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Posted: 14 years ago
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Just wanted to say this.

I don't think much of Inder and Panna's attitude vis a vis their father. I found it difficult to watch yesterday that they went to Easwar's place and started attacking him in tandem.

Don't get me wrong - they are right to feel bad, feel abandoned, feel resentful, be angry with him but UPTO A POINT. But beyond that, if you look at the big picture, How can you expect someone to do something that they don't want to do? If Easwar had stayed on, miserable and frustrated every second of his life, would he have been a good father? No. He would have been an angry, resentful man and a sour influence.

Left to himself, he might have pursued his life but kept in touch with his children. It was Dadaji's decision to cut Easwar off entirely. And Easwar has suffered as a result of this decision. he has been cut off from his children, brother, extended family, mother. These are not light losses.
Now that Easwar has come back, I'm not saying they should welcome him with open arms but as adults I feel there should be some understanding that maybe this man had different needs.

Sailaja is the first to admit that she was not the kind of wife Easwar wanted - her priorities were always different, always family oriented. It is a very mature attitude, so I don't get why these two are so bitter?

Nobody gets everything - life is an uneven that way when it comes to dealing out cards.
Kabhi kisi ko mukkamal jahan nahin milta
Kahin zamin to kahin aasmaan nahin milta


If they didn't know their father, they had a very loving and supportive family to grow up in. They are happy, cheerful people, so why start berating and heaping abuse on a man who chased his dreams? Yes, he was irresposible, he sought his own pleasure at the cost of his duties but can you make someone stay against their will? Is that right? Love is love when it is given, not when it is demanded and wrested by force!

Also, I don't understand why they are judging their mother for meeting a man who was once her husband?
One, she could be meeting him for a variety of reasons - for closure, out of compassion, from guilt for having deprived him of his family for years, for some remnant of a former duty, and maybe even out of curiousity?
Two, it's her call. If she feels like forgiving him, it's her business. Sailaja understands better than anyone else why her husband left. I don't see why the whole family, including Dadaji should be judging Sailaja for reacting without anger or bearing a grudge.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#2

Originally posted by: soapbubble

Just wanted to say this.

I don't think much of Inder and Panna's attitude vis a vis their father. I found it difficult to watch yesterday that they went to Easwar's place and started attacking him in tandem.

Don't get me wrong - they are right to feel bad, feel abandoned, feel resentful, be angry with him but UPTO A POINT. But beyond that, if you look at the big picture, How can you expect someone to do something that they don't want to do? If Easwar had stayed on, miserable and frustrated every second of his life, would he have been a good father? No. He would have been an angry, resentful man and a sour influence.

Left to himself, he might have pursued his life but kept in touch with his children. It was Dadaji's decision to cut Easwar off entirely. And Easwar has suffered as a result of this decision. he has been cut off from his children, brother, extended family, mother. These are not light losses.
Now that Easwar has come back, I'm not saying they should welcome him with open arms but as adults I feel there should be some understanding that maybe this man had different needs.

Sailaja is the first to admit that she was not the kind of wife Easwar wanted - her priorities were always different, always family oriented. It is a very mature attitude, so I don't get why these two are so bitter?

Nobody gets everything - life is an uneven that way when it comes to dealing out cards.
Kabhi kisi ko mukkamal jahan nahin milta
Kahin zamin to kahin aasmaan nahin milta


If they didn't know their father, they had a very loving and supportive family to grow up in. They are happy, cheerful people, so why start berating and heaping abuse on a man who chased his dreams? Yes, he was irresposible, he sought his own pleasure at the cost of his duties but can you make someone stay against their will? Is that right? Love is love when it is given, not when it is demanded and wrested by force!

Also, I don't understand why they are judging their mother for meeting a man who was once her husband?
One, she could be meeting him for a variety of reasons - for closure, out of compassion, from guilt for having deprived him of his family for years, for some remnant of a former duty, and maybe even out of curiousity?
Two, it's her call. If she feels like forgiving him, it's her business. Sailaja understands better than anyone else why her husband left. I don't see why the whole family, including Dadaji should be judging Sailaja for reacting without anger or bearing a grudge.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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After reading your post I am thinking like , if we all think about our own self then this world be even worst then it is now. When you have children you have responsibility towards them and NOBODY can STOP you to fulfil your responsibilty wether it's financial or moral or physical Mr.Kyshap would have easily gained the custody of his children and kept them with him to states , but no hd didn't , what Panna and Inder said to Mr.Kyshap was justified as he may be there biological father but he was never there so Mr.Kyshsp has no right over them, it's Inder and Panna,s turn to think about there life and there wishes. As far as Shailijah is concerned she went there as a good human being not as a wife, she is a person at the end of the day which Mr. Kyshap didn't wanted he gave her up and hd can not except her back she is not a piece of property or furniture which could be bought or claimed again. Respect your opinion but definetly do not agree with it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I could not disagree with you more. If Eshwar really was miserable and wanted a different life style then why did he marry BM in first place. He saw her and knew she wasnt his type so why marry in first place and even if he did marry her then why have kids when you dont want them and you dont want to stick with them. If we go by your suggestion then it is ok for all parents to abandon their kids if they feel miserable and go and have another life and enjoy it. When you have kids it is your responsibility to raise them and be with them.

And Dadaji was not their parents so there was no way that he could have lawfully stopped Eshwar from seeing his kids. If he wanted to be a parent believe me he could have gone to court or find some way, so that is a lame excuse.

