Harman intact for 1 yr and 7 months now , I got to give it to them 👏 ..

Originally posted by: thala

beautiful analysis

deewani sowmya is a treat to watch. she is not afraid of anyone, boldly comes out to meet harman and that too outside his house instead of asking him to come to a common place. This clearly shows how far saumya's character has improved, Her confession has blown away all the inhibitions she had earlier, be it fear of society, harpreet or her own insecurities, she has clearly understaood that her astitva is neither sowmya nor tarana and its purely gulabo, Harman is sweetly stunned by her courage to brave evveryone and come this far only to take her awqy from there.

as you said DDLJ reloaded, completely agree

similarly simran asks raj to take her away but he wanted to win her

just like raj and simran our HaYa will go places in the history of television.

IF saumya cant live in my world ,I will live in her world. OMG this is epic.Harman competes saumya now. He just wants to show that he has accepted her with her wajood, he has applied medicine to her wounds he had caused by saying ghin athi hai mujhe tumse. Har sadak chap kinnar se humdardi hi hogi, this was his thoughts on kinnars but now, he is ready to do anything for her and even if its living among kinnars he is least bothered. How can someone be so genuine, Harman character is a lifetime character and vivian is lucky to have grabbed it.

I always love to watch harman Vs Preeto, its very uncommon in TV shows, every time harman diffuses preeto he nails it like a boss Harman character has come a long way.He doesnt respect them anymore and doesnt care for them either. such an impulsive dialogue block kar do harak singh ke number ko. OMG harman is brilliant, even if not for the kinnar society if he reforms saumya the title SAKEK would be justified

U hv explained it so beautifully .. yes I still remember once he said "Ghin aati hai mujhe tumse" after he found out she is a kinner ... And today he is more than happy to stay in her world and fight for his love .. such a beautiful change of a man in love .. its no less than a fairytale

I also remember during his birthday night he did say "I cannot fall for any sadak chalte kinner " .. today he is ready to walk with them and play dhol .. again a beautiful growth in character ..

Many might find it insulting for Harman's character but for me , I only feel respect for such a man .. Its not easy to treat everyone equal with his actions ... its easy to say I treat all equal but when it comes to action , all fail .. but Harman has passed this test of treating all equal with his actions too .. hats off to him 👏👏

I really hope he is able to bring a change and unite both the worlds .. mindset need to change from both sides .. hope he can manage to do that ...

Originally posted by: jyoti06

I think u r arguing with the wrong people .. there r few grps who will hate the show or HaYa even if Saumya was a girl because their problem is the actress and not the character .. they r mostly Madhubala or PKEK fans Jodi who dont like Vivian's new jodi .. so no matter how much u explain them they wont b convinced .. but its their choice ..

Whether Saumya can b treated or not , it will depend on the makers .. I dont think we should really decide for whats fair and unfair for Harman .. Let him decide his life and let us enjoy HaYa 😆😳 ... If suppose they r not able to consummate ever , does that mean we should root for another girl for Harman just so that he no more remains a virgin ? 😆 .. At least I wont do that nor would I bother about what future holds .. just want to enjoy the current phase of their love story ..

On a funny note , there r shows where the couple r completely normal yet dont consummate even after 3-4 yrs of the show .. Best example is kumkum bhagya 😆 .. but fans of that show dont care .. they just enjoy the good chemistry of the couple ..

