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Posted: 14 years ago
#11
wooow.....wonderful posts by everybody............bt i feel.............out of the two....nobody is 100% right or 100% wrong.............they both hv done wrong n right things at diff times.........both of them r nt less.......though suhana hs been the most out-spoken one.....ishaan hs alwaz hidden things in his heart.......n nw the tym hs cm...wen they really sit out....n talk..........or fight out....argue.......jus blast off at each other....n say everything wht they hv been hiding frm soo long......both of them r gona regret...as each one hs hurted the other in some or the other way......Ishaan ws upset earlier....bcz suhana went ga-ga over sid.....she used 2 search Sid in ishaan.............n nw suhana is upset....of the close proximity...the comfort level betwn sona n ishaan...basically Ishaan prob is tht hes a bit shy...hes an introvert wen it cms 2 expressing his feelings............n whras suhana......being out-spoken....is a A BIG TYM TUBELIGHT...yaa...seriously...............i remember.....hw suhana used 2 say 2 ishaan wen she broke off wid sid----"hw cn u understnd the pain m goin thru.....tumhe kabhi pyaar thodi na hua hai..."......if at tht tym had ishaan showed some courage n told her hw much he loves her......i guess she wud moved on wid him happily..........bt NAHI...........he didnt say nething............which ultimately resulted in dis fiasco......the REALISATION POINT HS cm for both of them.......n they r gona sort out their differences soon..............n CONFESS HW MUCH THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.......😊😊😊😊😊😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: netri

Funny u said that , Most sensible person in this chaos is Meena Kumari. 😆 really she talks more sense than all of them put to gather.

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Posted: 14 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: venture

Neel_ jay the things highlighted in red is NOT my view but quite a lot of posts are pointing that, my views are the ones what you wrote😆😆

Oh my!! 😳 😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Shwets1502


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suhana said she has hurted ishaan a lot too...
did she say that to him..did she say how much she has hurt her father to her father....
how will people know when one does not show realisation....she need not say sorry...but shpw her regret,,,,
how will ishaan know she regrets about hurting him also....
we cannot expect ishaan to always inspect suhana...when he knows how suhana feels about him...she has to tell him...
and did suhana work hard on their relationship(husband-wife)....???
she made chicken dumplings just as a gratitude as ishaan brought her that doll...as he did something she too wanted to do something....did she say she made it for him...he understood...but did she say????

about ishaan....he has been chipking with sona a lot...and thats totally wrong...
but he din realise it...
when suhana went to meet sid again...did we think she is going back to him...no..but she going was not right...but she had no other intention...ishaan was upset and he has voiced out several times about sid,,,,

now when ishaan is chipking...he has no other intention and he is not realising his mistake...
suhana is upset and its time she voices out...

this future track is the perfect ending for a stupid track...
iam not for the sona track at all...
but whats going to happen will be perfect i guess...may be the only thing right in the track....

nice post....i loved your take on what could have happened....


It's not always about "saying". In a relationship, things are often left unsaid. But that doesn't mean that people should stick to the point that he didn't say this or she didn't say this! If it's about saying then even Ishan never told Suhana that he loved her. If he had, her attitude towards him would immediately have changed. She would have started seeing him as a life partner in the true sense, much sooner.
Suhana also didn't say a lot of things. But she did tell him that she would never leave the house. And more than any words spoken, Suhana did work very hard to change herself. Remember the AC time? She kept saying "no problem, I will adjust". Suhana has transformed herself to fit into Ishan's family. She tries hard to be a good bahu and when BM made her realise gently and tactfully, she also realised that she should try harder to be a good wife as well. The dumplings were not just a return gift, Suhana did that because BM made her realise that people do little things to please each other in any relationship and that these things make the relationship stronger.
Yes, Suhana had made mistakes initially and I had been very angry with her then but if you want to work on a relationship, you can not keep a score and say - she made mistakes in the past so I can also make some now. See, I don't have a problem with Ishan being imperfect and making mistakes. My problem is that the whole family behaves like Ishan is perfect and never acknowledges or tries to rectify when he is wrong. Ishan has a right to be human and make mistakes, yes, but he needs to realise his mistakes and regret them in his heart to gain my respect! Suhana did that so I adore her. But Ishan doesn't and so I continue to be mad at him!!
I have watched OBS and nobody in that family realised that Ishan's behavior wrt Suhana was wrong. I had hoped SGP would rectify that mistake but I don't see that happening..
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Posted: 14 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: neel_jay

