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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: NeerajFan

Dostooo... lets put an end to this now... LOL... I guess boring track of Preeto is better than this argument. 😉 . MOREEVER in argument... all persons want to win but unfortunately no one is the looser. so lets get back to serial...


Not all persons of even same team can have same opinions (best example being Dhoni and Sehwag Gambhir 😃 ).. so lets accept each others views gracefully and put an end to this...

Love You all now... and hope this is not discussed further... a genuine appeal to You all... lets all be in good terms now... those who feel Preeto is not doing good are also champs ... and those who agree to what she did are too champs ... now its OVERRR



Sorry Neeraj... we are also not going to close this topic... we are also going to post our comments soon on this... this is an important discussion and we don't think that it can be ignored... And I dont think anyone is arguing here... we are all discussing... and putting forth different points of view...

So wait for our response... and it is going to be a very long one!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22
Firstly Thanks Priya for this post and raising this imp issue... The discussion that has followed is both interesting and shocking for us...So we are also going to put in our two pence bits (well more than two pence!) 😊
At the onset let us state a few things :
1. This is just our point of view and we are not judging anyone's opinion.
2. No offence meant, so we apologise in advance for any hurt we may cause with our words; but we are completely non-apologetic about our views. We strongly believe in them and we state them strongly.
3. We are not commenting on whether this was the right step for Preeto to take or not - that is a separate discussion.
4. Neither are we going to comment on whether the CVs should have taken this route or not. That is a question that can never be answered... a story can move in many directions and we maintain that it is the prerogative of the story teller, and we don't judge that path or decision.
5. We respect traditions and culture and values.

What we want to comment on is what was the main theme of
priya's post : marriage and its sanctity. We really do value the institution of marriage and at no stage do we take it lightly.

We are asking why should Preeto marry Sunny for real
because she faked marriage with him?

We are not here to comment on her decision to fake her marriage, so for the sake of this discussion if we assume that she made a mistake by faking it... should she now make another mistake of being in a compromised marriage to cover up her initial mistake?
We are talking about the sanctity of marriage? How about the sanctity of Love?
For us this is equal to saying that the discipline of the temple is greater than the devotion
to God. So, a person who goes with his head uncovered to the mandir is disturbing the sanctity of the mandir, doesnt matter that his devotion and dialogue with God may be purer than the devotion of those who go with covered heads...?

Some viewers have said that she has stayed in the same room as sunny and hence now her chastity and purity will be questioned and hence she should now formalise this 'living in the same room'... BTW who has the right to question the so called purity of a woman???
In our radical view- no one.
But ok for this discussion we take a moderate view and we say that may be Rajbeer can question this... and do you really think that he is going to question? Do you think his trust on her is so fickle? And who is the society to question her chastity when her love, her husband Rajbeer will not question it and her own family and her parents wont question it?
Does Preeto need the certification from everyone?
Those who want to question her chastity can question the night she spent with Rajbeer at the dhaba...
Another point in this, btw... how about the same question for sunny? Why have we not asked that the girl who marries sunny later and her family, they can question his 'virginity' as well as he was also behind locked doors with a girl for many nights.

Another point that has been raised is that the society will question the family and it will affect the izzat and all that. We ask you what is izzat?
You are only answerable to your own self and to your God. The greatest test is - can you look yourself and your God in the eye.
The others may judge you based on their own context and understanding... they are entitled to their judgement... but should their judgement be the basis of your decision? In our books this is called fearful living... when you do things out of fear... fear of 'punishment' makes you do things... Society ko kya jawab denge toh sabse sad reason hoga kisi bhi decision ko lene ke liye...

At no stage are we questioning the sanctity of marriage but we are questioning that what disturbs its sanctity?
How can something that is so sacred and respectful be so fickle to have its foundation shaken by something like this? What should be the basis of this most sacred relationship?
What makes marriage sacred? That it is based on something sacred - love, or that it is an institution made to discpline the animal kingdom?

Preeto ne sunny se hui shaadi ke baare mein jhoot bola. We are shunning this lie. And now we want her to lie to her own self??? We want her to not pay attention to the truth of her own heart? That she loves Rajbeer... Which would be a bigger lie???
Preeto ne ek nahi bahut se jhoot bole hain... kuch jhoot bolke kuch sach chupa ke... magar yeh sab usne is "Maya" = duniyadari ki space mein bole hain... ek Jhoot usne apne andar bola hai... Apne "mool" se bola hai... her true core... That she loves Rajbeer and she cannot be true to anyone but Rajbeer because her soul belongs to him... Humne Preeto ke iss "Maya" ke jhoot ko itna bura kaha hai... Rabb toh humare "Mool" ko dekhta hai... Ab iss fake shaadi ko asli karke kya hum Preeto se uske "Mool" mein jhoot bolne ko nahi keh rahe??? Kya aatma ka jhoot zubaan ke jhoot se bada nahi hota hai? agar samaj ka kaam hai hume sahi raah dikhana toh kya samajh ko uss jhoot ko nahi nakarna chahiye? Hume Maya ke liye jeena hai ya Mool ke liye?