Originally posted by: Flora15

Hilarious interpretation gago 👏 I really enjoyed reading it yes my heart our HaYa are rocking and we're watching a new haYa;the deewane Saumya V the matured lover Harman. I'll begin with your funny note bcz it's important ;as these two lovebirds are one and along their journey they infected each other with each other charateristics so it's very healthy to watch Harman soul goes in Saumya turning crazy and wanting escape with Harman leaving everything like Harman want doing before and in same manner Saumya soul goes inside Harman and this lover turned matured is pacifying his gulabo explaining her the importance of family HaYa learned a lot from each other and they're source of inspiration to each other:Saumya learned the crazinness of love and get infected badly after she freeds her heart and her Harman ji love turned her oxygen and Harman learned this mature side about the importance of family. We're in front of new HaYa in reversal roles as old saumya never dare do the craziest act running away with her love leaving everything behind her and old Harman never dare passing through tough phase living in kinar community to gain his wife family hearts and turning his .Saumya come out from her sacrifice coma and Harman understands that running isn't the solution ;he turned mature and decided to fight passing through a very complicated phase living in kinar community to win his gulabo family hearts .it's HaYa Dilwale Dulhania le jayenge reloaded .Harman is raj,Saumya Simran and SaYa is Amrish Puri (simran father) but this DDLJ is coming with something new with is the uniqueness .

laughted a lot Friday when one friend give same medecine to all who said shakti is a saas bahu show (they're making fun of it as it's impossible) saying that those must see now the damaad-saas show as Harman will live with kinars to gain Saumya's family hearts😆😆We turned sarcastic taking fun of that bcz shakti is neither a saas bahu nor a damaad-saas show ;Shakti is HaYa unconditional love journey and this kahani is passing through different phases full of struggles and pains.HaYa relation is neither accepted from Harman family nor Saumya family. HaYa are like romeo and Juliet but this romeo and Juliet are unique too as Harman is a man and Saumya an eunuch and HaYa will do the exception making their love winner giving Hope and inspiration for generations.

The Great Escape of HaYa;

Saumya:"I escaped from house Pos Harman ji take me far away from here"

'Aaj i'm neither Saumya nor Tarana bankar.. Aapke Gulabo bankar.. Plz take me far away from here where there is only me and you "

Awww my god though I'm dreaming hearing Saumya ☺️Harman was shocked with suprise.Is this his gulabo or it's only a dream.The way he comes toward her after receiving her call show he's tensioned and preocupated ;first thing he asked her why coming alone at night?is she ok?..Harman have fear if something bad happened with her. The deewani Saumya give the second big Shock never received before;It's that sweetest big surprise who shake Harman heart with happiness ;time stops for him as he gulabo is contaminated with his love madness.Harman eyes are speaking volumes admiring his gulabo craziness ;she 's saying him I'm you your gulabo take me to a place where we can only me and you ☺️Sure Harman heart is in celebration mood his lady love detached herself from the whole world and wants only him ;even her name she choose her Husband invention .She's gulabo and she wants built their own world where they can live together.

Adored Saumya smart thoughs before coming to Harman(this too learned fromher Harman ji) When all kinar was sleeping she's lost in though(in this moment Harman was angry as he said he have gone with solution but she kept her with her"saya'"What can i say i'can protect her :it's absurd.Harman gives right to saya as he know she's not wrong making this conditions and he goes to sleep).

Saumya said their conditions can only work on Harman ji and not me.They put him conditions and Harman can't come to me but I can go to him and say him to take me far away where we can be only me and him.Saumya gets the solution and elopd from kinar house secretly longing to meet her love and proposing him the solution to end of their beginning a new life together where this only them.Saumya in the craziness avatar lover is mesmerizing ;she's breathing love;she dilivering mezmerings dialogues hynotizasing her husband and us as a viewers .We're surprised with the deewani and falling in her love more.Harman with this happy surprise who took his breath making him the most happiest one as his gulabo want only him can't deceive her especially the way she's holding his hand when he want say her something but her speech made him spwechless and kept admiring her;With care and softness said her to go with him .Saumya face shines more and showed relief;her eyes get more sparkles as her tears turned diamandsSaumya going with Harman think she's leaving Gurdarspur with her love.

