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Posted: 8 years ago
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As Rubi said in her latest interview, we should avoid gender labels. Kinners or transgenders or intersex or with whatever name they called they should be accepted in society just like normal man n woman. We all are creation of gods n we or society or law has no right to snach their rights.

Many children are born with different kinds of defects. Parents should accept them, educate them n make them independent n strong enough to face society. N if there are some people like harman in this world who are ready to marry kinners then society n law should definitely accept them.

Coming to legality of haya marriage, I thought of a track for this. When surbhi was to divorce harman, I thought they will show lawyer making fun of her as how can she ask for a divorce in an illegal marriage as haya never got divorced at first place. Then surbhi coming to vampy mode again thinking that how can her so called sacrifice n greatness be tagged unwanted n then in fit of rage she filing a case demanding wify rights from harman claiming that haya marriage was illegal as saumya is kinner so harman should leave saumya n accept her. This leading to harman taking a stand for saumya's rights n fighting to save his marriage with saumya putting his points that he love saumya n that second marriage was forced onto him which he never accepted n he wants to live with saumya only n also saying that marriages don't get successful just with the stamp of legal. N at last court giving justice legalising haya marriage that kinners should also get rights of marriage.

Ahhh.. I thought too much..

Anyway it was good that they ended surbhi headache. I couldn't watch shakti for three n half months just because of her... so it was a relief that they didn't took the root of proving whose marriage was legal n whose illegal.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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All here r discussing it just randomly,not legally..@hend..dear pardon me in islam kinnar marriage..its something i shouldnt discuss..i made d post from my pov to make dere rights legalize n most importantly to discuss chocolate boy topic if haya marriage is legal so i thought to discuss it from legal pov but here all r discussing it just randomly talking about emotions,destiny n all..
Nw i should consult bar association coz per latest legal decision journal dese type of marriages r not legalized.being a lawyer i should drop d topic here
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Seema...

All here r discussing it just randomly,not legally..@hend..dear pardon me in islam kinnar marriage..its something i shouldnt discuss..i made d post from my pov to make dere rights legalize n most importantly to discuss chocolate boy topic if haya marriage is legal so i thought to discuss it from legal pov but here all r discussing it just randomly talking about emotions,destiny n all..

Nw i should consult bar association coz per latest legal decision journal dese type of marriages r not legalized.being a lawyer i should drop d topic here

You are a lawyer? Great to know this... Well I am a student only, how can I compete with you on this topic...

As I have already mentioned in chocolate_boy's post that I don't know much about this legality n all. N I agree that law should be made giving them equal rights if it is not made till now.

I will try to reasearch this issue but I will take time for that
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@luvrubi..thank u..yes a lawyer n a dr too..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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After unveiling Saumya true sure they'll face that their marriage is illegal in front if laws ;all of us know that dear Seema but as we know people are the makers of their laws and they can change fighting for their rights...Haya marriage and love are a fact and they must face the society and fight for their rights.The change can happens only when people raise their voice and not thing happen easily my dear.Sure raising their voice and fighting for their rights they'll end successful.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Seema...

All here r discussing it just randomly,not legally..@hend..dear pardon me in islam kinnar marriage..its something i shouldnt discuss..i made d post from my pov to make dere rights legalize n most importantly to discuss chocolate boy topic if haya marriage is legal so i thought to discuss it from legal pov but here all r discussing it just randomly talking about emotions,destiny n all..

Nw i should consult bar association coz per latest legal decision journal dese type of marriages r not legalized.being a lawyer i should drop d topic here


First I didn't read chocolate boy post so I don't know what you were talking about legalization of HaYa marriage

Secondly in your post you started it with the words "in my opinion " so we are talking about opinions not legal or not cause I'm not a lower and even if I know my country lows I don't know Indian lows so I wouldn't say anything here or talk about things I don't know about