Hum aap sabse poonchte hain : Paap kya hai??? aur Sabse bada paap kya hai??

Edited by hamsafar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angleicq

Ahlem... I sorry i strongly disagree with you in this ... if by physically having kids only way to bring motherhoodness then we will not have seen people like Mother Theresa, who devoted whole her lifes to welfare of children.
by the way I do have kids (2 girls and a boy )😉



Thank you for your reply..I hope to you and all your family all the happiness...😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My last reply..it is my opinion can make mistake..and my speech can be wrong or true..
I hope I am not hurt someone...and this things change from country to other and from situation to other...I like to share with you my opinion...
and thee is simple thing yes like what you say...marriage and do not live with your family..but do not live together without marriage..and with the okay of parents...and sur I do not know what is your situation.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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riginally posted by anasuya43

Angleicq

Do not take it seriously This is only discussion sake.I want to know how younger generation (sorry ) feels about it.(The viewers in the IF are young and middle age that is the reason I want to know their viewers)

This will help my Preeto Research😉
originally posted by Angleicq

ah good , I thought you might have got offended by my comments, My appology if it did, I am in my late thirties, strong believer of truthfulness and unconditional love and not to hurt anyone by my words, thoughts or actions.
I would loved to have goodness of our culture and custom and leave the things that hold you back, I believe that by lieing if it can bring goodness( not materials) i will do so. Therefore able to understand preeto's that stand point ;-)

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Angleicq please do not get offended I am very progrssive woman.I do not have strong views.My intention was to know how young generation people will think? (Though you have three kids you also come into YG 😉 I have three grown up children😛 )
I am a most practical person .😊

Even i believe in simple life ,do good to others.keep our culture and custom little bit because our next generation will learn atleast something from us.

lastly You can discuss freely in this forums and express your viewers (like hamsafar)😛 we will come to know not only about the Preeto serial but what is going on in and around the world.

PS I like your post and discussion😆



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Posted: 13 years ago
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An other point is in the life there is many point of view. Any person have his point of view...but we should know how to live with cohabit and accept the opinion of the others...because different point of views of peoples..it is richer to the world. if we are all have the same way of thinking..it is poverty to the world...it is good thing that we have many ideas and many way of thinking.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am sorry If I wrote a lot...if you went to change your country not with this way...I remember one story here.
someone went to make change is his country..he trying but he found that so hard..so he take decision to change only his neighborhood. he trying but he found that so hard..so he take decision to change himself..and he found that so hard but he tried and finaly he success to change him self..so his neighborhood begin to change..and his country change.
If you went to change your self you need to learn and read many books there is important things should you know..in this way I remeber a wisdom: do not dream depending on your abilities and skills but think on your abilities and skills to your dreams ( to achive your dreams ).
I read in a book the society which do not develop, threatened with extinction
and in life there is person who you choose in your life..but there is person who god choose in your life.
Edited by Ahlem - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post guys! I feel that this show has already lost da realism dat it portrayed earlier on in da show wiv dis whole FM plava. To be honest we live in a selfish world where people fink only bwt dem selves. No one in da 21st century would be willing to carry a FM just for da sake of der sister. It is not real! Since da realism is faded away it doesnt make sense to me to have preeto go on to marry Sunny. Com on people we r forgetting dis is serial. Why should preeto be willingly to be tied in a relationship where she herself is aware dat it wont be a compatiable one. Yes through this FM sunny and preeto have becum close friends but would preeto be able to see sunny more den a friend? I highly doubt it. Sunny and preeto r both aware of da fact dat preeto wont be able to forget rajbeer and da fact dat rajbeer does go on to marry simran it is highly likely dt dey will see more of each other thus their intention of moving on would not be accomplished. Such are da situations in dis show that the right decison would and should be to reunite rajpreet!😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: neha fan1

Great post guys! I feel that this show has already lost da realism dat it portrayed earlier on in da show wiv dis whole FM plava. To be honest we live in a selfish world where people fink only bwt dem selves. No one in da 21st century would be willing to carry a FM just for da sake of der sister. It is not real! Since da realism is faded away it doesnt make sense to me to have preeto go on to marry Sunny. Com on people we r forgetting dis is serial. Why should preeto be willingly to be tied in a relationship where she herself is aware dat it wont be a compatiable one. Yes through this FM sunny and preeto have becum close friends but would preeto be able to see sunny more den a friend? I highly doubt it. Sunny and preeto r both aware of da fact dat preeto wont be able to forget rajbeer and da fact dat rajbeer does go on to marry simran it is highly likely dt dey will see more of each other thus their intention of moving on would not be accomplished. Such are da situations in dis show that the right decison would and should be to reunite rajpreet!😃

Agree with you 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#30
Hi all,
Thank you all for great response, I think it was all a healthy argument, which is needed to go deeper understanding of the life it self, I do certainly understand that it is just a serial, However media has evloved to play a vital roll in everyone life, so why not use it to think out of the box.
The questions that hamsafar has asked are the questions we must ask ourself .
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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