I don't agree with some of your points.
#1 I agree that Suhana had hurt Ishan initially but in time, she had realised it as well. I also remember one episode after Sid's truth was revealed in front of her when Ishan had voiced out his hurt to her and had made her realise how she had hurt him when they first got married.
In any relationship, if a person makes a mistake, but later realises it and works hard to change themselves, you can not then keep blaming them and holding them accountable for the old mistake! You have to forgive and forget and move ahead, otherwise the relationship can never be successful.
#2 Sonali's behavior was not at all justified and on the contrary, I found it shameful! WHO is she to ask such a question to Suhana? Who is she to butt in their lives and humiliate Suhana like this? And how the hell does she feel justified to ask Suhana about the status of her marriage when she, Sona, herself has been behaving SOOOO inappropriately with Suhana's husband!! You can not forget Sona constantly throwing herself physically at Ishan! She should not have chosen THAT method to make Suhana jealous!
#3 Suhana needed a wake up call yes, but badi ma was effectively doing in that with her other little ways, without hurting Suhana's feelings. Remember how tactfully BM made Suhana realise that she should also do things to please Ishan (and the result was the chicken dumplings)? Suhana could have been made to realise things just like this..gently, lovingly, kindly.. There was no need to humiliate her and break her heart.
And at the end of this, everyone except Ishan will be able to say - we did this to make you realise. But what justification can Ishan give for HIS behaviour? He was not a part of the plan? Why did he behave so inappropriately with another girl?



I agree with each and every point of yours. Even though Suhana did like Sid, she never became so touchy-feely with him. She always maintained a distance. Its a shame Ishaan has forgotten that.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: reniji66

I have said before shame on BM for what she has done, especially after her situation and all. I hope Suhanna serves Ishaan, the duffer, with divorce papers and then he realizes he was inappropriate with Sona. He hasn't done anything sensible in months. He is an absolute jerk and if Suhanna was all over another man like that he would be completely shattered. Indian serials always show the woman suffering and the typical double standard for men. Honestly, let a man hug on Suhanna that way and the whole family would flip out, be it a childhood friend or not. I used to like this show, but its decisions and storyline lately have changed that. Lets face it, Ishaan is no prize to begin with. But atleast when he was sweet and innocent and we knew he loved Suhanna even though she didn't, we were in his corner. Now I wish she would leave and stay gone and make him start all over again. I understand those of you who say Suhanna didn't treat him well, but she never gave him any hopes otherwise. He knew she didn't love him and he never said he loved her. Suhanna is innocent and just didn't get a lot about marriage. Her father spoiled her like a kid and then married her off before she understood what being a wife and loving someone truly meant.

And here at the end of my rant I say again, shame, shame BM you have done the worst to Suhanna. You know the heartbreak of a loved one leaving and you and your stupid plan drove Suhann, not into Ishaan's arms, but out of his house. Suhanna stay at your Maayka until your husband understands how to treat you. And please, please Sona get out of that house and as far away from our TVs as you possibly can. And for that young actress who plays Sona, please make your next roll a positive one. We have seen you break up two tv marriages as of late; you need a new avatar! And you are such a good actress and cute girl, get a tv man of your own and stop stealing others' husbands!!!!!!

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Awesome post! It was so nice reading your comments. You said everything I wanted to, and very beautifully so! I agree with you - even Suhana's dad didn't do justice with her. Even when he married Suhana to Ishan, I remember discussing with my mom how wrong Suhana's dad was!
I mean, either he should not have raised her as a spoilt brat, or, if he did raise her that way, then he should have found a groom of her liking and a family where she could adjust more easily.
Agreed that in hindsight, Kashyap family was good for Suhana because they filled her life with love. But Suhana's dad didn't prepare her for such a life first. He thrust her on the hot sand of the Thar desert without training her like a soldier and then expected her to fight and win the battle!
FYI, the above comparison is inspired from Mughal-e-azam. I can never forget the dialogue when Akbar ordered his men for Jahangeer - "Chhod do isse registaan ki tapti ret pe, behne do isska lahu.... etc, etc" My parents had an audio cassette of this and I was barely 2-3 yrs old but my dad used to listen to the cassette a lot and somehow, the dialogue made a lot of impact on my young mind! 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Garima_04