OMG HaYa in car look hilarious; the way they exchanging eye lock ☺️Saumya can't stop giving cheeriest smiles full of love ,passion and desires.Her cheecks turn badly in red .Yes as you said she gets her sweetest candy and she rejoicing having it .Harman in his turn is enjoying the fragrance of his candy;Her fragrance is tickling his heart and that 's why he's admiring her and smiling.Harman too is breathing his candy fragrance. Don't know how this Harman didn't profit the situation rejoicing romantic moment before turning his gulabo to the kinar house.I'm sure that this Harman and the way his admiring his gulabo in car is handling himself with difficulty and want to be with her eagerly.This lover have something new ;he 's mad in love but this crazy lover turned mature that's why he said to his shocked gulabo it's enough running away .

_Harman to kinars :Enough running come withme...mere gulabo didn't runned away ...mere gulabo is naive and don't know the consequences of escape.Every time I escape my father deprive me of something... Peole say that i'm mad lover and useless...No one ask my gulabo or say her anything

Harman to Saumya:how long we will escape ? from whom we will run ? From these who are your family ?Who is Saya?She is like your mother Hm?We'll not run anywhere ...Give me sometime ,I will take you from them with their agreement.. I will take you with me he holding your hand; they will themselves give your hand in my hand ...We'll not elope, but I will win you turning you back with me"

fantastic dialogues from a matured lover ;Harman dialogue are hilarious and took our breath.Harman has grown up and understands that running from the people we love isn't the solution but must win their hearts making them understand our relation.Harman showed a lot of respect to kinars considering them as Saumya family and explain to his angry and teary gulabo who refuse staying in Kinar's house that the imposed conditions are for her safety and says fear about her future.Harman pacifying his lady love his amazing ;his treating her as a child with care and softness looking at her with his killing modulated voice;there is softness;love ;passion and determination

Saumya heartbrocken and in tears like a child snached from him his candy said why you turned me here ;i can't live without you. Harman with a souful voice replied her can i live without you and repeat can i do?his gulabo nod her head and he said her all that dialogue ;Harman in every sentence is pacifying his gulabo chanting his souful matured dialogue modulating his voice especially when he put emphasis in the sentence" Tumhura Harman Haiga"an he repeat it .Harman make all his soulful emotions and showed determination. Harman is appeasing his wife mind and he's promising her that he will come.

About Saya i agree about what you said and we must see her colors .Saya loves Saumya ;Knows Harman love and SaYa don't hate Harman.May be SaYa is the wisest one here ;SaYa is making both HaYa big trouble to see the result of.Yes we will be angry on her and saying bad things about her but if we think wisely ;What SaYa is doing will fruitful results.HaYa will pass through hurdles and a very complicated phase but they'll end winner.

Harman;"If Saumya can't live in my world , then I will live in Saumya's world ...You're right if Society refuse our relation what to do ...My parents can accept Saumya for me but it I'm no more they'll throw her so I cancelled taking Saumya to live in my world and come to live in her world''

_Whats my fault if my father backmailed my efforts in the last minute ..I showed my approval by giving my property to Saumya naaa..Aaj I' m ready to stay in her world bcz I love her so much .. if I'll die I will leave to Saumya my big love who will be her fortune and no fortune can be equal to it ;she can survive with whole her life without needing , I will leave behind so much love foranything "

You explained this part nicely and really I want reinterpret every detail but it's not possible. Harman give Saya her own medicine and even said her that her conditions are only tamasha to separate him from his lady love .So he bakrupted her plan and cancelled taking Saumya to his world.Harman was prepared for everything and when kinar want kicking him out the house he shoots goon making them in fear and give the goon to SaYa telling her to shoot him and end the story as can't live without Saumya. Harman make SaYa panicked as Saya isn't criminal and can't kill Harman so she find herself aceepting his decision giving him one night to think what to do to feed his wife living in kinar world👏

There Is a heart touchful thing said by Harman about kinar world witch is Kumar good and they have so hearts.