that's what make me reply this post you were talking about opinions not lows
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If it is the matter I'm proud that i live in the country India which is taking active measures to give the equal status to the LGBT Community. The very much proof is the passing of "The Transgender Bill 2014" in Rajya Sabha which not only seeks against the discrimination among the community but also proposed to get them reservation in educational institutes and in Govt. and private Jobs as Well.
And if we talk about the Human Rights which includes three kinds of Rights,Socio-economic,Political and Civil Rights for both Individual as well as for Group. Each and everyone is provided with that. Right to Vote under Art 325 & Art 326 of Indian Constitution and LGBT Community is very much allowed to vote and have their Voter Id's as well and in every election an active participation is seen by them every year. We have in every forms whether it be govt or Private there are three categories to be marked for options Men,Women and Transgender. This very much shows that the law does give recognition to the community and this cane into force after the passing of the transgender bill 2014 in Rajya Sabha, and one more thing to be glad and proud is that the transgender bill 2016 has been returned by the committee and the reason for returning it makes any indian who is concerned with humanity and giVing of Equal rights to every one coz the bill was returned coz the committee found that the Civil rights which were mentioned in the Latter were not complete,the committee found that the Civil rights mentioned in the bill didn't gave a clear cut view or explanation of their marital rights which are very much Part of the civil rights. So to give a proper recognition to their marriage the steps also been taken which is a very proud thing for all of us. When God didn't discriminated while making all of us who are we to judge them. We re only humans and to respect other himan and his rights is Humanity. Rights not only include the sentences written in some clauses or articles but also the respect to be given to their choices... No matter who one is and what its identity. All What I want to say is there was a time when no one of us even think about them or this topic earlier but if today we are talking about this,the community which is very much exploited and deprived of their rights that means Change is coming and e shoukd welcome the change and why we can't imagine about the love thing between them. As we said they too are humans and if I'm not wrong Humans have feelings and emotions. In our Political Science we studied Humans are social animals. So to being with Society to be part of it every talk every discussion is their desire too. All what i want to say is If we are neglecting their emotions,choices,feelings then sorry to say but then the rights are of no use The recent news that in One of our states a Transgender candidate stood up for legislative assembky elections and it is a sign of progress and towards change. And i'm in full support of it. They dhould be given each amd every Right which U,Me and every human enjoys and should get.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you yaar for bringing this topic. I think law is not enough for social change. Education is important. . If people are taught about kinnar and their well being at school level there will be a change. The society needs to change and not laws. Laws are just reflection of the society.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I was silent mmbr in pkyek, madubala n shakti forum n saw mny mmbrs postng. In forum i knw most mmber writng style like sudha, lazy, rutheless slayers, snowangel, rm14, caffneaddict, jyoti, anitarni n mny mre n even seema n dis post is nt by seema. Whoevr u r juz stp usng her id bcz dis wrtng way isnt her. Being silnt mmber in IF 4 mny show i knw dis mch dat who write hw. D way u r argung wid chclate boy n oder tell hw u r sum1 else usng seema id. if she tld u 2 use her acount den wrte ur name n den tlk wid ppl.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manishadmg9

If it is the matter I'm proud that i live in the country India which is taking active measures to give the equal status to the LGBT Community. The very much proof is the passing of "The Transgender Bill 2014" in Rajya Sabha which not only seeks against the discrimination among the community but also proposed to get them reservation in educational institutes and in Govt. and private Jobs as Well.

And if we talk about the Human Rights which includes three kinds of Rights,Socio-economic,Political and Civil Rights for both Individual as well as for Group. Each and everyone is provided with that. Right to Vote under Art 325 & Art 326 of Indian Constitution and LGBT Community is very much allowed to vote and have their Voter Id's as well and in every election an active participation is seen by them every year. We have in every forms whether it be govt or Private there are three categories to be marked for options Men,Women and Transgender. This very much shows that the law does give recognition to the community and this cane into force after the passing of the transgender bill 2014 in Rajya Sabha, and one more thing to be glad and proud is that the transgender bill 2016 has been returned by the committee and the reason for returning it makes any indian who is concerned with humanity and giVing of Equal rights to every one coz the bill was returned coz the committee found that the Civil rights which were mentioned in the Latter were not complete,the committee found that the Civil rights mentioned in the bill didn't gave a clear cut view or explanation of their marital rights which are very much Part of the civil rights. So to give a proper recognition to their marriage the steps also been taken which is a very proud thing for all of us. When God didn't discriminated while making all of us who are we to judge them. We re only humans and to respect other himan and his rights is Humanity. Rights not only include the sentences written in some clauses or articles but also the respect to be given to their choices... No matter who one is and what its identity. All What I want to say is there was a time when no one of us even think about them or this topic earlier but if today we are talking about this,the community which is very much exploited and deprived of their rights that means Change is coming and e shoukd welcome the change and why we can't imagine about the love thing between them. As we said they too are humans and if I'm not wrong Humans have feelings and emotions. In our Political Science we studied Humans are social animals. So to being with Society to be part of it every talk every discussion is their desire too. All what i want to say is If we are neglecting their emotions,choices,feelings then sorry to say but then the rights are of no use The recent news that in One of our states a Transgender candidate stood up for legislative assembky elections and it is a sign of progress and towards change. And i'm in full support of it. They dhould be given each amd every Right which U,Me and every human enjoys and should get.

BANG ON...
Thank you so much for writing all these...

BTW Are you web from twitter??

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