You get life once and thats why before getting married and having kids you have think and really know for sure whether that is what you want or not. Plus the only reason Eshwar is back now is because his wife kicked him out and his other kids left him. So yah it makes full sense for panna and Inder to go and tell him off. Eshwar was motivated enough to go get a job abroad make a name for himself and start another life but he was not capable of getting past his father to see and be a parent to his children. That probably shows that he did not try hard enough. Yes it is not good to stay in a marriage that you are miserable and not happy in but running away is not the solution. He should have explained to his father and wife and divorced her first and then go and start his new life. But still be a parent to your children.

As when it comes to BM, she shouldnt be questioned or stopped from seeing anyone she wants. But i still dont get why she is married to a loser like Eshwar she should have divorced him long ago. What kind of example is she setting up for her kids and the future generations. Her husband left her and instead of leaving him and his family and starting a new life she stayed at his house and his family. As much they love her it is clear that Dadi wants to see her son and lover him more that her. And it wont take long for others to forgive him too. I just cant respect or understand BM for staying there for that long. They always portray her as a strong woman then why didnt she just start her new life on her own instead of depending on her in laws.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with you that panna- Inder are rude with his dad.. But they have that right..

Eeswar didn't leave shailaja with indifferences.. but HE left his wife for another women...

When first Eswar leaving to USA, its whole family, shailaja suported him, he went US and told him he will bring them back to US.. But returned from USA after 5 years..

That time also he never spoke to his wife, he love someone elese... but left to US leaving his wife and children...

I don't think one can live so many days without a family...But Eswar didn't think of his children and wife...He is Selfish MAN.. When you get married due to differences you have right to get divorce.. But when you are parent, you have to think of your children and then later your happiness..

Eeswar though of his happiness only... He NEVER once thought of his children... There in home town.. his wife and children are waiting for him ... thinking that their dad will come, and take them to US... but what they got is HIS Father's letter... I have no feelings for you Shailaja.. I get married to meera...

Inder-panna got the most painful days from then... How badly they wanted their dad, but what the pain they suffered is undescribable. Father's responsibilty of taking care of children education an well-being is taken by dadaji & alok..

They are the one who took care of Panaa & Inder... How much inder and panna felt pain in every day life, right from his school days, college, getting job, getting married, becoming a parent... Eswar was not there in these moments...

Panna and inder have suffered 20 years of the pain and only enjoyed a few years with his father.. How can they remember that Eeswar is his father.. What he did for them ?? Nothing ...But given pain to his mother and them..

Dadaji felt bad, as even though he told him NO ONE would talk to him, but later dadaji has asked shailaja, her opinion.. That time Shailaja told wherever dadaji decides is her decision...

But now when dadaji comes to know BM meeting BP..he felt bad, as she went behind his back, not once but thrice.. Didn't inform him at once...

Inder asked her mother, why she met his dad, not once but thrice... The MAN who left her and family in the middle and enjoyed his life..

Inder has right to ask it, as not only BM, but Inder and panna also suffered the most, because of their dad...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: venture

After reading your post I am thinking like , if we all think about our own self then this world be even worst then it is now. When you have children you have responsibility towards them and NOBODY can STOP you to fulfil your responsibilty wether it's financial or moral or physical Mr.Kyshap would have easily gained the custody of his children and kept them with him to states , but no hd didn't , what Panna and Inder said to Mr.Kyshap was justified as he may be there biological father but he was never there so Mr.Kyshsp has no right over them, it's Inder and Panna,s turn to think about there life and there wishes. As far as Shailijah is concerned she went there as a good human being not as a wife, she is a person at the end of the day which Mr. Kyshap didn't wanted he gave her up and hd can not except her back she is not a piece of property or furniture which could be bought or claimed again. Respect your opinion but definetly do not agree with it.

Agree with u
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I see all the points of view outlined here and they all have merit.

Just to elaborate: Easwar was selfish and irresponsible - there is no question on that score. Also now at this late stage, after having had his fun, he is waltzing in trying to get back to where he was. No denying his lack of principles at all.

My issue is with Inder and Panna's attitude only. On the basis of the funda that you can't help the life that happens to you but you CAN choose how you take it. Of course, they got a raw deal, of course, they missed their father through their growing years but look around us and we'll see a thousand such cases. Parents leaving, or being around and neglecting, being cruel, or dying. Bitterness and resentment ultimately hurts us the most, not the other party. Our best revenge is to live well, isn't it?

Just from the way they cornered Easwar and berated him, I felt disappointed at their maturity level. Panna was far more measured with Raunak, I think.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i have a question regarding the family's attitude towards Eshwar. I think that the entire family, rightly so, is more angry at eshwar for leaving Badi Ma, rather than for leaving them...so i wonder if the biggest block against eshwar coming back into the kashyap fold is Badi Ma's presence there?
i.e. Would the family have accepted him back, after some time, if badi ma wasn't there? Because i def can't imagine these two existing under the same roof.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I dont think Rannak's case is similar to Ishwar though it appears the same. Raunak might have walked off out of his own free will but his return got delayed against his wishes. Plus Ishwar has spent a lifetime apart from BM and her kids. Nothing he does will give them back all those years. Even when he came back it was because he had no one to turn to thats when he remembered his original family.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think their attitude is understandable because when your father leaves your mother for another woman I'd be the same I'd never want to speak to my dad. (Thankfully to God it's not like that LOL) They have the right to but yeah I guess it was a little tooo harsh but I dont blame them

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