Must say there is only one world in witch we survive with our defferenciation and defects. All of us we're equal ;we're a devine creation and Humanity is our unity but our crap socities are creating these two different worlds .Harman will be the reformer who will do the revolution uniting these two worlds.But before the change he must live in that world passing through big pains and bearing the humiliation. Harman is taking his lady love as his source of inspiration.

_A triple fool for Preeto or like you 're saying Popat Preeto Popat :

Can't stop laughing about this crescendo triple fool 🤣

you talked about perfectly I wanna say that Presto in one night and moring gets three big shock ;first Harman royal ignorance upstairs to his room.Second in the morning discovering he leaved and adored shannou acting as she's stabbing her heart without any mercy and she received the call who make her breaking down with shock.She's in disbelief and speechless

The bested one Harman in phone saying her if you want leave home to find you happiness leave it as have done ;I find my happiness $$$ don't dare to have suicidal thoughts as I'll be more rapid than you ...Ha don't keep looking at Harak Singh and your luggage...Chachi take her stuff to room"😆😆

Harman Know every single detail of his mom and I adored how he answered one guruma when she accuse him of not respecting his mom.No one knows his mom like him ..We watched how Presto is pressuring HS to return Harman or she'll leave home like Harman .He's smart and know how to handle his mom .Harman let Preeto perplexed ,heartbrocken,helpless and in big trauma.She have only to bring up and bow to her son decision.

But we know his bloody parents will not give up

Adored too the paralel scenes of SH and kinars house when Saumya escaped meeting Harman and proposing him running away from the city and buhuuut mazaiga the situation in S house; Preeto screaming like a mad after discovering Harman left the House.

Didn't digest mannu reaction when he heared about the escape ;he disgust me and no need to talk about.

It was a powerpacked episode and I feel no words can describe the beauty of what we're watching.

Beautifully written Flora 👏 ... I too loved how Harman counterattacked Saya and told her I know these conditions r just excuses to keep me and Saumya away .. Saya had nothing to say in her defence then and just said but u dint really fulfill the condition ... Harman still had an answer that he did fulfill but its his father who backstabbed , so he is not at fault here ... In the end when Saya was totally defeated by Harman's counterattack , she lets Harman stay in the house but puts further new conditions and as we can see Harman is successfully fulfilling them all one by one 😆😃

I also loved how Harman has now learnt the consequences of running away and so he explains to Saumya that running away is never a solution .. we should confront the reality and let our love win over all evils ..thats the only way we can live peacefully ever after and he is right in a way .. I think this whole separation phase has taught him a lot about life ... He dont want to loose Saumya again and so this time he wants to end this issue once and for all without running away from it

I just hope Saumya too fully supports him and dont go in sacrifice mode again seeing Harman struggle .. Harman's biggest strength is Saumya only .. as long as she is with him , nothing can defeat him ..

Originally posted by: sairitu

Ya ,I think you are right jyothi. I should avoid unnecessary discussion with wrong people,who are not open for anything.

As I am not completely aware of soumya's situation and what to know, what is soumya's real identity?

What is her actual physical problem? Can she be treated ? I can see her having sexual tension whenever harman came close to her and felt his touch.Tell me whatever you know abt soumya's condition.

I do remember in one episode ,where soumya went to savitri hospital and investigated abt treatment for her condition and the lady doctor positively responded to that.Based on this,i am hopeful that oneday ,HAYA will become one and their love story will be completed.

In the show till now they hv not made it clear about Saumya's actual physical problem .. she is just called a kinner .. but in that merger epi with savitri devi , they did hint that her treatment is possible ... In fact today medical science has advanced so much that a full sex change operation from man to woman is possible too and has been done ... So in Saumya's case its more than possible as she is more of a woman only with underdeveloped organs ..

I too hope their love story is eventually complete but I feel that stage will come much later because once her treatment is done , show will no more remain a story about kinners which is main theme of the show ... So for now CVs will concentrate more on the main theme ..