wooow.....wonderful posts by everybody............bt i feel.............out of the two....nobody is 100% right or 100% wrong.............they both hv done wrong n right things at diff times.........both of them r nt less.......though suhana hs been the most out-spoken one.....ishaan hs alwaz hidden things in his heart.......n nw the tym hs cm...wen they really sit out....n talk..........or fight out....argue.......jus blast off at each other....n say everything wht they hv been hiding frm soo long......both of them r gona regret...as each one hs hurted the other in some or the other way......Ishaan ws upset earlier....bcz suhana went ga-ga over sid.....she used 2 search Sid in ishaan.............n nw suhana is upset....of the close proximity...the comfort level betwn sona n ishaan...basically Ishaan prob is tht hes a bit shy...hes an introvert wen it cms 2 expressing his feelings............n whras suhana......being out-spoken....is a A BIG TYM TUBELIGHT...yaa...seriously...............i remember.....hw suhana used 2 say 2 ishaan wen she broke off wid sid----"hw cn u understnd the pain m goin thru.....tumhe kabhi pyaar thodi na hua hai..."......if at tht tym had ishaan showed some courage n told her hw much he loves her......i guess she wud moved on wid him happily..........bt NAHI...........he didnt say nething............which ultimately resulted in dis fiasco......the REALISATION POINT HS cm for both of them.......n they r gona sort out their differences soon..............n CONFESS HW MUCH THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.......😊😊😊😊😊😊

Tumhare muh mein ghee shakkar, Garima! The problem is that they will do the yelling and the confessing, but Ishan or his family is not going to realise or acknowledge that Ishan's behaviour was shameful!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: mjtruelegend


I agree with each and every point of yours. Even though Suhana did like Sid, she never became so touchy-feely with him. She always maintained a distance. Its a shame Ishaan has forgotten that.

Thank you dear!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: neel_jay

It's not always about "saying". In a relationship, things are often left unsaid. But that doesn't mean that people should stick to the point that he didn't say this or she didn't say this! If it's about saying then even Ishan never told Suhana that he loved her. If he had, her attitude towards him would immediately have changed. She would have started seeing him as a life partner in the true sense, much sooner.
Suhana also didn't say a lot of things. But she did tell him that she would never leave the house. And more than any words spoken, Suhana did work very hard to change herself. Remember the AC time? She kept saying "no problem, I will adjust". Suhana has transformed herself to fit into Ishan's family. She tries hard to be a good bahu and when BM made her realise gently and tactfully, she also realised that she should try harder to be a good wife as well. The dumplings were not just a return gift, Suhana did that because BM made her realise that people do little things to please each other in any relationship and that these things make the relationship stronger.
Yes, Suhana had made mistakes initially and I had been very angry with her then but if you want to work on a relationship, you can not keep a score and say - she made mistakes in the past so I can also make some now. See, I don't have a problem with Ishan being imperfect and making mistakes. My problem is that the whole family behaves like Ishan is perfect and never acknowledges or tries to rectify when he is wrong. Ishan has a right to be human and make mistakes, yes, but he needs to realise his mistakes and regret them in his heart to gain my respect! Suhana did that so I adore her. But Ishan doesn't and so I continue to be mad at him!!
I have watched OBS and nobody in that family realised that Ishan's behavior wrt Suhana was wrong. I had hoped SGP would rectify that mistake but I don't see that happening..



Thats exactly what I wanted to say and I also wanted SGP to do things differently than OBS because their treatment of this whole situation was poor, whether its Ishaan or the whole family's attidtude. Its a shame such a respectful family who stand for good values and morals are turning a blind eye in when its so obvious. I can undestand Sona being OTT in front of Suhana but why did she continue to behave like that even when she's not there??? That doesn't make sense to me. If she doesn like what she's doing then she would surely not do it when Suhana was not there. Right?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: mjtruelegend


Thats exactly what I wanted to say and I also wanted SGP to do things differently than OBS because their treatment of this whole situation was poor, whether its Ishaan or the whole family's attidtude. Its a shame such a respectful family who stand for good values and morals are turning a blind eye in when its so obvious. I can undestand Sona being OTT in front of Suhana but why did she continue to behave like that even when she's not there??? That doesn't make sense to me. If she doesn like what she's doing then she would surely not do it when Suhana was not there. Right?

See the underlined - 👏 Awesome point!!
And that leads me to believe that in this plan, somewhere deep, Sona has fallen for Ishan. She may not even have realised or admitted it to herself yet but the feelings are very much there. I have always studied in co-ed's and have seen hundreds of good friendships between boys and girls, but none of them ever behaved like Ishan and Sona did the past few weeks! Ishan and Sona completely behave like boyfriend-girlfriend and it's shameful that his family encourages it (except for Rani and Disha)!
I also believe that somewhere, Ishan also is attracted to Sona. He believes that his wife doesn't love him and he is enjoying all the attention as well as the physical intimacy with Sona. I believe that with him, it's more of a physical attraction whereas Sona has emotionally fallen for him.

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